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Moose
02-09-2003, 07:18 PM
Feb. 3


2:00
3 Whole Eggs
3 Egg Whites
Multivitamin
Water


5:00
Steak (7 or 8 oz?)
1 tspn. Natty PB ( 3.5g carbs ) (****!! not supposed to have nuts)


8:00
Chicken Breast
American Cheese 1 slice


11:30
Chicken Breast
American Cheese 2 slices





Feb. 4
11:30
3 Whole Eggs
3 Egg Whites
American Cheese 1 slice
Multivitamin



2:30
Tuna 1 can
Mayo 3 tbsp.
2 cups lettuce


5:00
Steak
Cod Fish
Ketchup 1 tbsp.


9:00
Steak
Cod Fish


2:30
Cod Fish



Feb. 5


10:45
3 Whole Eggs
3 Egg Whites
American Cheese 2 slices

(fell asleep after breakfast, hence the more than 4 hours between eating)

3:30
Tuna 1 can
Mayo 3 tbsp.
Onion 1/2 slice chopped

6:30
Chicken Breast
American Cheese 2 slices

10:15
Chicken Breast
American Cheese 1 slice

1:45
Tuna 1 can
3 tbsp. Mayo
Onion 1/2 slice chopped
Multivitamin (I forgot this morning)



Feb. 6


11:45
3 Whole Eggs
3 Egg Whites
American Cheese 2 slices
Multivitamin

3:30
Tuna 1 can
Mayo 3 tbsp.

8:30
Salmon Steak

11:45
Tuna 1 can
Mayo 3 tbsp.



Feb. 7


12:30
3 Whole Eggs
3 Egg Whites
American Cheese 2 slices


3:15
Chicken Legs, 3 pieces
Multivitamin


6:45
Steak
American Cheese 1 slice


9:45
Tuna 1 can
Mayo 3 tbsp.
Onion, 1/2 slice chopped


1:30
Chicken Legs, 2 pieces
Cheddar Cheese, 1 medium block



Feb. 8


12:30
3 Whole Eggs
3 Egg Whites
Multivitamin


3:40
Tuna 1 can
Mayo 3 tbsp
Green Peppers fried in vegetable oil (about 1.5 small ones)


6:30
Cod Fish
Green Peppers fried in vegetable oil (about 1 small one)
Cheddar Cheese 1 medium square


9:30
Tuna 1 can
Mayo 3 tbsp.
Onion 1/2 slice chopped


1:00
Cod Fish
Cheddar Cheese large block



Feb. 9


11:30
3 Whole Eggs
3 Egg Whites

4:30
Tuna 1 can
Mayo 3 tbsp.
Onion 1/2 slice chopped

6:45
Chicken Breast
Cheddar Cheese 1 large block

9:45
Chicken Breast
Flax 1 tbsp.

12:45
Chicken Breast
Flax 1 tbsp.



That will conclude the "metabolic shift" portion of NHE cutting diet.
Now I can have Natty PB, Nuts, Fruit, and Lots of Brocolli w/ a little cheese or butter. I will also be having a small protein shake post w/o now. I've lost about 8-10 lbs. of bodyweight after the first week.

I did not lift during this past week. Training resumes Monday.

MonStar
02-09-2003, 07:43 PM
Awesome choice for the diet Moose, really thnik that youre going to get some good results with it. I really enjoyed NHE. Lots loads of fat while retaining my muscle, youre most likely going to feel a bit depleted though..

Moose
02-09-2003, 10:15 PM
Thanks alot MonStar. I've read your journals and hopefully I'll have similar results. Feel free to comment or offer suggestions anytime.

Moose
02-09-2003, 10:17 PM
Meal 1 (10:30)
3 whole eggs (1.8g carbs)
3 egg whites (1.8g carbs)
Strawberries (nice handful)
Multivitamin
Glutamine


Workout (11:30)



Post-Workout (12:30)
Whey Shake (1.5 scoops = 9g carbs)
Whipping Cream (2 tbsp = 1g carbs)
Creatine
Glutamine
Flax 1 tbsp.


Meal 2 (2:15)
Chicken Breast
Strawberries (nice handful)
Natty PB 2 tbsp (5g active carbs)


Meal 3 (4:45)
Beef or Fish
Brocolli
American Cheese 2 slices (4g carbs)


Meal 4 (7:15)
Chicken Breast
Almonds 1/4 can (3g active carbs)


Meal 5 (9:45)
Tuna 1 can
Mayo 3 tbsp (1.5g carbs)
Onion 1/2 slice chopped


Meal 6 (12:15)
Cottage Cheese 1/2 tub (10g carbs)
1 tbsp. Flax
Glutamine


Totals = 37.1g active carbs + Strawberries & Onion

Moose
02-09-2003, 10:22 PM
Carb-up every Wednsday and Sunday


Meal 1 (10:00)
3 whole eggs (1.8g carbs)
3 egg whites (1.8g carbs)
Strawberries (a few)
Multivitamin
Glutamine


Meal 2 (1:30)
Tuna 1 can
Mayo 3 tbsp (1.5g carbs)
Onion 1/2 slice chopped


Meal 3 (5:00)
Chicken Breast
Flax 1 tbsp.


(sip on water from here on)



Meal 4 (8:30)
Huge Bowl Pasta w/ Sauce
Creatine
Glutamine
Multivitamin

Meal 5 (9:30)
Sweet Potatoes - 3

Meal 6 (10:30)
Oats

Meal 7 (11:30)
McDonald's Fruit n' Yogurt Parfait (31g carbs....2.5g fat)
or
Fat Free Frozen Yogurt
or
Ice Cream Sandwich(s)



Sleep no earlier than 1:00

Moose
02-10-2003, 10:08 PM
Meal 1 (11:30)
3 whole eggs (1.8g carbs)
3 egg whites (1.8g carbs)
Strawberries (small handful)
Multivitamin


Meal 2 (2:15)
Tuna 1 can
Mayo 3 tbsp (1.5g carbs)
Onion 1/2 slice chopped
Almonds 1/4 can (3g active carbs)


Meal 3 (5:15)
Salmon Steak
Brocolli
American Cheese 2 slices (4g carbs)


Meal 4 (9:15)
Tuna 1 can
Mayo 3 tbsp (1.5g carbs)
Strawberries (a few)
Natty PB 2 tbsp. (5g active carbs)


Workout (10:50)
Chest + Triceps


Post Workout Shake (11:40)
Whey 1.5 scoops (9g carbs)
Creatine 5g
Glutamine 10g
Flax 2 tbsp.


Meal 5 (1:00)
Cottage Cheese 1/2 tub (10g carbs)
1 tbsp. Flax


Total = 37.6g active carbs + 1/2 slice Onion + handful Strawberries

Moose
02-10-2003, 10:12 PM
Gonna bump my post-workout shake to 2 scoops since I've got a decent amount of room before the 60g active carb limit.

CBates
02-10-2003, 10:20 PM
Good luck on the Diet, I've been on the NHE diet for 5 weeks now and have already seen great results. I'll be checking your journal frequently to see the results you're having on the diet.

Moose
02-10-2003, 10:29 PM
Thanks alot. I must say I love this diet so far. Metabolic shift was a piece of cake until the last day. Now that I can include fruit and nuts it's even better. Can't wait 'til my carb-up to see what it's like.

Moose
02-10-2003, 10:36 PM
If you get a minute....can you be more specific about the results you have seen? Also, what kind of training split are you doing? Are you following Faigin's recommendations as far as not training 2 days in a row? I'm not......It's not realistic if you ask me. I'm doing a Mon, Tue, Thur, Fri split. Basketball on Sunday mornings. Are you doing cardio? Thanks...

ericg
02-11-2003, 06:56 AM
Nice choice of diet man! I havnet heard a bad thing about it yet. I am also on the NHE (just started yesterday). Mine is a little bit different though (not much, just the carb loads and such). Will be peeking at your journal to see how things are going. Keep up the good work man.

So what are your goals? When are you going to post some workouts?

CBates
02-11-2003, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by Moose
If you get a minute....can you be more specific about the results you have seen? Also, what kind of training split are you doing? Are you following Faigin's recommendations as far as not training 2 days in a row? I'm not......It's not realistic if you ask me. I'm doing a Mon, Tue, Thur, Fri split. Basketball on Sunday mornings. Are you doing cardio? Thanks...

The results I've seen has been great as far as strength and fat loss. I'm not too sure about any LBM added though, since I don't get my body fat tested. I've lost about 18 pounds so far on it, I've been on it for 5 weeks exactly yesterday. Now as far as the 18 pounds, I'm sure a lot of it is water weight, but I know some is fat because all my pants is fitting a lot loose then they used to and I'm starting to see some veins run through my biceps and small traces of veins run through my abs. I am following Robs recommendations on the training, as not training 2 days in a row. But it's pretty easy for me since I'm on a 3 day split. Friday is chest/back/riiceps; Sunday is legs/abs/; Tuesday is shoulders/biceps so I can get it in there; but with somebody having a four day split it might be kinda hard to not train 2 days in a row. Also I'm not currently doing cardio. But when it warms up here in the next month I might go outside and jog 2 or maybe even 3 days a week. Depends on what my results are in about a month I guess, if I still need to shed some fat then I probably will. I have a journal here I keep udated 'Bored and need something to do'. You should check it out as far as to see what my diet looks like and my training split.

AJ_11
02-11-2003, 09:15 AM
I think that we should start our own little cult here at the WBB on the NHE Diet. LOL, I am almost done my metabolic shift and feel this is the best diet thus far. I feel even now that I have more energy and I could see my strength go up even this early in the game.

CBates, jsut wondering on the carb load day do you add in protein in those carb loads. I will take a peek at your journal.

And Moose make sure that you get a before and after, I diet the first time that I lost almost 75llbs and I regret it now.

Good luck with you diets and your journals and I will start my journal soon after I get my CPU back.

AJ

CBates
02-11-2003, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by AJ_11
I think that we should start our own little cult here at the WBB on the NHE Diet. LOL, I am almost done my metabolic shift and feel this is the best diet thus far. I feel even now that I have more energy and I could see my strength go up even this early in the game.

CBates, jsut wondering on the carb load day do you add in protein in those carb loads. I will take a peek at your journal.

And Moose make sure that you get a before and after, I diet the first time that I lost almost 75llbs and I regret it now.

Good luck with you diets and your journals and I will start my journal soon after I get my CPU back.

AJ

My carb up meals usually include around 10g of protein and about 10-15g of fat. So I stay in the recommendation of Rob. The only protein I eat is waht is in the carbs, so it's not much. Like whatever protein is in the pasta, brown rice, or oats. I do however, allow one cheat carb up meal a month, where I eat pizza and other junk food, so on those carb up meals, I'll have over the 20g of fat and protein.

The_Chicken_Daddy
02-11-2003, 11:25 AM
It can be helpful every few weeks if you do a quick tally of calories and take some off if weight loss starts to stall a bit.

Moose
02-11-2003, 04:41 PM
So far I've got.....


Shake = 260
Tuna = 200
Mayo = 300
PB = 200
Almonds = 240
Flax = 260
Eggs = 240 with yolks + 75 without yolks?
Cottage Cheese = 240
Chicken Breasts = 260 to 300
Beef/Fish = 300 to 500
American Cheese = ?


Whipping Cream, Strawberries, Brocolli, and Onion are negligible

Should be in caloric deficit for quite a while. Then I'll probably get rid of one meal.

Moose
02-11-2003, 07:36 PM
Meal 1 (11:15)
3 Whole Eggs (1.8g carbs)
3 Egg Whites (1.8g carbs)
Strawberries
Multivitamin


Meal 2 (3:25)
Tuna 1 can
Mayo 3 tbsp (1.5g carbs)
Onion 1/2 slice chopped


Meal 3 (5:45)
Chicken Breast
Almonds 1/4 can (3g active carbs)


Workout (8:30)
Back (includes Traps)


Post-Workout (9:15)
Whey Shake (2 scoops = 12g carbs)
Creatine
Glutamine
Flax 2 tbsp.


Meal 4 (10:45)
Chicken Breast
Strawberries (nice handful)
Natty PB 2 tbsp (5g active carbs)


Meal 5 (1:15)
Cottage Cheese 1/2 tub (10g carbs)
American Cheese 2 slices (4g carbs)


Totals = 39.1g active carbs + Strawberries

Moose
02-12-2003, 08:54 PM
Meal 1 (11:45)
3 whole eggs (1.8g carbs)
3 egg whites (1.8g carbs)
Strawberries (a few)
Multivitamin


Meal 2 (3:00)
Tuna 1 can
Mayo 3 tbsp (1.5g carbs)
Onion 1/2 slice chopped


Meal 3 (5:30)
Steak
Ketchup 1 tbsp. (4g carbs)
American Cheese 2 slices (4g carbs)


Meal 4 (8:40-11:40)
Huuuge Bowl Pasta w/ Sauce
2 tbsp. Fleishman's Butter
Creatine
Glutamine
Sweet Potato - 1
Two.....Silhouette Skinny Cow Low Fat Ice Cream Sadwich Vanilla - (23g carbs, 2g fat, 5g protein)



Note: Shouldn't have added the butter....it did nothing but add fat to the carb up. Carb-up was over the course of 3 hours or so. I could not eat nearly as much as I thought I would. After the Pasta and first Sweet Potato, I died out. No more Sweet Potatoes during carb-up. I'll go strictly with Pasta, Dry Oats, and a couple Ice Cream Sandwiches. Damn I'm exhausted from this carb-up. First time I've ever done this.

Moose
02-12-2003, 09:26 PM
Actually, I'm not gonna eat the Ice Cream Sandwiches tonight. I can't believe I'm even saying this. I just don't feel like going to the store now.....and even if I had them here....I probably wouldn't eat them anyway. Now that I know what a carb-up is like, I'll be better prepared and smarter about future carb-up days. Chalk this one up to a "learning experience".

EMan
02-13-2003, 12:23 AM
Great Journal Moose.

I'm also following the NHE and I've just finished doing the depletion and started a journal here too.

I noticed Rob said nuts and such have a bit of carbs and we should avoid them during the depletion, however since my overall carb count was really low I decided to add a couple of tbsp. of peanut butter toward the end and I think it only increased the carb count to about 7g of carbs for every 3 tbsp. my total being 16g for the day (<20g).

ericg
02-13-2003, 08:27 AM
Originally posted by EMan
Great Journal Moose.

I'm also following the NHE and I've just finished doing the depletion and started a journal here too.

I noticed Rob said nuts and such have a bit of carbs and we should avoid them during the depletion, however since my overall carb count was really low I decided to add a couple of tbsp. of peanut butter toward the end and I think it only increased the carb count to about 7g of carbs for every 3 tbsp. my total being 16g for the day (<20g).

Just as long as you stay below 20g you are set. I think his reason is that some/most people can get carried away with nuts and eat them non stop. If you can controll yourself and keep track then you are cool.

AJ_11
02-13-2003, 08:49 AM
Originally posted by ericg


I think his reason is that some/most people can get carried away with nuts and eat them non stop. If you can controll yourself and keep track then you are cool.

:cry:

That is me definatley, THat is why I am staying away. Natty PB is the worst for me. I can eat so much. THat is one of the reasons that I am doing this diet because even though I eat clean I tended to binge at time. So far (still in carb depletion) I am noticing that the urge for binging is disappearing. Maybe its the diet maybe it is that fact that I don't want to go through another week of minimal carbs. I love lettuce and spinach but I hate counting cals. I am thinking about doing the fitday route. Too bad I am lazy. Oh well that is why I haven't started a journal yet.

Moose
02-13-2003, 08:12 PM
Meal 1 (7:45)
3 whole eggs (1.8g carbs)
3 egg whites (1.8g carbs)
Strawberries (nice handful)
Multivitamin


Meal 2 (11:00)
Steak
American Cheese 2 slices (4g carbs)


Meal 3 (2:45)
Chicken Breast
Almonds 1/4 can (3g active carbs)


Meal 4 (6:15)
Salmon Steak
Strawberries (nice handful)
Natty PB 2 tbsp (5g active carbs)


Workout (8:35)
Legs


Post-Workout (9:20)
Whey Shake (2 scoops = 12g carbs)
Whipping Cream (2 tbsp = 2g carbs)
Creatine
Glutamine
Flax 1 tbsp.


Meal 5 (10:30)
Tuna 1 can
Mayo 3 tbsp (1.5g carbs)
Onion 1/2 slice chopped


Meal 6 (12:30)
Cottage Cheese 1/2 tub (10g carbs)
1 tbsp. Flax


Totals = 41.1g active carbs + Strawberries



Awesome leg workout today. Soon I'll start posting my workouts. Diet is going so well. Never have a single craving. Energy is very good. Sleeping like a baby.

Moose
02-14-2003, 08:22 PM
Meal 1 (11:00)
3 whole eggs (1.8g carbs)
3 egg whites (1.8g carbs)
Strawberries (nice handful)
Multivitamin


Meal 2 (2:30)
Chicken Breast
Almonds 1/4 can (3g active carbs)


Meal 3 (5:40)
Steak
Spinach
Butter 2 tbsp.
Natty PB 1 tbsp (2.5g active carbs)


Workout (8:40)
Shoulders + Biceps


Post-Workout (9:30)
Whey Shake (2 scoops = 12g carbs)
Whipping Cream (2 tbsp = 2g carbs)
Creatine
Glutamine
Flax 1 tbsp.


Meal 4 (10:30)
Chicken Breast
American Cheese 1 slice (2g carbs)
Strawberries (nice handful)
Natty PB 2 tbsp (5g active carbs)


Meal 5 (12:45)
Cottage Cheese 1/2 tub (10g carbs)
1 tbsp. Flax


Totals = 40.1g active carbs + Strawberries

Moose
02-15-2003, 11:52 PM
Meal 1 (1:00)
3 whole eggs (1.8g carbs)
2 egg whites (1.2g carbs)
Strawberries (nice handful)


Meal 2 (4:00)
Tuna 1 can
Mayo 3 tbsp (1.5g carbs)
Onion 1 slice chopped


Meal 3 (7:30)
Chicken Breast
American Cheese 1.5 slices (3g carbs)
Almonds 1/4 can (3g active carbs)
Multivitamin (forgot this morning)


Meal 4 (11:00)
Chicken Breast
American Cheese 2 slices (4g carbs)
Strawberries (nice handful)
Natty PB 2 tbsp (5g active carbs)


Meal 6 (1:40)
Cottage Cheese 1/2 tub (10g carbs)
Natty PB 2 tbsp (5g active carbs)
1 tbsp. Flax


Totals = 34.5g active carbs + Strawberries

Moose
02-16-2003, 09:56 PM
Meal 1 (10:30)
3 whole eggs (1.8g carbs)
3 egg whites (1.8g carbs)
Strawberries (nice handful)
Multivitamin


Meal 2 (12:30)
Tuna 1 can
Mayo 3 tbsp (1.5g carbs)


Meal 3 (5:40)
Sausage + Peppers
Olive Oil
Almonds (handful) (1g active carbs)


Meal 4 (7:40)
Cod Fish
Strawberries (nice handful)
Natty PB 2 tbsp (5g active carbs)
Flax 1 tbsp.


Meal 5 (Carb-Up) (10:00 - 11:30)
Pasta
Sauce, Healthy Choice
3 - Skinny Cow Low Fat Ice Cream Sadwich Vanilla
Each - (23g carbs, 2g fat, 5g protein)


Guestimate of Carb-Up: 237g carbs (70% starchy, 30% sugary)

Moose
02-17-2003, 07:16 PM
Meal 1 (11:30)
3 whole eggs (1.8g carbs)
3 egg whites (1.8g carbs)
Strawberries (nice handful)
Multivitamin


Meal 2 (2:30)
Cod Fish
Almonds 1/4 can (3g active carbs)


Meal 3 (4:30)
Tuna 1 can
Mayo 3 tbsp (1.5g carbs)
Onion 1 slice chopped


Workout (7:45)
Chest + Triceps


Post-Workout (8:30)
Whey Shake (2 scoops = 12g carbs)
Whipping Cream (2 tbsp = 2g carbs)
Creatine
Glutamine
Flax 1 tbsp.


Meal 4 (9:30)
Chicken Breast
American Cheese 1 slice (2g carbs)
Strawberries (nice handful)
Natty PB 1 tbsp (2.5g active carbs)


Meal 5 (11:30)
Chicken Breast
American Cheese 1 slice (2g carbs)
Natty PB 1 tbsp (2.5g active carbs)


Meal 6 (1:30)
Cottage Cheese 1/2 tub (10g carbs)
1 tbsp. Flax


Totals = 41.1g active carbs + Strawberries

CBates
02-17-2003, 07:23 PM
I'm curious, are you going to post any workouts? Sorry if this has been answered already, if it was, I over looked it.

Moose
02-18-2003, 08:32 PM
Meal 1 (11:00)
3 whole eggs (1.8g carbs)
3 egg whites (1.8g carbs)
Strawberries (nice handful)
Multivitamin


Meal 2 (2:30)
Tuna 1 can
FF Mayo 3 tbsp (6g carbs)
Onion 1 slice chopped


Meal 3 (6:00)
Cottage Cheese 1/2 tub (10g carbs)
Sausage + Pepper + Olive Oil (very little)


Workout (8:45)
Back + Traps


Post-Workout (9:45)
Whey Shake (2 scoops = 12g carbs)
Whipping Cream (3 tbsp = 3g carbs)
Creatine
Glutamine
Flax 1 tbsp.


Meal 4 (10:30)
Chicken Breast
American Cheese 1 slice (2g carbs)
Strawberries (nice handful)
Natty PB 1 tbsp (2.5g active carbs)


Meal 5 (1:00)
Chicken Breast
American Cheese 1 slice (2g carbs)
Almonds 1/4 can (3g active carbs)


Totals = 44.1g active carbs + Strawberries


Note: My weight has been stagnant for a little while now. I can definitely tell I have lost body fat by my clothes fitting. It seems like I am gaining muscle mass and losing bodyfat at the same time...being a new lifter and having a good amount of bodyfat to shed. It's all good though.....I'm following this diet spot on.

Moose
02-18-2003, 08:34 PM
Yes, I'll be posting my workouts soon. Don't worry, I'm not breaking any records...lol

Moose
02-18-2003, 09:08 PM
I'm going to aim to lower my fat intake. It's a little excessive. I guess I wanted it high to ensure I have no cravings and stick to the diet in the early stages. Should be much easier now. Starting Monday I will peel back on the fat a bit. I want to stay with my current program for the duration of this week to see what happens.

Also, I will aim to get a serving of vegetables every day (brocolli, peppers, etc....).

Moose
02-18-2003, 09:13 PM
Made a small error in my diet posted above. The 1 tbsp. Natty PB should read (5g carbs), and the total for the day should read 46.6g active carbs + Strawberries

Moose
02-18-2003, 09:15 PM
Forget the correction.....the diet post above is indeed correct. lol

AJ_11
02-18-2003, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by Moose
I'm going to aim to lower my fat intake. It's a little excessive. I guess I wanted it high to ensure I have no cravings and stick to the diet in the early stages. Should be much easier now. Starting Monday I will peel back on the fat a bit. I want to stay with my current program for the duration of this week to see what happens.

Also, I will aim to get a serving of vegetables every day (brocolli, peppers, etc....).

I don't think that your fat intake is all that high, how much grams are you getting a day. ALso try not to lower it too much becasue you want to meet you caloric need and as well the cravings are horrid. I already have to do a 2 day depletion because I lowered it to low and pigged out on PB, that is mydownfall. I love it so much. I don't know what came over me. I down 1800 cals in one sitting felt like sh*t after. That is why I am going to cut out all Simple carbs from my carb up meals for the time being and stick to a stricter diet.

Moose
02-18-2003, 10:24 PM
Thanks for posting. You know what.......you're absolutely right. I just went back and looked through my whole journal. My fat intake is just fine. I'm gonna stick with my current plan for the foreseeable future. I'm just gonna concentrate on getting more veggies in (the one's Faigin allows without counting them). I am also going to add another multivitamin per day. Right now I take one Centrum in the morning. I will add another one to an evening meal.

AJ_11
02-18-2003, 10:33 PM
how is your diet going anyways; post your progress, I have well, had better days, I am still thinking about that dam PB frenzy. Dammit and I was really looking forward to my Carb Up. So far I have lost 4llbs in the last 2 weeks and about an inch off my waist, hopefully I can make better progess. The reason that I am doing this diet becasue I have all these cravings and it takes alot of will power to not go overboard. Sometime I lose though.

Moose
02-19-2003, 10:42 PM
Meal 1 (12:20)
3 whole eggs (1.8g carbs)
3 egg whites (1.8g carbs)
Strawberries (nice handful)
Multivitamin


Meal 2 (3:50)
Chicken Breast
American Cheese 1.5 slice (3g carbs)
Almonds 1/4 can (3g active carbs)


Meal 3 (6:30)
Salmon


Carb-Up (10:00 - 12:00)
Pasta
Sauce, Healthy Choice
3 - Skinny Cow Low Fat Ice Cream Sadwich Vanilla
Each - (23g carbs, 2g fat, 5g protein)


Carb-Up Estimate: 285g carbs....Approximately 75% starchy, 25% sugary carbs



Note: Not exactly the ideal day before the carb-up. Should have gotten another meal in, but that's the way it goes sometimes.

Moose
02-20-2003, 09:40 PM
Meal 1 (12:00)
3 whole eggs (1.8g carbs)
3 egg whites (1.8g carbs)
Strawberries (nice handful)
Multivitamin


Meal 2 (3:00)
Salmon
Almonds 1/4 can (3g active carbs)


Meal 3 (6:00)
Chicken Thighs - 2
American Cheese 2 slice (4g carbs)
Natty PB 2 tbsp (5g active carbs)


Workout (8:15)
Legs


Post-Workout (8:50)
Whey Shake (2 scoops = 12g carbs)
Whipping Cream (2 tbsp = 2g carbs)
Creatine
Glutamine


Meal 4 (10:45)
Salmon
Strawberries (nice handful)
Natty PB 2 tbsp (5g active carbs)


Meal 5 ()
Cottage Cheese 1/2 tub (10g carbs)
1 tbsp. Flax


Totals = 44.6g active carbs + Strawberries

AJ_11
02-21-2003, 12:31 AM
Hey Moose are you meeting you daily requirement as far as protein and cals go. You diet seems really low cal. I eat more than that and I think I weight less. Try to get in at least 12X BW and 1 gram of protein in per pound

EMan
02-21-2003, 10:56 PM
I agree with AJ_11.

Enter your stuff at fitday.com and see how much you're eating bro.

Moose
02-25-2003, 06:26 PM
Meal 1 (1:30)
3 whole eggs (1.8g carbs)
3 egg whites (1.8g carbs)
Strawberries (nice handful)
Multivitamin


Meal 2 (4:30)
Chicken Thighs - 2
American Cheese 2 slice (4g carbs)
Natty PB 2 tbsp (5g active carbs)


Meal 3 (7:00)
Chicken Breast
American Cheese 1 slice (2g carbs)
Almonds 1/4 can (3g active carbs)


Meal 4 (9:40)
Chicken Breast
American Cheese 2 slice (4g carbs)
Strawberries (nice handful)
Natty PB 2 tbsp (5g active carbs)


Meal 5 (2:45)
Cottage Cheese 1/2 tub (10g carbs)
Natty PB 2 tbsp (5g active carbs)


Totals = 41.6g active carbs + Strawberries

Moose
02-25-2003, 06:34 PM
Meal 1 (1:30)
3 whole eggs (1.8g carbs)
3 egg whites (1.8g carbs)
Strawberries (nice handful)
Multivitamin


Meal 2 (5:30)
Steak
Natty PB 2 tbsp (5g active carbs)


Workout: (8:00)
Shoulders + Biceps


Post-Workout (8:45)
Whey Shake (2 scoops = 12g carbs)
Whipping Cream (2 tbsp = 2g carbs)
Creatine
Glutamine


Meal 3 (9:45)
Chicken Thighs - 2
American Cheese 2 slice (4g carbs)
Strawberries (nice handful)


Meal 4 (3:00)
Cottage Cheese 1/2 tub (10g carbs)
Almonds 1/4 can (3g active carbs)


Totals = 39.6g active carbs + Strawberries

Moose
02-25-2003, 06:42 PM
Sunday:
Well, I really went and blew my diet. Went out to the bar all day and all night and got trashed. Ended up eating 2 slices of pizza in my drunken state. What's done is done I guess.

Monday:
Was hurting all day. Ended up eating very little and drinking alot of milk. No workout.

Tuesday (today):
Feel much better. Have been eating good today, but not really keeping track. I will finish this week eating properly according to NHE......and starting Monday I will do the metabolic shift over again. I'm not pleased.....but no sense crying over spilled milk.
Workouts will resume tomorrow.

Moose
02-25-2003, 06:44 PM
Why should I bother with Fitday? This diet doesn't require calorie counting. You really think that's what's hurting my fat loss progress? Maybe I'll start tracking for a week just to see.....

EMan
02-25-2003, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by Moose
Why should I bother with Fitday? This diet doesn't require calorie counting. You really think that's what's hurting my fat loss progress? Maybe I'll start tracking for a week just to see.....

It's not really hurting fatloss but it could be bringing on muscle loss if you eat way too little. I know the diet doesn't want you to count cals but I still do because if I eat 1500 a day I'd lose muscle (i'm 215lbs).

Just enter a couple of days' worth of food from your diet in fitday (it's free) and see how many cals you're eating approx.

AJ_11
02-25-2003, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by EMan


It's not really hurting fatloss but it could be bringing on muscle loss if you eat way too little. I know the diet doesn't want you to count cals but I still do because if I eat 1500 a day I'd lose muscle (i'm 215lbs).

Just enter a couple of days' worth of food from your diet in fitday (it's free) and see how many cals you're eating approx.

I agree, that is why I have to redo my metabolic shift because when I thought I was getting under 20grams of active carbs they were higher, and the protein per meal. Remeber that rob say not to count cals because it doesn't matter if you go over, But I think that you are cutting too much. Multiply your BW by 12 and the the least amout that you should be getting.

EMan
02-26-2003, 01:37 AM
Originally posted by AJ_11


I agree, that is why I have to redo my metabolic shift because when I thought I was getting under 20grams of active carbs they were higher, and the protein per meal. Remeber that rob say not to count cals because it doesn't matter if you go over, But I think that you are cutting too much. Multiply your BW by 12 and the the least amout that you should be getting.

for sure. counting for me is to make sure I get enough cals!