Why Protein Supplements aren't perfect

[JohnnyAutoParts]

The following paragraph was taken from Lou Schuler's Testosterone Advantage Plan:


One 1979 study suggested that a high-protein diet causes your body to lose calcium through urination, leading to weaker bones. But a 1985 study showed that is more of a problem with purified proteins, such as those in meal-replacements supplements like MET-Rx or Myoplex. The natural, unpurified protein in actual food has a high phosphorous content, negating the pissed-away-bones effect. It works like this: The mineral phosphorous helps to decrease the amount of calcium that's excreted in your urine and increase the amount that's reabsorbed back into your body.

[PeaceBeWithYou]

Sounds like an advertisement.

[steveo]

:rolleyes:

[Shao-LiN]

Don't make a majority of your diet whey protein, then.

[sweet-physique]

Most people just use whey as a supplement, that is, an adjunct to their diet which in most cases here at WBB is protein rich with whole foods. But if it bothers you just Mix your whey with milk instead of water.

[JohnnyAutoParts]

great discussion boys

[Shao-LiN]

What's there to discuss? The theme of the study, to me, is get most of your protein from whole foods pretty much. Kind of sounds a little common sense.

[Podium Kreatin]

phosphorous is very abundant, u don't need to really emphasize on eating more of it

[GonePostal]

2 key words in that "study"
ONE and SUGGESTED

[Shankerr]

two other key words... 1979 and 1985... Oh wait a second... that was what, almost 20 years ago now that this research was done........ it does make sense, but I am wondering what ratio of whey to solid foods you'd have to eat for phosphorus to be a probelm.. like what, 10 parts whey, 1 part whole food per daily diet.??

[Podium Kreatin]

well, phosphorous is recycled, our bodies don't really get rid of it as a waste product. in nutri sci, we learned that phospholipid supps are waste, cuz its not essential (our bodies can make it themselves)

[JohnnyAutoParts]

I just thought this would raise more of a stir than the usual supplement post...from the journals I have read most people take between 3 to 6 scoops of whey per day. I know it sounds simple to just focus on whole foods, but its easier said than done. Protein shakes have become a staple in the bodybuilding culture...and you NEVER hear anything bad about them besides their price. I found this tidbit very interesting.

[Saint Patrick]

*drinks a 60g whey shake*

[carolinagirl]

I read some vegetarian propaganda once (a book called 'grains and greens' or some such nonsense) that said that high phosphorus levels in the blood require high calcium levels in the blood as well, so a high-phosphorus diet (they were talking about meat, but sodas have TONS of phosphorus in them) forces yr. body to leach calcium from the bones to balance out the ratio properly.

This would seem to be the opposite of what you posted. (I'm not vouching for the scientific veracity of this book and I'm not doing a medline search either, so take it for what it's worth!)

[JohnnyAutoParts]

Originally posted by carolinagirl
I read some vegetarian propaganda once (a book called 'grains and greens' or some such nonsense) that said that high phosphorus levels in the blood require high calcium levels in the blood as well, so a high-phosphorus diet (they were talking about meat, but sodas have TONS of phosphorus in them) forces yr. body to leach calcium from the bones to balance out the ratio properly.

This would seem to be the opposite of what you posted. (I'm not vouching for the scientific veracity of this book and I'm not doing a medline search either, so take it for what it's worth!)


If you are going to listen to the vegetarians, you might as well give up all dairy and meat and start getting your protein from soy. Its tough to bring vegetarian logic into the body building world since whey is derived from milk~one of the vegetarians most feared substances.

[carolinagirl]

I hate vegetarians.

[PowerManDL]

Rock on.