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Beast
02-18-2003, 09:14 PM
Is there any validity to this guy's article? I'm just asking since I see that you all usually recommend 400-500mg test per day for beginners, while this guy says that 500mg per week is enough, with 1000mg per week being substantial for an "advanced trainer."

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/faq/testosterone/are-recommendations-of-one-gram-per-week-of-testosterone-excessive.htm

Severed Ties
02-18-2003, 11:26 PM
Yes their is a great deal of validity to that article, I've looked at a few studies which all concluded that 300mg/week has no effect on muscle growth unless the test subject had natural T levels on the low end of the spectrum.

My favorite quote has to be "They probably would have regained 10 lb. of muscle and gained a new 10 lb. just on Placebobolan"

I know when Brock Strasser was more active on t-mag as the anabolic guru he had a number of members doing 1 gram of testosterone/week for their first cycle without any problems.

I don't see anything particularly dangerous about this but rather just needless.


ST

Ozzymt
02-19-2003, 03:41 AM
surely 1 gram of test a week for a beginner is totally pointless. The sides are more apparent amoungst other things.

If you can make gains on the lesser dose then IMO that is far more advisable that just bumping up the quantity.

Shankerr
02-22-2003, 03:33 PM
As a beginner, I make killer gains on 500mg/wk. I honestly don;t see why anyone would need more than that to start on.. Maybe later, but right off the bat? No way!

Budiak
02-23-2003, 03:12 AM
A good friend of mine frontloaded on 1.5 grams and 1 gram (first two weeks) and he has nothing but bigger arms, bigger legs, and a great new pair of tits to prove that it is totally safe.


He wont front at that high a dose again. I think 500-1000 is plenty for average Joe's first, second, maybe up to fifth or sixth cycles. At that point, where he is getting large enough to outlast the efficacy of a gram of test, I think most people would look in the mirror and think 'You know, maybe this is why the guys at the border keep bothering me.'

BCC
02-23-2003, 12:56 PM
Wait, rumor also has it that your friend made simple mathematical errors which yielded those ridiculous front loads? Any truth to this? ;)

tony touch
02-23-2003, 01:36 PM
500 mg is optimal along with a lil dbol

Budiak
02-23-2003, 02:15 PM
Thats no rumor!