Hell Yeah Baby!!!

[Spiderman]

Hey guys, lets try and make this place "the $hit" ok? Hulk has gone to a lot of trouble, lets not fuk it up shall we.
This place is gonna rule! :D

[IBLiftin]

Beuller, Bueller, lol.....??????

Comon guys let get into the subject of gear, I KNOW there are a lot of questions you guys have so let them rip, no matter how stupid they may seem.

[Twiztid]

Ok, I have a question that will seem stupid.. but you told me to ask them! :)

What is all the talk about "side effects" of AS. Men growing breasts, shrinkage of the genatalia (sp?), voice changes.. etc, etc...

What is your defense?

Also... How hard is AS on the body. My heart murmur alone would be enough to scare me away from using AS. Hell, I am scared to even take Hydroxycut or any other ECA stacks...

Anyways.. this outta get thinks rolling, and I'll learn something out of it as well.

Twiztid

[David]

No matter how stupid they may seem, huh?

Well, alright, here goes.

1. Why does everyone call them Anabolic Steroids??? Are there other kinds of Steriods out there?

2. When Spidey goes off his cycle (assuming that he does) - does he change his name to spideyoffgear???

:confused:

[Wizard]

Ok:1)Do normal people(not bbs)really need juice?Bbs may get prizes etc but why an ordinary guy should take such a big risk?
2)Is it really a risk taking this stuff?I'm not reffering to overdoing with it but with normal dosages of roids.Who has taken roids in the past and didn't have any problems at all or who had any side effects?We need people that have tried this stuff to tell us about their experience.Looking for Cemm too.
3)Any side effects,are presented in a few weeks or in a few years?
That's for the moment guys..

[Edited by Blackalpha on 01-14-2001 at 02:47 PM]

[Twiztid]

2. When Spidey goes off his cycle (assuming that he does) - does he change his name to spideyoffgear???

hahahahahahahahahahahaha......

Twiztid

GOOD CALL!

[Cackerot69]

lol, that was funny PPP.

i'll have some gear Q's eventually.

[kAto]

hehehehe, im no pro but ive had a few cycles under my belt, if the mood should strike you, ask away.

[IBLiftin]

Originally posted by Twiztid
Ok, I have a question that will seem stupid.. but you told me to ask them! :)

What is all the talk about "side effects" of AS. Men growing breasts, shrinkage of the genatalia (sp?), voice changes.. etc, etc...

What is your defense?

Also... How hard is AS on the body. My heart murmur alone would be enough to scare me away from using AS. Hell, I am scared to even take Hydroxycut or any other ECA stacks...

Anyways.. this outta get thinks rolling, and I'll learn something out of it as well.

Twiztid


Side effects: Well lets just say there are sides to even asprin, But I have had no perminent sides, no boobs, my balls are fine, I get hard ons all the time, my voice is a hair deeper but it's not like that's all that bad. Ever notice that big guys, even fat ones, generally have deeper voices?

I wouldn't recomend using and AS if you have a heart murmur...

[IBLiftin]

Originally posted by TripleP
No matter how stupid they may seem, huh?

Well, alright, here goes.

1. Why does everyone call them Anabolic Steroids??? Are there other kinds of Steriods out there?

2. When Spidey goes off his cycle (assuming that he does) - does he change his name to spideyoffgear???

:confused:

1: There are 2 kinds of properties to gear(steroids) Anabolic and androgenic steroids. You could literally write a book on both subjects so I'm prolly not the best person to ask about them both. those are the only steroids out there, IGF-1, slin, GH, ect are not AS.

2: I guess that's up to spidey, lol.

[Short N Buff]

Yes there are other steroids. Estrogen, Vitamin D, and cholesterol are three examples on nonanabolic steroids.

[IBLiftin]

Yes but they have no use for us......

[Cackerot69]

ok, i got a Q...

i have heard that if you use steroids to go beyond your genetic potential, its impossible to keep those gains.

true or false?

[cemm]

It depends on what you mean by going beyond your genetic potential. I 'm sure I went far away beyond mine. I keep most of my gains when I cycle, but if I'm off juice for good I will lose a lot quality and muscle mass, not all of them but I'll lose a lot.

[Podium Kreatin]

I think rapid muscle atrophy from offing roids is more by atrophy of the endocrine system more than genetic potential. When ur on hormone treatment, ur body goes "hey, we're getting test! that means we don't have to make it anymore!" and when u go off, it goes "where's the test? oh well, let's wait."

[IBLiftin]

That's the reason they go on hormone therapy, because they lack test...

[cemm]

Originally posted by Blackalpha
Ok:1)Do normal people(not bbs)really need juice?Bbs may get prizes etc but why an ordinary guy should take such a big risk?
2)Is it really a risk taking this stuff?I'm not reffering to overdoing with it but with normal dosages of roids.Who has taken roids in the past and didn't have any problems at all or who had any side effects?We need people that have tried this stuff to tell us about their experience.Looking for Cemm too.
3)Any side effects,are presented in a few weeks or in a few years?
That's for the moment guys..

[Edited by Blackalpha on 01-14-2001 at 02:47 PM]

1) Normal people don't need juice if there isn't any hormone disfunction. But let me ask you something. Do normal people need alcoholl, cocaine , anphetamines, marijuana????? Hummm, I don't think so!! I really don't think people take steroids because of prizes or money, some of us do because is our profission. People take As or any other drugs because they are looking for something else in their lives, because they need more confidence, self-assurance.. whatever. Why take the risk??? Man, alcohool and others recreational drugs have killed more people in a year than any war i've known. There was a misconception created around this theme. Missinformation and lies were said about this AS subject. Unfortunaly there are doctors , "specialists" that still demonstrate their lack of knowledge about AS and other $hits.......

2) Again, is it risk to take couple of beers or smoke pot ED?? Eveything you do can be risky if you don't be careful and don't know what you doing. I lost my grandpa many years ago because the old fart wouldn't stop drinking. He died from liver cancer from drinking his arse off. Oh , that was smart, right?? Do what is necessary within the limits. Most of us now what we are talking about here. Lots of researches, reading and self test. Many of us learned the hard way. And I can tell you, we know what we are doing. I confess I take more AS than what you think is normal for you. But I have blood test and medical help everytime. So what I want to tell you is that if you take it safetly you will decrease your risks. I can't tell you if you take one amp of sust you are going to have a problem or not. I don't know, do what is necessary to keep it safe. Take your blood test, go to a doctor...Read , search and research

3) I wont ********* you , so the answer is yes. If you take mega dose of As you can have some sides. If you smoke a lot of crack you can have problems in couple weeks. Just remember why I making these comparisons. It depends how of your body reaction and how you administrate AS. I've been taking AS for 5 years straight and I haven't have any problems whatsoever. I do have a baby girl and I will have many more! So i'm OK! There are side effects, they do exist, but there is a way you can control them and avoid them. Take it in a safe way!!!

[Wizard]

You're right.Look,the problem is that the majority of people who are on juice,don't really know how to use the weapon thay have in their hands and this can be brutal in some cases.You know what you're doing and that's the reason why you don't face any problems.Do you think that everyone who takes roids spends any time to learn how to use them?Everyone is looking for the magic pill or liquid which will give him lots of self-esteem and confidence...

[cemm]

No I don't think so. Most of new guys that take AS just do whatever ones say without even know what they are taking and why!!. I know a lot of great people from this boards and from other boards that spend so many time studying and researching about As and everything related to it that you could imagine the time spent in it. There are so many information, that's why we the mods and the vets keep telling people they need to research and learn their stuff. You must know how your body reacts to everything. You're the only one who can know what's best for you by knowing yourself. We give you the paths and you decide what to do. Right info I mean....

[deadliftr20]

cemm, when u say youve been using as for 5 yrs strait, do u mean u've been on for 5 yrs or been cycling for 5 yrs....im interested in learning the health of people who stay on as year round and have done so for 5 yrs or longer.....


dl20

-nice place hulk

[cemm]

I've been cycling an bridging between the cycles. I lost count on how many cycles I've done. Well , my health is pretty good, no bad problems so far. Sometimes I get sick when I start to take sustanon, fever vomit and all that ****, but maybe is just me. I'm OK, at least is what my doctor says. I have a 16 months baby girl, so I'm still productive in that manner. I do take some time off, you know you have too. When I say I've been on As straight, it is true. Average time I rest is 4 to 6 weeks when I don't bridge. But I don't take that big amount of juice compared to some bros I know. Just light cycles though lol :)

[FrickenHuge]

Interesting cemm. I thought you had “cycled” for five years. I'm interested in learning more about bridging also but don't really see the need for me at this point in time. I've had great results with time on = time off. I've had a few conversations with guys who compete year round and am curious to learn more. If anything, so that I'm more educated on the subject.

FH

[cemm]

Well, if you do 3 to 4 shows a year you need to bridge. Time on, time off is needed too. But sometimes you won't have time to stop because of shows!!

[heathj]

*Bizump

[CB]

Originally posted by cemm


1) Normal people don't need juice if there isn't any hormone disfunction. But let me ask you something. Do normal people need alcoholl, cocaine , anphetamines, marijuana????? Hummm, I don't think so!! I really don't think people take steroids because of prizes or money, some of us do because is our profission. People take As or any other drugs because they are looking for something else in their lives, because they need more confidence, self-assurance.. whatever. Why take the risk??? Man, alcohool and others recreational drugs have killed more people in a year than any war i've known. There was a misconception created around this theme. Missinformation and lies were said about this AS subject. Unfortunaly there are doctors , "specialists" that still demonstrate their lack of knowledge about AS and other $hits.......

2) Again, is it risk to take couple of beers or smoke pot ED?? Eveything you do can be risky if you don't be careful and don't know what you doing. I lost my grandpa many years ago because the old fart wouldn't stop drinking. He died from liver cancer from drinking his arse off. Oh , that was smart, right?? Do what is necessary within the limits. Most of us now what we are talking about here. Lots of researches, reading and self test. Many of us learned the hard way. And I can tell you, we know what we are doing. I confess I take more AS than what you think is normal for you. But I have blood test and medical help everytime. So what I want to tell you is that if you take it safetly you will decrease your risks. I can't tell you if you take one amp of sust you are going to have a problem or not. I don't know, do what is necessary to keep it safe. Take your blood test, go to a doctor...Read , search and research

3) I wont ********* you , so the answer is yes. If you take mega dose of As you can have some sides. If you smoke a lot of crack you can have problems in couple weeks. Just remember why I making these comparisons. It depends how of your body reaction and how you administrate AS. I've been taking AS for 5 years straight and I haven't have any problems whatsoever. I do have a baby girl and I will have many more! So i'm OK! There are side effects, they do exist, but there is a way you can control them and avoid them. Take it in a safe way!!!

:withstupi

[Silverback]

Hey nice posts cemm,

Brazil eh :) By the sounds of things you will be pretty big got any stats?

A Ronaldo fan?

[Franco]

I very much doubt Cemm would start posting here again, he hasn't ever since he was a mod here a long long time ago.

[Silverback]

lol, i just noticed his last post was 2001!!!!!!!!!

[Budiak]

Thats got to be a record for the oldest bump.

Anyways, that is some good info. Anybody know where cemm went? He didnt have many posts but seemed to know his ****.

[Bigmofo]

Pretty good stuff on this thread, and I guess Cemm was an elite bodybuilder in his country?

[heathj]

*bows

Anyway, get on with the questions!!

What's the difference with needle size? I know there's different gauges and **** or whatever. But what's the point in using one over another? Certain ones are for drawing out the liquid and certain sizes are used for injecting, correct? Info on that would be great ;)

[Spiderman]

well ya WHORE, the lower the number on the needle size the bigger the hole is in the needle. Hence, why an 18 gauge is typically used for drawing.. the oil will draw up very easily. A higher gauge can be used to draw, but its really dificult to draw and may take a minute or two. Very annoying actually.... People use anywhere from 20, 21, 22, and 23 gauge to shoot. It really depends on personal preference. Using a 23 gauge it may take the oil a little longer to inject due to its high viscosity and passing through a very smalll space. Others use a 21 and it slides through almost as easily as an 18 gauge. Hope this answers your questions.

[heathj]

What would be the point in using a 23 gauge over an 21 gauge to inject? Just personal preference and pain tolerance? Or does the type of steroid effect which one you would use?

[Silverback]

A bit of both heath, also depends where you are injecting, e.g. a 23 in the delt would be more favourable than a 21 i think.

The med used also has a bearing with some but im not too clear spidey will have a better knowledge as ive only got knowledge on a handful of meds

[Spiderman]

Well, BR is right. Sometimes it does depend on which kind. Different kinds can be thicker and thinner. Hence my comment on viscosity. ;) A 23 gauge would feel better in the delt than a 21. Now think about using an 18 in the bicep.... uh...... wow.....

[heathj]

Yeah, obviously. Didn't even think about that...Thanks :)

Any other questions? C'mon people.

[Silverback]

Ive got a question, what is the difference between someone who has naturally high test levels and those who administer test by injection?

I dont see any problems other than the fact that your system could react a badly too it e.g. toilet touble :)

Could someone enlighten me?

cheers

[smalls]

Heath, also a smaller needle=less scar tissue and slower injection which are both good things.

I dont see how people can inject with 20's those things are huge.

[heathj]

Ron...the only thing I can think of is that one person's test is natural and the other is injected. So when the injection occurs, the body stops producing...while the naturally high testosterone person's body keeps producing, thus creating no crash of weight movement after the cycle, since it won't end...? Is that what you mean, or...

[Silverback]

yeah,

i see your angle and tbh honest didnt think about it like that

cheers for the responce