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vabeefcake
11-24-2002, 06:37 AM
well guys, i said why not not and started my first cycle ( test/deca)as layed out in the previous post. Couple quick ?s..is there an easier way to get the damn juice into the barrell?..i keep it in thr fridge till like an hour before my injection and it just seems like its hard as hell to load the syringe (25gauge at 1.5 inch)..i really wanted to load the test and deca into the same barrell and do just one shot, but it didnt wanna work that way so i loaded 2 needles and shot em both into the glute. I know its common to feel a lil sore and i know its in me cuz there are no lumps or redness etc. i think the worst part was the anticipation cuz the needles dont hurt at all. My wife got a kick outta stabbin me actually..hehehe
second..im running 600mg test/ 450 deca weekly with the deca being split 225every 4 days..this 1st shot i also split the test to 300mg and was gonna do the 2nd 300 w/my next shot of deca. waste of time?..should i just frontload the test and stick with bi/weekly deca?
and lastly but for me important..should i maintain my regular lifting patterns?..i train 5 days on 2 off med. to heavy intensity w/ near max weight but never to failure. If this stuff makes me feel stronger should i capitolize on this feeling and work my maxes to failure? I have my own opinions basically that if i dont take advantage i may miss out on sumthing great but i dont wanna f*** myself up. Btw, musta been a coincidence but after a few hours of my 1st shot, i felt great, mood elevated etc. musta been the anticipation:)
thanx guys

Budiak
11-24-2002, 07:59 AM
You didnt inject it into your anus, did you?
Damn, must be nice to have a wife. Who doesnt mind you gearing up...or doing the shots.

vabeefcake
11-24-2002, 09:35 AM
lol.naw the anus is just fine, shes not THAT sadistic.:)
Shes very supportive of my training dude, making sure i eat plenty and she tells me when its time to go to the gym, she just asks me to call her b4 i come home..hmmmmmm

Dominator
11-24-2002, 01:19 PM
Why are you keeping it in the fridge ? Is you house toom temp over like 90 Deg. F ? I thought those little test caps where the only thing to keep cool. I warm my cattle's implants in a litle warm water before loading the pin.

Also, if you would have read Tadger's post in you first question you would be using different pinz (23g).

The only soreness I have been told by my cattle (yes its amazing my cattle can speak and they are fricken huge) is from injection speed. TAKE one minute per CC durring inj.

Tadger
11-24-2002, 02:30 PM
You should load your syringes with an 18 guage needle. When you're finished pull that off, and replace it with a nice sharp 23guage (for glutes) or 25guage (everything else). You can shoot with a 25guage 1.5 in the glutes (especially if you're wife is doin your injections. It would suck to do it yourself witha 25 guage)... but I can never find the 1.5 inchers.

Definitely load with 18s or 21s though. That'll make it so much easier... loading with a 25guage is gonna take absolutely forever, especially if you keep your gear in the fridge (which isn't necessary as Dom, stated)

He's also right... the slower you inject the better you'll feel at the end. If you're shooting a smaller volume, then 30sec/cc will do you fairly well. Generally the slower the better... especially with relatively voluminous injections.

vabeefcake
11-24-2002, 03:43 PM
cool..yeah, ill definatly keep it room temp, and slow the injection down, but as far as needles themselves, like you said , its almost impossible to find a 23ga. in 1.5 inch, thats why i got 25's, and these are single use syringes purchased at the r/x for like .25 cents each so i cant load the barrell first, unless i pull the plunger from the top, but i dont think thats wise yanno? anyways, im chalkin the butt pain( kinna like a charlie horse) up to the price ya pay:)..im looking forward to actually feeling something :)

Lizzie
11-24-2002, 04:06 PM
Just a quick observation since I work in a doctors office. What about your wifes technique in giving the injections? Do you actually know the proper way to give it or are you just stabbing yourself silly in the ass?

vabeefcake
11-24-2002, 04:18 PM
is there any other way??? lol...naw she does a great job, a good swift stick and shes in there:)

Lizzie
11-24-2002, 04:41 PM
Are you rotating sites?......stretching the skin tight before injections? injecting slowly?......no more than 3 cc can be injected into a site at one time.....only a slight draw back on the plunger is needed to see if your not in a vein. Good technique though if she hits in steady and fast.

vabeefcake
11-24-2002, 06:25 PM
rotating sites, yes
injecting slow, yes
no blood in the needles, and she hits me so fine she doesnt need to stretch, also helps its a 25 ga...shes a damn natural..lol

Tadger
11-24-2002, 11:08 PM
When I say load the syringes I mean
-put on a large diameter pin (18, 21 etc...)
-suck up the juice (all of it, sust+whatever else all in the same barrel)
-replace the needle (now put on the finer guage needles)

As for the 23guage 1.5"... those are easy to find. The 25guage 1.5" I don't see very often at all. Anyway, go to GPZ (http://templates.earthstores.com/template1082/list.asp?id=67707A7365727669636573&cat=181905) for some nice cheap pins. They're quick too. Pick up some 18s for loading, and you should be fine.

Budiak
11-25-2002, 02:41 AM
My good friend made the mistake of ordering only 25ga pins for his oil...most of his injection 'ceremony' time is spent filling the ****in syringe.