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[Gyno Rhino]

Mods,
If you delete a thread or a post, how about PMing the person whose post you deleted and letting them know why you did? I posted a fun little thread over on training that magically disappeared. Why, may I ask?

[Tryska]

I removed it for two reasons:


a. the whole "rice boy" thing is racially offensive.

b. the topic might have been better served being posted in General Chat (if it hadn't have been derogartory), since it didn't pertain to Training Technique specifically.

Apologies for not PM'ing you, i thought you had gotten a chance to see my responses to your post already.

[Belial]

Originally posted by Tryska
...is racially offensive.



Kee-rist.

WBB going PC? Crap.

*leaves*

[Tryska]

*lol*

yup...and no cruelty to animals either!


and no nudity!

flaming homosexuality is ok..but only in General Chat. tuttut

[Chris Rodgers]

WTF is wrong with nudity?? Damn censorship!! :mad:

[Belial]

Originally posted by Tryska
*lol*

yup...and no cruelty to animals either!


and no nudity!


*Strips naked*

*Runs around hitting the dog with a tennis racket*

[Gyno Rhino]

Calling a car a "rice-rocket" means it's Japanese. Calling someone a "rice-boy" means that they like Japanese cars. It's an accepted term. It doesn't mean they are Japanese, it means they like Japanese cars. I didn't see your reply, because the thread was deleted. The thread was about people training. I don't see why it didn't fit the training board. I sure hope you are going to be a moderator and not a dictator. That ruins many boards. Make sure you know what you're talking about when you accuse someone of making a racist statement. I sure hope my children could log on to a board and see people talking about homosexuals and blasting people in the face with.. Well, stuff. And all that nonsense. But I guess that's okay, huh? And yes, this reply does belong in a PM, but since we don't use PMs around here, I figured I'd throw it in the chat.

[Sinep]

Chig, I think that means you better dress up and quick! :eek:

[Tryska]

Originally posted by Gyno Rhino
Calling a car a "rice-rocket" means it's Japanese. Calling someone a "rice-boy" means that they like Japanese cars. It's an accepted term. It doesn't mean they are Japanese, it means they like Japanese cars. I didn't see your reply, because the thread was deleted. The thread was about people training. I don't see why it didn't fit the training board. I sure hope you are going to be a moderator and not a dictator. That ruins many boards. Make sure you know what you're talking about when you accuse someone of making a racist statement. I sure hope my children could log on to a board and see people talking about homosexuals and blasting people in the face with.. Well, stuff. And all that nonsense. But I guess that's okay, huh? And yes, this reply does belong in a PM, but since we don't use PMs around here, I figured I'd throw it in the chat.

okay but you don't see where using "rice"-anything in reference to the japanese would be dergotaory?
:confused:

[Darcy Tucker]

I don't see why blasting homosexuals would be alright.tuttut

[Tryska]

that was a joke darcy.....:rolleyes:

but seriously....no....gay-bashing isn't cool, either.

[Mystic Eric]

Originally posted by Darcy Tucker
I don't see why blasting homosexuals would be alright.tuttut

so the truth comes out now doesn't it darcy???

ok, i've always known that hulk is a communist, but this whole board is turning 100% commy, and we're losing all of freedom of speech due to all this censoring!!!:mad:

[Pup]

Communism is evil, bad modstuttut . *slaps mods around with a large salmon, just for good measure*

[Belial]

HEY!

I feel the constant abuse of class Osteichthyes on this forum and in the chat room, most specifically those of the oncorhynchus genus (i.e., the trout and salmon) must be stopped. Though many of these fish are not as yet endangered, this may well become the case should they be used for physical abuse of humans. However, the expansion of this "fish slapping" to apparently include ALL members of the salmonidae family must be ceased IMMEDIATELY, as there can be no way to regulate which species are being used for such a purpose.

Mods, please close this thread.

[Tryska]

*roflmao*

you realize this cruelty to fish involves you as well?


i see no other alternative but to ban you from this site Belial for being a hypocrite.

No Hypocrisy allowed. tuttut

[Belial]

*slaps Tryska around a bit with a large trout*

[Sinep]

what?
*throw rock at Belial*

[Belial]

bastard!

*bleeds*

[Tryska]

Originally posted by Sinep
what?
*throw rock at Belial*

why sinep...how chivalrous of you.....:D


*hands belial a band-aid*

that should take care of the bleeding.

[chris mason]

How is calling someone a "rice boy" derogatory and "joking" about ripping homosexuals not:confused: ?

[PowerManDL]

Originally posted by chris mason
How is calling someone a "rice boy" derogatory and "joking" about ripping homosexuals not:confused: ?

Homosexual comedy is as American as apple pie. Racial comedy needs to be left to those parts of Arkansas and Mississippi where the two-tooth people can enjoy it.

At least that's my theory.

Power

[Tryska]

chris...agreed...and Hulk has already posted a thread on how he feels about that, it's up to y'all to respect it. Which for the most part y'all have.:)

[Maki Riddington]

I'm half jap and I don't really care for ignorant comments like that.

[Chris Rodgers]

Originally posted by PowerManDL


Homosexual comedy is as American as apple pie. Racial comedy needs to be left to those parts of Arkansas and Mississippi where the two-tooth people can enjoy it.

At least that's my theory.

Power


LMMFAO!!!

[Gyno Rhino]

Okay, okay.. You all have a HUGE misconception about the "riceboy" thing. It's NOT RACIAL. It is not derogatory in any way. I did not make up the statement. It's a statement used that refers to little white boys that drive Japanese cars that brag but can't back it up. I'm sorry if it offended anyone, but it certainly was not intended that way. If you search for rice boy on the net, you'll find alot of stuff. It's not racially offensive, it's used pertaining to cars. The Japanese themselves refer to their cars as rice-rockets. If you're going to blast someone about making a statement about CARS, maybe you all need to look at the posts on this board. Almost every one has someone calling someone gay and making fun of them. Is this really very nice? I guess not. And as for someone saying that making fun of gays is American.. So is black slavery, irish persecution, abuse of the chinese, etc etc. Don't label me as a racially offensive person just because you don't know **** about cars.

[heathj]

Joking about homosexual things and talking about "racially offensive" things are totally different. Gyno, get your head straight. Also, even if it isn't offensive to you or half the ****ing internet who knows "lots" about cars, it shouldn't matter. If certain people on this board ask you to not use a term that they find offensive, then you should respect that and not use it. It doesn't matter if you think it's racist or not, if they think it is, don't say it. I don't see how that is so damn hard.

[Gyno Rhino]

How the **** is joking about racial issues and sexual issues different? They're both ways of pasting a stereotype on someone and ignoring their persona in lieu of a posterboy for your hate. Why don't you get your head screwed on straight? Who taught you it was bad to make fun of someone for skin color but good to make fun of them for who they love? Why is that so damn hard, huh?

[the doc]

can you guys misspell those profanities. They're getting edited out... lol

:D

[Maki Riddington]

Race is a touchy subject. Gyno, I'm sure your intentions were proper but when race is the issue people should proceed with caution.

[Anthony]

Gyno, if someone here finds what you said offensive, then technically you should try to refrain from saying it. Remember, the politically correct have no tolerance for intolerance. Amusing, isn't it?



btw, sup keith, mah fig

[heathj]

Anthony always restates what I say :p

Gyno, when did I say that it is ok to make fun of homosexuals? I am just saying they are different. Very different. The main issue at hand is can you respect our wishes though. It seems you cannot.

[Belial]

For anyone curious:

http://www.riceboypage.com/

This guy sums up the meaning of the word pretty well. Offensive to you or not, it might be worth a read. Check out the FAQ.

[Gyno Rhino]

Look, I apologized. And I won't use the word anymore. But Maki, you think someone's sexuality isn't a touchy subject? Of course it is. Bottom line: prejudice in any form is evil, whether it be sexism, racism, sexuality, religion, anything. They are no different, every one of them labels someone as inferior due to a personality trait. If you can't see that, you need to open your eyes. Sure, I can respect your wishes. I'm not using the term anymore, I just want you all to understand where it comes from. Visit Belial's link, maybe you can understand.

[Tryska]

Gyno:

I want you to understand...I do know what it means...and I have for a good while now....however, where it comes from is not the page Belial pointed too. That's what it means now...but it's similar to the usage of the word "n-i-g-g-a". It may be acceptable and not mean what it used to mean, but there is still a certain weight to it.

As for the gay-jokes..yeah there is a lot of banter back and forth.....and it's not necessarily PC, but that's how y'all seem to relate to each other. I haven't read anything that overtly offends me, and everyone who banters back and forth keeps it (relatively) clean and doesn't get offended by it, or doesn't use it in a necesarily abusive manner, or as an epithet. It was going on long before I got here, Hulk has already made his stand on how he feels about it, and I support him in that.

I don't understand...y'all didn't have this much of a problem with Paul's No Nudity statement, or Anthony's No Cruelty to Animals statement, why is there so much backlash over race? is it not as big of a deal? As it stands, Maki was offended by it, and we have people of many different ethnic backgrounds here. You may not realize something is offensive, and that's ok. But if it is, I will pull it, regardless of what your intentions may have been in posting it. And I stand by that.


btw - not much really offends me, however, I'm also trying to stay respectful of everyone who participates on this board. so please don't think this is about me and my opinions...i'm operating on a larger scope, as I'm sure Hulk and Paul and Anthony are as well. :)

[Maki Riddington]

Originally posted by Gyno Rhino
Look, I apologized. And I won't use the word anymore. But Maki, you think someone's sexuality isn't a touchy subject? Of course it is. Bottom line: prejudice in any form is evil, whether it be sexism, racism, sexuality, religion, anything. They are no different, every one of them labels someone as inferior due to a personality trait. If you can't see that, you need to open your eyes. Sure, I can respect your wishes. I'm not using the term anymore, I just want you all to understand where it comes from. Visit Belial's link, maybe you can understand.


*** Of course the issue on sexuality is a touchy subject. I didn't reference it simply because that was not what my post was directed at. Just because i didn't metion it doesn't mean I'm ignoring the fact that it is a sensitive issue.

I saw the link Belial posted. What does that prove,
that the term you used is proper?
Just because it is on the internet and is a recognized term means nothing.
Maybe you need to understand......................

[Tryska]

actually it's seems the whole topic of sexuality is just a re-direct. why, i'm not sure...but whatever. :rolleyes:

[Gyno Rhino]

The reason there is such a backlash over race is because race IS a big deal. But this is what gets me:

There are people on this board who think that prejudice against someone for race is different from prejudice against someone for something else, in this case homosexuality. There is no difference. They are both prejudice. People have been killed because of their race, and they have been killed because of their sexuality. I feel that there is a real lack of understanding on this board that blasting homosexuals is NOT okay. If you're going to ban nudity, cruelty to animals, racism, sexism, whatever, but allow homosexual bashing? What is that? What kind of double standard is that? It's okay to be prejudiced about sexuality, but anything else is bad! There are lots of things on this site that have made me CRINGE with horror. Remember those pics that Sinep posted a while back? With the stick figures? That may not have offended any of you, but it offended me. And I'm not even homosexual. Hell, you may just drive some poor 13yr. old kid to suicide with that kinda stuff. You never know. So how DARE you all blast me for making a statement that I did not intend to be prejudiced when you front up a prejudiced a view of homosexuals. How dare you.

[Tryska]

Actually Gyno, I agree with you. However, my opinions are not the opinions of this board. I can do my part, but the homosexuality thing was addressed by someone else and as it stands I'm not stepping on any toes. If y'all wish to come to a consensus, seeing as it offensive to some people, have at it, perhaps it will be taken into consideration....But that's for y'all to come to consensus on. Like i said...that was here before I was....the racism wasn't, (whether you meant to offend or not), and I did what I could to make sure it didn't get out of control.

[chris mason]

Gyno, you are 100% correct. Tryska, you brought up the homosexuality thing with a "joke" as you call it. If I called someone a racial slur, just jokingly, would that be ok? Maybe you should edit your post!

[Maki Riddington]

Gyno, here is what I suggest you do.

Since we have acess to polls why not post a poll and see what the members responses are?

[chris mason]

Mac, all he is saying is that any form of predjudice is wrong. Why is there a need to take a poll about that?

[Tryska]

Maki - excellent Idea.

Chris - yes i did, but to clarify:

a. I have no problems with flagrant, flaming, homosexuality, whether in cyberspace, or in real-life, so I don't judge, and far be it for me to keep people who may be gay, from expressing themselves, however they choose, provided it's in general chat. Truth be told, I don't really know anyone here, and therefore am unsure of anyone's sexual orientation, therefore all these people who throw gay-ness around may actually be gay, or may not. I haven't asked. Since i have seen no overt negativity towards homosexuality, far be it for me to make assumptions.

b. I was merely re-iterating the statements set aside by others, in a lighthearted manner.

apologies if it came off as anything other then that.

[Gyno Rhino]

Why would I post a poll asking if it's okay or not to be prejudiced towards homosexuals? Is that a question that really needs to be asked? Or is this society so down the tubes that it DOES have to be asked?

[Tryska]

I don't think the poll was whether it was okay or not, but to figure out what place it has here, and to reach a consensus on behavior from this point forward.

[Daniel Clough]

There IS a difference between racial jokes and homosexual jokes im my opinion..

You get Chicken Daddy and many others round here making the odd homo wise crack. Now it is not a direct remark AGANIST homosexuals but more of a joke between members.

Remember Homosexuality is supposed to be ok but racist remarks are not... Thats how it is.

Any racist type remarks that could offend members will be removed plain and simple.

As far as I can tell there has never been a remark here that wuold be intepreted as offensive towards a homosexual.

[Gyno Rhino]

Homosexuality is supposed to be okay but racist remarks are not..


Well okay, being white or black or indian or chinese or whatever is supposed to be okay, but "homo-bashing" is not.

"BEING" something and "BLASTING" something are two different things. Hulk, how is there a difference between bashing a race and bashing a homosexual? Both remarks are ways of labeling people, ignoring the individual, and stereotyping. Those are not good things. I think me asking a question about people that fake cars, and someone posting pictures depicting homosexual acts ARE different. But how is my question worse than someone making fun of people for being homosexual? This is just a double standard. The reason that the homosexual thing is funny between members is because they are just casually insulting each other about being gay, even though they know that the other person is not. How would it make the homosexual community feel to know that the butt of EVERY joke around here is someone "being gay"? I've seen MANY remarks around here that would be interpreted as offensive to a homosexual. Bottom line: It is WRONG to make fun of someone for being a certain race. It is WRONG to make fun of someone for being a certain sexuality. END OF DISCUSSION.

[Maki Riddington]

Originally posted by Tryska
I don't think the poll was whether it was okay or not, but to figure out what place it has here, and to reach a consensus on behavior from this point forward.


*** Exactly.

[Anthony]

I can't believe people are actually trying to justify differences between types of prejudice. This is absolutely ****ing ridiculous ...

[Gyno Rhino]

I agree TOTALLY, Anthony. This is making me sick.

[Cackerot69]

Oh yeah?

Well, yo momma so stupid she got stabbed in a shoot-out!

How's that for offensive, biatch?

[Gyno Rhino]

hehe! At least you're prejudice against everything. ;) Not just some kind of sick twisted "racist nay, gay ok" kinda stuff.

[ElPietro]

I think it's ok to joke about any topic. I am friends with people from all walks of life and consider myself very open minded. As long as things are kept light-hearted and nothing is said in anger I feel things are fine.

I joke around with my friends we sling racial slurs back and forth without a thought. Of course I don't do that with ppl I've just met or one's I think will take offense. But that doesn't change how I act towards my friends. I think it's pretty simple to distinguish between a joke and something that should be treated otherwise.

Racism=bad, but PC=bull****e in my opinion. Political correctness came from the extreme elements of the feminist movement and I feel has been taken a bit too far. By changing words we don't really change our thoughts and it causes further problems than good. I will never call a man-hole cover a person-hole cover and to me women are ladies, chicks, cutie-pies or whatever else i feel is appropriate that won't offend. Ppl are too damned sensitive in this day and age...whatever happened to the sticks and stones mentality. Everyone is ready to break down and cry over some bs comments, instead of learning to ignore stupidity. I personally don't believe in censorship but I do believe in respecting others, so normally things should work out fine. Sure there will be dumbasses but I don't see why all this gets blown outta proportion all the time cuz someone says something that obviously is a joke but others start crying over. You can't please everyone and trying to is just plain ******ed. (oops can I say ******ed?)

[Tryska]

My last Input on this issue:


All emotions, thoughts and actions have there root in one of two sources:

Love or Fear.


that which is not love, comes from fear.

Granted, Gyno, when you posted your Rice-boy link, you probably didn't do it from a perspective of being afraid of the Japanese. However, that particular term, did not originally spring from a place of love.

Now, the bantering that goes on here, amongst several members of the board, isn't about insulting each other, or being disrespectful. It comes, in my opinion from a place of Love, it's friends sharing an inside joke with each other, and none of them are offended by it. I think y'all are make assumptions as outsiders to this joke, that this is somehow abusive or meant to hurt and your assumptions are made through the filters of your beliefs. ie: gay = bad

Like i said...I have seen no gay-bashing on this site. If i did, I would have said something. I've been in physical fights before with real gay-bashers coming from a place of fear, so I have no qualms of speaking up in cyber-space.

[Belial]

I actually agree with ElPietro.

[ElPietro]

Originally posted by Belial
I actually agree with ElPietro.

Woohoo! :D

[Daniel Clough]

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