how is deca on its own.....i need help, please....

[stylee]

How is deca when used by itself. I know this is an odd thing to ask, but in the past several months ive been reading several hundred pages on here. i like to think im doing my homework. Im really looking for a beginner cycle thats safe. Dbol by itself is safe , but the gains are hard to keep.

You could cycle dbol at 35 mg a week for six weeks and run test cyp at 400 mgs a week for 10 weeks then clomid , and also having novadex on hand just incase.

I dunno, I have read so much stuff on here that scares me a lot, sides, the possibility of really screwing up your body, which i dont wanna do. Im 6'1 195, and have been training for a year, which IMO isnt that much experience , but i believe that i have the training and diet knowledge , that it warrants me to be able to think about a cycle.

At this point , i think ive read so much and talked to so many people, it can be hard to really make sense of it all at times, im lookingt for a little insight.

Thanks, Brett.

[Shankerr]

You just turned 20, right? Wait a bit mate! I was over 21 when I started.. Though it doesn;t sound like much of a difference, it can make all the difference in the world when you're talking about drugs.

Now, as far as using deca on its own. I have heard any number of things both ways on the topic. The main drawback seems to be the possibility of temporary impotence (temporary, like until you go off and your natural test levels recover)

However, some people have very good luck just using deca alone. I think its kind of a trial and error thing. No one can really predict how you'll respond just from talkin to ya. At 400mg of deca a week, if you start to see impotence as a problem, then just add in a bit of test with it (enanthate perhaps?) and it should clear up the problem.

Ideally, I'd say use 400mg/wk deca and 400-500mg/wk of test, it'll work way better for ya and avoid the "deca dick" possibility!

Anyone want to add anything that I missed..??

[stylee]

btw lol, tomorow feb 23 is my 21 b day, so happy birthday to me....

[tony touch]

first cycle? 500 mg of test for 10 weeks is all you need for another 20 lbs of weight on ya

[juiceworld]

deca is good on it's own.. you will need about 400-600 mg a week and stay on it for atleast 8-12 weeks ... adding some dballs will be a good stack just to start

[Tadger]

You don't want to use nandrolone, much less alone. ST and I have made plenty of anti-nandrolone posts. Run a few searches and you'll find plenty of reasons to avoid the stuff.

[Hellrazor]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by stylee

[B] Dbol by itself is safe , but the gains are hard to keep.

You could cycle dbol at 35 mg a week for six weeks and run test cyp at 400 mgs a week for 10 weeks

I wouldn`t exactly say it was " safe " to take dianabol and I would only do a short cycle as well maybe 4 weeks instead of 6. Think about getting some ALA and / or milk thistle especially if you`re doing it for six weeks.

I would go with what Tony touch said and just run a test only cycle 250 - 500mg a week, a lot safer than 6 weeks d/bol.

Just my thoughts.

[Tadger]

Well, test should always be the base of your cycle. If this is yoru first cycle I'd go 400-500mg/wk for 8weeks. You can run dbol if you want... I'd toss it in at the end... or just run it straight through if you want.

week 1-8 test enanthate 400-500mg/wk
week 5-10 dbol 25-30mg/day
week 1-13 anastrozole .5mg EOD or letrozole 1.25mg EOD
week 11-13 clomid 25-50mg/day

That's my recommendation.