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Narcissus
03-18-2003, 08:11 PM
finally decided to start one of my own...

Sleep
12 hours. 4 urination breaks. break at 8 hours for meal#1. i prefer 10, but my body begged me for 2 extra. i think the 2 extra negatively affected my workout today.

Food
Meal#1:
2 cans solid white albacore tuna
1 bowl special k redberries cereal
1 bowl apples&cinnamon oatmeal
2 waffles with syrup
1 ultra slim-fast shake (chocolate)
12 oz orange juice
12 oz milk (in cereal)
50 oz water

Meal#2:
2 spiced and grilled chicken breasts
3 cups (cooked) brown rice
4 slices velveeta mexican cheese (in rice)
50 oz water

Meal#3
5 breaded, baked chicken tenderloins w/ hooters hot sauce
1 plate full (about 3 servings) baked french fries covered with extra sharp cheddar cheese and mozzarella
50 oz water

Meal#4
1 double cheese-burger on white sesame bun
-12 oz ground sirloin
-4 slices provolone cheese
1 plate full (about 3 servings) french fries w/ hot sauce
20 oz cranberry juice
60 oz water

Meal#5 (post-workout)
1 protein shake w/ blueberries, bananas, 2 scoops meal replacement, 1 scoop protein
1 ultra slim-fast shake (chocolate)

Meal#6
16-20 oz top sirloin wrapped w/ 2 slices prosciutto
2 large twice baked potatos w/ garlic and four cheeses
60 oz water

Meal#7
20 baked buffalo wings (all drummettes)
1 bowl (3 servings) velveeta shells&cheese
12 oz milk
60 oz water

Meal#8
2 polly-o mozzarella string cheese
1 bowl cinnamon spice oatmeal
1 ultra slim-fast shake (chocolate)
20 oz water

Workout
barbell rows
45x20
135x15
225x15
315x15
405x12, 315x6, 225x12, 135x12 (drop-set)
t-bar rows
*i do these with an olympic bar wedged into a corner, with a dumbell as a counterweight. resistance of the bar is not included in the weight.
180x12
270x12
360x10
450x2
biangular rows
8plates x 12
12plates x 8
12plates+1person(220lbs) x 3 (this was terrible)
12plates x 8, 8plates x 6, 6plates x 6, 4plates x 7 (dropset)
straight-arm lat pushdowns supersetted w/ lat pull-downs to the rear
62.5x15, 150x10
75x15, 175x10
87.5x12, 200x7
100x10, 225x5
barbell shrugs
405x15
585x12
765x6 (grip slipped on this)
855x1 :(
855x1 :(
preacher dumbell curls (L,R) (focusing on making my left equal to my right)
40x10, 40x10
45x10, 45x8
55x3, 55x3
55x3 40x4 30x5, 55x2 30x3 (dropset)

PowerManDL
03-18-2003, 08:32 PM
That's :spam: a lot :spam: of :spam: food :spam:

the doc
03-18-2003, 08:33 PM
holy **** thats a ****ing ****load of food! :eek:

:spam::spam:

captain piddles
03-18-2003, 08:39 PM
lot of sleep too

Alex.V
03-18-2003, 09:00 PM
Yeah, damn those shrugs. BB rows were sick, and with all that lower back in there, I'm not surprised you couldn't hold it up long.

carolinagirl
03-18-2003, 09:36 PM
Yay! I'm glad you finally started your own journal.




That's some impressive eating. And lifting. :eek:

There's really nothing else to say.

rookiebldr
03-18-2003, 09:36 PM
Well it's about time we saw what we needed to aspire to become! ;) Wicked shrugs, dude. :eek:

oh and :spam:

MrWebb78
03-18-2003, 09:37 PM
thats it, were gunna have eating competitions, cuz i know i can eat more than that......my wallet just doesnt always allow it.

btw....yer a ****ing liar:)

Narcissus
03-18-2003, 09:59 PM
everybody, thanks. yes, it is alot of food. i love to eat. so it works out well.

belial, yeah, the barbell rows dropset is definitely what killed me for the rest of the workout.

rookiebldr, i was actually going for 4 reps at 855, but just did not have it in me at the end of my back workout. i'll be sure to hit it for at least 4 next tuesday.

mrwebb, you do not stand a chance. my eating skills are unparalleled. tuttut

shredder
03-18-2003, 10:35 PM
hot damn thats alot of weight ur tossin around, goodluck with the journal man
your a funny guy too,u probly knew that already haha

Budiak
03-18-2003, 10:35 PM
Amazing. My friends stood mouth agape at my eating 3500 calories a day.

It was amazing that I'd wake up in the middle of the night sometimes to have a shake that was something like 800 calories.

Anyways, I know what you mean with the extra 2 hours ****ing you up. I like to sleep from 7.5-8.5 hours, any more really messes me up. The worst is when you wake up and feel ok, like you could get up and all..but for some reason that little bastard inside of you just pulls you back into bed. Then you end up being groggy all day and you go to bed late and wake up in an alley covered in dry, crusted blood. The scary part is that the blood isnt yours.

God, I need a better wake-up strategy.

MrWebb78
03-18-2003, 10:41 PM
oh i beg to differ, when i have the resources, i could make your appetite parallel that of a 6 yr old girl....buffets pay me to go somewhere else bitch!

Narcissus
03-18-2003, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by shredder
hot damn thats alot of weight ur tossin around, goodluck with the journal man
your a funny guy too,u probly knew that already haha

thanks, it takes quite a bit of time to type up though. luckily, my diet doesnt really change from one day to the next, except for the order, so i can basically just copy and paste.

and thanks about the funniness.

Narcissus
03-18-2003, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by MrWebb78
oh i beg to differ, when i have the resources, i could make your appetite parallel that of a 6 yr old girl....buffets pay me to go somewhere else bitch!

i think you mean your appetite for a 6 year old girl.

oh, and :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

MrWebb78
03-18-2003, 10:47 PM
hey its ok, i know youre just lying on this message board to strangers to make yourself feel better

Narcissus
03-18-2003, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by MrWebb78
hey its ok, i know youre just lying on this message board to strangers to make yourself feel better

makes sense to me.

Narcissus
03-18-2003, 10:58 PM
forgot to add this in the original post. whenever i mention my weight, unless i specifically say "on the scale", it is going according to the mirror.

according to the mirror, and how i feel today, i am about 335ish.

must get big. have to get big.

rookiebldr
03-18-2003, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by Narcissus
according to the mirror, and how i feel today, i am about 335ish.

must get big. have to get big. [/B]

:omg:

kAiXuan
03-18-2003, 11:15 PM
you eat mad amounts of more food than webbster

Budiak
03-18-2003, 11:19 PM
Whatever you're both phony. Hell, I bet that I could eat both Webb AND Narc in one day.

Start the grill. I'm bulking.

AdamGberg
03-18-2003, 11:23 PM
You got any pics of before you gained all that weight and present ones? just curious...

MrWebb78
03-18-2003, 11:23 PM
open up, im stroking



lmao

MonStar
03-18-2003, 11:26 PM
Some DAMN good strength man. Talk about insane. Great to have someone like Belial to back up all your claims too because I doubt people on here would believe you man.

Keep up the hard work.

MrWebb78
03-18-2003, 11:28 PM
yeah but how credible is Belial, i hear he turns tricks for the Duke basketball team so they wont beat him up

Alex.V
03-18-2003, 11:34 PM
Hey, those women are tough. :(

Narcissus
03-18-2003, 11:40 PM
Originally posted by Budiak
Whatever you're both phony. Hell, I bet that I could eat both Webb AND Narc in one day.

Start the grill. I'm bulking.

how about i get you a spoon so you could eat my ass? :D

oh, and if you ate both me and mrwebb, i think you would be about 840 lbs :eek:

Narcissus
03-18-2003, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by AdamGberg
You got any pics of before you gained all that weight and present ones? just curious...

i do have pics before i began lifting. they are amusing. when i finish this cycle, i will post some before and after ones probably.

and did you see my question in the winstrol thread about where you work out at uf? i know alot of people down there.

Narcissus
03-18-2003, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by MrWebb78
open up, im stroking



lmao

http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/puke5.gif

Narcissus
03-18-2003, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by MonStar
Some DAMN good strength man. Talk about insane. Great to have someone like Belial to back up all your claims too because I doubt people on here would believe you man.

Keep up the hard work.

thanks. and the funny thing is, even with belial's vouching, some people still do not believe. oh well, what can you do.

Xg74
03-18-2003, 11:52 PM
I beleive ya, but just for now. ;)

Budiak
03-19-2003, 01:45 AM
how about i get you a spoon so you could eat my ass?

Have you ever seen "Alive"?

And btw, no spoon necessary. I eat zombie style.

Pup
03-19-2003, 05:55 AM
2 pages and like one posted workout, this journal has the potential to be like alex's...with proper spamming you too can be a WBB icon ;)

btw...excellent strength, when you do the tbar rows do you just grab the olympic bar bare handed or use the v-bar as a handle.

ps...hooters hot wing sauce is the food of gods :cool:

Narcissus
03-19-2003, 08:19 AM
Originally posted by Pup
btw...excellent strength, when you do the tbar rows do you just grab the olympic bar bare handed or use the v-bar as a handle.

thanks. i use the v-bar as a handle when i do them. i have tried doing it bare-handed, and it feels like i am pulling more with one side of my back than the other.

Hercule
03-19-2003, 08:24 AM
Good God man. You are just insane. YOu eat tons of food an lift even more iron. You are one strong mofo.

WillKuenzel
03-19-2003, 08:31 AM
On those t-bar rows, are you running out of room to put plates?
Also do you bring the bar more to your abs or sternum?

And eat more will ya. You aint going to get big eating like that. :p

Narcissus
03-19-2003, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by HomeYield
On those t-bar rows, are you running out of room to put plates?
Also do you bring the bar more to your abs or sternum?


yeah, the 10th plate is actually about a quarter inch off the end of the bar when i do them. it is kinda scary.
i row the handle up to just below my sternum.


Originally posted by HomeYield
And eat more will ya. You aint going to get big eating like that. :p

i know, i know. i'm trying.

MrWebb78
03-19-2003, 10:39 AM
if you run out of room for plates, you could have Belial stand and balance for more resistance, of course thatd only be adding about 95 lbs.

fuzz
03-19-2003, 11:10 AM
Do you eat any fruits or veggies?

evolu2art
03-19-2003, 11:41 AM
Yo Narc

You're small.
Yes folks everything he said in his log is accurate as I was privy to all of the workout and much of the food. And trust me he is way funnier in person than he is on the board (if that's even possible).

Anyways, Narc, since I know you live on this board, 6:30 JP and I will be at Wil Rec for quads. See you then. :D

-aed

Alex.V
03-19-2003, 01:15 PM
Oh my god. What a f*cking crowd. Get Jonathan's ass on here too. I think the screen name LittlePinkAngel is still open, he can take it.

MonStar
03-19-2003, 07:03 PM
Get a spoon and eat my a*s! LOL... I think I saw the TV show Shipmates the other day and this guy said that to his date or whatever. I remember fallin' over laughing.

Budiak
03-19-2003, 07:08 PM
Does that mean Narc is a plagiarist??

SINNER!

Magnus
03-19-2003, 08:15 PM
Hey Narc - what's your caloric intake? About 25, 30 thousand? :) Forget pics in the gym - post some of you eating! That's impressive.

MonStar
03-19-2003, 08:17 PM
LOL, pics in the gym will only help so much Narc. Trust me man, I posted pics of a 555 lbs. deadlift and guys were still a little iffy about it. Sucks that sh*t like this has to happen, but it does. I mean WBB has experienced a few bullsh*tters---so these steps are a must.

Maybe get some pics in the gym of your heaviest lifts, etc.

Keep up the hard work man.

Alex.V
03-19-2003, 08:23 PM
I don't think it's a must. I can call his lifts legit. There are enough board members here in NC who could come check it out for themselves if they're curious. There's no "must" about it. Believe what you want.

Budiak
03-19-2003, 08:28 PM
Maybe I can take some shots when I'm on the east coast this summer.

Hey guys..wanna go work out? I can just ride on your back. WIth a big red ball in your mouth.


buhZING!

Narcissus
03-19-2003, 10:04 PM
fuzz: only if they are unattended. sometimes with breakfast i will have fruits such as mango, kiwi, cantalope. normally, i do not.\

monstar, budiak: that is a quote from stiffler from american pie 2.

monstar: listen to belial.

budiak: i don't think so tuttut .

Narcissus
03-19-2003, 10:19 PM
Sleep
8 hours. bleh. 3 urination breaks.

Food
Meal#1:
2 cans solid white albacore tuna
1 bowl special k redberries cereal
1 bowl cinnamon spice oatmeal
2 waffles with syrup
1 ultra slim-fast shake (chocolate)
12 oz orange juice
12 oz milk (in cereal)
50 oz water

Meal#2:
2 spiced and grilled chicken breasts
3 cups (cooked) brown rice
4 slices velveeta mexican cheese (in rice)
50 oz water

Meal#3
5 breaded, baked chicken tenderloins w/ hooters hot sauce
1 plate full (about 3 servings) baked french fries covered with extra sharp cheddar cheese and mozzarella
50 oz water

Meal#4
1 double cheese-burger on white sesame bun
-12 oz ground sirloin
-4 slices provolone cheese
1 plate full (about 3 servings) french fries w/ hot sauce
20 oz cranberry juice
60 oz water

Meal#5 (post-workout)
1 protein shake w/ strawberries, bananas, 2 scoops meal replacement, 1 scoop protein
1 ultra slim-fast shake (chocolate)
1 polly-o mozzarella string cheese

Meal#6
6 oz top sirloin
12 baked buffalo wings (all drummettes)
1 spiced and sauteed chicken breasts
1 bowl (3 servings) velveeta shells&cheese
30 oz Lemon-Lime Gatorade
40 oz water

Meal#7
20 baked buffalo wings (all drummettes)
2 large baked potatos, mashed with Jalapeno Jack Cheese & Creole Seasoning
12 oz milk
60 oz water

Meal#8
2 polly-o mozzarella string cheese
1 bowl banana bread oatmeal
1 ultra slim-fast shake (chocolate)
20 oz water

Workout
i worked quads and calves today. the patella tendonitis in my left leg had me in absolute agony. definitely no squatting today. i did:
12 sets (each leg) on single-leg leg extensions
5 sets double-leg leg extensions
7 sets leg press
0 sets squats :(
4 sets adductors supersetted w/ abductors
4 sets standing calf raises
hopefully tomorrow my quads will be more sore than my patella tendon.

Today's Reflections
a cramp in your lat hurts more than a cramp in any other part of your body. earlier today, while showering, i made a futile attempt at washing my ass. while reaching behind, my left lat cramped from the origin to the insertion. it was pure, unadulterated excruciating pain. tears welled up in my eyes as i lay pressed against the shower wall trying to figure out how i was going to finish my shower.
i said fuk it. i figured if i stood there long enough, sufficient water would have flowed down my crack to leave me fresh for the rest of the day.
cramps suck.

carolinagirl
03-19-2003, 10:43 PM
I'm sure this is a stupid question. Don't incinerate me.

But...how the hell do you not get fat? It seems like there's a limited number of calories than can be used (burned or used for muscle growth) and the rest would be stored as fat. (And I do know about the thermic effect of food, etc - additionally, I'm sure that the chewing alone is a form of light cardio. :D) But it just seems...well, weird that anyone can eat that much and not get fat too.

Also, how do you have time to do anything else besides eat and work out? It seems like eating that much would be a full time job in itself, let alone cooking it all and, god forbid, going to the grocery store.

The mind boggles.

rookiebldr
03-19-2003, 10:49 PM
Wings, cheese, burgers... I want to bulk like that! :(

Narcissus
03-20-2003, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by carolinagirl
I'm sure this is a stupid question. Don't incinerate me.

But...how the hell do you not get fat?


that is why i drink the slim-fast - to keep an eye on my girlish figure :D


Originally posted by carolinagirl
Also, how do you have time to do anything else besides eat and work out?

i eat very swiftly. i prepare things during the morning to bring with me to class each day. meals 3, 4, and 5 are usually eaten on campus. the sirloin/baked potato meal normally takes about a half hour to prepare. it is all worth it.

must get big. have to get big.

MrWebb78
03-20-2003, 01:10 AM
yeah the more slim fasts you drink the leaner you get! lol

Narcissus
03-20-2003, 01:12 AM
exactly. just don't let girls know about this secret. they need to keep their heads in the toilet and learn the hard way. haha.

:angel:

Budiak
03-20-2003, 02:16 AM
Seriously. I hear slim fast is up to 42 dollars a barrel.

I'm feeling it at the pump too, bro.

MonStar
03-20-2003, 08:35 AM
I don't think it's a must. I can call his lifts legit. There are enough board members here in NC who could come check it out for themselves if they're curious. There's no "must" about it. Believe what you want.

Awesome point Belial, and I didnt even think of that at all. There really should be no reason for questioning especially if such a respected member like yourself can testify to every word.

Regardless, keep up the eating Narc---training looks ace too.

Pup
03-20-2003, 08:43 AM
Once again props on your eating exploits.

Since you spam alex's journal, i figure i'll rant in yours ;)

This bullsh!t about everyone challenging everyone else's stats, lifts, natural status, etc is ridiculous. If you are lying about yourself to make you feel more like a man, then you got some serious fukking issues. Alex shouldn't even have to back the man up, if he says he lifts something, then he probably does, if he wants to show pics of himself, then he will, he doesn't have to prove a goddamn thing to anyone. Sorry to vent here, but i've had all i can take of this calling people out ****.

evolu2art
03-20-2003, 09:23 AM
I would just like to note that Narc is the MOST impressive eater I have ever seen. Not simply for the shear quantity of food that he consumes (an amount that would make most dinosaurs proud) but the speed at which he consumes it. The man is a walking gullet. On Fri and Sat we get free 20 oz meal replacement shakes from our friend at the gym and Narc will down both of his (Yes, two for a total of 40 or so oz) in somewhere near the range of 30 sec. The reason it takes him so long is simply because he usually pauses for about 16 sec after finishing the first shake to starting the second :eek: I don't want to say it's impressive but it is.

The best, and most entertaining part is that when he finishes one of his shakes (after all 7 sec it took him to drink it) and it's dripping off his face he looks as though he had been in front of MrWebb after he finished stroking.
tuttut tuttut tuttut tuttut tuttut tuttut tuttut tuttut

Later guys,
-aed

BCC
03-20-2003, 10:09 AM
ur such a lier dewd no way n e one can eat that much fewd or those waits, punk

Pup
03-20-2003, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by BigChaseyChase
ur such a lier dewd no way n e one can eat that much fewd or those waits, punk

tuttut

...perhaps chase would like to be on moderation for a while :evillaugh

Alex.V
03-20-2003, 10:18 AM
And the best part is, he always has food for guests. Can't beat that.

WillKuenzel
03-20-2003, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by Belial
And the best part is, he always has food for guests. Can't beat that. That's it! I'm coming for a visit.

galileo
03-20-2003, 10:29 AM
If I ate like that for one day, I'd look like Louie Anderson.


Except less gay...



...and ugly...



...and gay.

PowerManDL
03-20-2003, 11:34 AM
The gay part is the most important!

Magnus
03-20-2003, 03:36 PM
LMAO at Galileo! Narc 2 quick questions: what's your deadlift? And do you play football for Duke?

Narcissus
03-20-2003, 07:41 PM
pup: i agree with your rant.

evolu2art: you disgust me.

magnus: i only do stiff-legged deads. last saturday i got 495 for a double. this week i am going for 3 or 4. no, i do not play football for duke. i would rather tell my dad i was a cheerleader.

carolinagirl
03-20-2003, 07:46 PM
Your dad would undoubtedly rather have you be a cheerleader.


(Which, incidentally, is an amusing mental picture. :D)

Narcissus
03-20-2003, 08:01 PM
Sleep
11 hours. 4 urination breaks. break at 8 hours for meal#1. as an aside, when i woke up this morning at 8 hours, i felt terrible. very sore throat, cramped legs (luckily my patella tendon feels okay), and my sack was almost glued to my thighs. when i re-awoke at 11 hours, i felt just about the same, although my sack had managed to free itself from the clutches of my inside thighs.

Food
Meal#1:
2 cans solid white albacore tuna
1 bowl special k redberries cereal
1 bowl apples&cinnamon oatmeal
1 bagel w/ strawberry smuckers
1 ultra slim-fast shake (chocolate)
12 oz orange juice
12 oz milk (in cereal)
50 oz water

Meal#2:
2 spiced and grilled chicken breasts
3 cups (cooked) brown rice
4 slices velveeta mexican cheese (in rice)
50 oz water

Meal#3
5 breaded, baked chicken tenderloins w/ hooters hot sauce
1 plate full (about 3 servings) baked french fries covered with extra sharp cheddar cheese and mozzarella
50 oz water

Meal#4
1 double cheese-burger on white sesame bun
-12 oz ground sirloin
-4 slices american cheese
-3 slices bacon
1 plate full (about 3 servings) french fries w/ hot sauce
20 oz cranberry juice
60 oz water

Meal#5 (post-workout)
1 can solid white albacore tuna
2 ultra slim-fast shake (chocolate)
1 polly-o mozzarella string cheese

Meal#6
16 oz top sirloin
2 large baked potatos, mashed with Jalapeno Jack Cheese & Creole Seasoning
60 oz water

Meal#7
12 baked buffalo wings (all drummettes)
1 bowl (3 servings) velveeta shells&cheese
15 oz milk
60 oz water

Meal#8
2 polly-o mozzarella string cheese
1 bowl banana bread oatmeal
1 ultra slim-fast shake (chocolate)
20 oz water

Workout
Military Barbell Press to the Rear
45x20
135x15
225x8
275x2
225x6, 115x4, 45x15 (dropset)
Arnold Dumbell Press
80s x 12
90s x 6 (bad grip)
100s x 7
110s x 3, 55s x 8 (dropset)
Lateral Dumbell Raises supersetted w/ Alternating Anterior Dumbell Raises
40s x 12, 40s x 8
50s x 12, 50s x 6
60s x 9, 60s x 5
70s x 6 - 50s x 6 - 40s x 6 - 30s x 5 - 20s x 7, 70s x 3 - 50s x 4 - 40s x 6 - 30s x 5 - 20s x 8 (dropset)
Upright Rows supersetted w/ Rear Delt Flyes
135x10, 35s x 8
135x10, 35s x 8
185x8, 35s x 5
225x4, 35s x 3
Incline Dumbell Presses (chest)
80s x 12
90s x 12
100s x 10
110s x 3

Today's Reflections
seeing alex (belial) deadlift was ridiculous. only 2 more inches and he would have owned 650. on a much more sad note, i am finding it extremely difficult to reach my ass. i have no idea what i will do when i get to 350lbs. i do not want that "not so fresh" feeling. :(

rookiebldr
03-20-2003, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by Narcissus
... on a much more sad note, i am finding it extremely difficult to reach my ass. i have no idea what i will do when i get to 350lbs. i do not want that "not so fresh" feeling. :(

You might want to consider a harem. They could also help unglue that sack during the night, sort of two stones with one... :D

MrWebb78
03-20-2003, 09:23 PM
awesome strength narc, but your comments are still more amusing, i still laugh daily at the "leather doughnut" remark

Alex.V
03-20-2003, 09:28 PM
The leather doughnut remark will live on for quite some time.

Narc, you got one of those removable shower heads? Just kinda pop it between the legs and aim up on the "pulse" setting. Just, uh, don't turn it up too much. Still, that might do it. I know this girl who says that works wonders. Not for cleaning, though.

bradley
03-21-2003, 05:34 AM
must get big. have to get big.

Doesn't seem like this will be a problem.

Nice workouts, and a very entertaining journal to say the least.

carolinagirl
03-21-2003, 10:55 AM
Man. Somebody's got it in for you. I asked in Diet for a science-y kind of explanation of how you could partition all those calories into muscle growth instead of fat storage (I had to ask there because you declined to theorize tuttut, giving me instead some twaddle about slimfast; while amusing, it was hardly enlightening. :mad: ;) ) Anyway, first some dumbass started dissing you and then the thread got locked.

Sheesh. My threads never get locked. :angel:
Is this guilt by association? Am I now tarred with the Narcissus brush, simply because I bought my prayer rug?

Narcissus
03-21-2003, 11:10 AM
belial: no i do not. i am very much considering purchasing one now though.

bradley: thanks.

CG: i saw that thread. i figured i would not even bother. i figure there is no point in me keeping up this charade. i should just come clean. although i do consume 10k calories a day, i also have a serious problem with bulemia. i figure i probably keep in about 1k per day. i am very afraid of getting fat. i will attach a picture from about 2 weeks ago, when me and mrwebb were resting between sets. i know - i do look fat in this picture, and mrwebb looks severely bloated, but i am working on it. :(

WillKuenzel
03-21-2003, 11:14 AM
lmao, dude lose some weight. Your face is still fat.

question: why did you do incline bench with all that?

Narcissus
03-21-2003, 11:20 AM
i have gotten in the habit of doing 1 exercise for chest on delts/traps day. i think it is helping alot. i want my chest to be absurd.

belial, you should post and say what you saw when i flexed my chest yesterday.

Alex.V
03-21-2003, 12:00 PM
You mean the fact that your chest sticks straight out? As in, you could probably rest a f*ckin plate on it at this point? At least 3.5" of horizontal movement before the muscle even thinks of sloping down. ridiculous.

Narcissus
03-21-2003, 12:03 PM
:D

evolu2art
03-21-2003, 12:06 PM
Yeah, but no matter how sick your chest looks it's nowhere near mine in terms of beauty, as you yourself often point out.

-aed

MrWebb78
03-21-2003, 12:08 PM
i asked you not to put that pic of us up!!! lmao @ the pic

Narcissus
03-21-2003, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by evolu2art
Yeah, but no matter how sick your chest looks it's nowhere near mine in terms of beauty, as you yourself often point out.

-aed

that is because i do not have striations running from side to side, top to bottom, and every other direction like you do....


...yet

Narcissus
03-21-2003, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by MrWebb78
i asked you not to put that pic of us up!!!

i know - you look very bloated in that picture. maybe if you had the same dedication i do, you would lose some of that water weight. besides, it is a very flattering picture of me.


Originally posted by MrWebb78
lmao @ the pic
:D you should have seen the sick ass sh!t i came across before i found that one.

Budiak
03-21-2003, 01:14 PM
Hey I saw a documentary about you guys once in my film history class.

Alex.V
03-21-2003, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by Narcissus


that is because i do not have striations running from side to side, top to bottom, and every other direction like you do....


...yet

Maybe once you get as skinny, I mean, lean as him.

;)

Narcissus
03-21-2003, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by Budiak
Hey I saw a documentary about you guys once in my film history class.

you better get on the phone with your teacher and tell her to send my ass some royalties.

carolinagirl
03-21-2003, 09:54 PM
Wow. You're even handsomer than I imagined.


(MrWebb, however, is ass-ugly.) (;))





I wasn't doubting you, btw. (In fact, I'm very, very hurt that you would even think such a thing.) I just want to know how it works, physiologically speaking. I guess I'll just have to resign myself to the 'genetic freak' explanation, because that's about as intellectually sophisticated as it got.

rookiebldr
03-21-2003, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by carolinagirl
I wasn't doubting you, btw. (In fact, I'm very, very hurt that you would even think such a thing.) I just want to know how it works, physiologically speaking. I guess I'll just have to resign myself to the 'genetic freak' explanation, because that's about as intellectually sophisticated as it got.

I for one thought you had ask a very provocative question. But as was indicated, it got degenerated so quickly that your original question really did get lost.

MrWebb78
03-21-2003, 10:22 PM
hey now IM ass ugly??? my feelings are crushed by the woman i love!!!

rookiebldr
03-21-2003, 10:23 PM
I guess you need to take a better picture.

Alex.V
03-21-2003, 10:25 PM
Dude, y'all DO realize I saw her first.

MrWebb78
03-21-2003, 10:25 PM
nah, im ugly, just didnt know ppl were so brutally honest, figured they could at least lie a lil bit

Narcissus
03-21-2003, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by carolinagirl
(MrWebb, however, is ass-ugly.) (;))


that is why he is not looking directly at the camera. i did not want him fukking up my sh!t.


Originally posted by carolinagirl
I wasn't doubting you, btw. (In fact, I'm very, very hurt that you would even think such a thing.) I just want to know how it works, physiologically speaking. I guess I'll just have to resign myself to the 'genetic freak' explanation, because that's about as intellectually sophisticated as it got.

yes, i knew that thread would not last long. that is among the reasons why i did not even offer a reply. i guess i can make an attempt at answering your question though. before 2 weeks ago, i was eating about 7500-10000 calories a day, normally on the lower end of that range. i suppose "genetic freak" could somewhat explain how i was able to assimilate such a large portion of those calories as muscle rather than fat. from what i have been told by some amateur bodybuilders and exercise physiologists whom i know, is that it is possible that my body may remain in a positive nitrogen balance much longer than the average person's, thus allowing for a longer window for protein synthesis (which, of course, requires a significant number of carbohydrates and other nutrients).

i have only begun eating at least 10000 a day since i began my cycle. the drugs will surely help me synthesize a much larger amount of nutrients than normal by even further extending the window during which my body is in a positive nitrogen balance (among the many fun things that drugs do :D ) .

also, consideration must be taken for the amount of calories that are necessary each day purely for maintenance. hopefully, this is the answer that you seek.

Narcissus
03-21-2003, 11:22 PM
Sleep
10 hours. 4 urination breaks. break at 8 hours for meal#1.

Food
Meal#1:
2 cans solid white albacore tuna
1 bowl special k redberries cereal
1 bowl cinnamon spice oatmeal
2 waffles with syrup
1 ultra slim-fast shake (chocolate)
12 oz orange juice
12 oz milk (in cereal)
50 oz water

Meal#2:
2 spiced and grilled chicken breasts
3 cups (cooked) brown rice
4 slices velveeta mexican cheese (in rice)
50 oz water

Meal#3
5 breaded, baked chicken tenderloins w/ hooters hot sauce
1 plate full (about 3 servings) baked french fries covered with extra sharp cheddar cheese and mozzarella
50 oz water

Meal#4
1 double cheese-burger on white sesame bun
-12 oz ground sirloin
-4 slices provolone cheese
1 plate full (about 3 servings) french fries w/ hot sauce
20 oz cranberry juice
60 oz water

Meal#5 (post-workout)
2 protein shakes w/ peaches, strawberries, 2 scoops meal replacement, 2 scoops protein

Meal#6
5 breaded, baked chicken tenderloins w/ hooters hot sauce
1 plate full (about 3 servings) baked french fries covered with extra sharp cheddar cheese and mozzarella
60 oz water

Meal#7
2 Cookies and Cream Protein Bars (designer, and promax)
1 ultra slim-fast shake (chocolate)
60 oz water

Meal#8
20 baked buffalo wings (all drummettes)
1 bowl (3 servings) velveeta shells&cheese
12 oz milk
60 oz water

Workout
standing ez-bar curls
*i am not sure of the exact weight of the bar. the consensus is 15lbs though, so that is what i will go by
15x20
105x12
155x10
195x4
195x5, 65x15 (dropset)
standing alternating dumbell curls
50s x 12
60s x 10
70s x 8
80s x 5, 50s x 6, 40s x 4, 30s x 5, 20s x 8 (dropset)
preacher dumbell curls (L,R)
45x10, 45x10
55x5, 55x5
55x4, 55x4
65x3, 65x3
spider curls with ez-bar supersetted w/ dumbell concentration curls
65x10, 25x6
65x9, 25x8
65x7, 25x4
v-bar tricep push-downs
*the stack stops at 200. i use pinned-on plates and stacked-up dumbells to get sufficient weight
100x15
200x15
245x15
290x15
350x8
390x4 :eek:
ez-bar lying skullcrushers - narrow grip
105x15
155x8
195x2
105x15
underhand tricep push-downs supersetted w/ single handed overhand push-downs
130x12, 60x10
160x10, 60x10
180x6, 70x8
200x4, 70x6
Today's Reflections
i am breathtaking. while posing between sets, i caught my eyes in the mirror. i stepped closer, and peered deep into my eyes. i was enchanted by me. it was simply amazing.

kAiXuan
03-22-2003, 12:06 AM
your way too cool















post a pic

evolu2art
03-22-2003, 12:13 AM
Wow that is the most vain thing I have ever read. Had I not actually been witness to Narc staring at the mirror, and then staring at the mirror some more, and then for good measure taking another good long stare - all from about an inch away, I would think that Narc's pathological lying side had once again taken hold ;) ;) ;)

The 390 was absolutely sick on V-bar pressdowns. I hit 340 and felt like a frat boy, you know small annoying and taking up a machine, next to Narc.

For MrWebb, you said you needed more weight on your leg presses. You should do what Narc and I do, steal a pin from another machine and pin on whatever weight you choose. Once you have maxed this out start adding d=bells on top. When this gets to be unsafe take apart the machine with a wrench (ie what Narc had to do in order to get all 390 together) and leave it apart in order to piss off the annoying weight room monitor that plays smooth R&B (my god I want to hug someone somebody please :shoot: ME), and the gym manager that thinks Belial makes too much noise when he deadlifts and gives him (after Belial has done something weak like 600 lbs) some pansy ass deadlifting instructions from 1950.

(And no, we hold no resentment to the people working in our gym ;) ;) ;) ;) )

later,
-aed

heathj
03-22-2003, 03:41 AM
what's your calorie total for the day?

Narcissus
03-22-2003, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by heathj
what's your calorie total for the day?

at least 10,000/day. but, apparently, i may be lying. so who really knows ???

Pup
03-22-2003, 11:09 AM
You lie about everything :rolleyes: when you're 300 ripped and win the olympia you can tell all the doubters to go fcuk themselves.

kook
03-22-2003, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by Narcissus

Today's Reflections
i am breathtaking. while posing between sets, i caught my eyes in the mirror. i stepped closer, and peered deep into my eyes. i was enchanted by me. it was simply amazing. [/B]

haaa, that's classic, i do that 8 times a day too, just not at the gym..

MrWebb78
03-22-2003, 11:26 AM
add weight to the leg extension.....you dont expect ME to take advice fromsomeone who is well....bigger and stronger....yeah ok i guess ill be doing that then!

heathj
03-22-2003, 03:35 PM
How do you afford all that food? goddamn.

aka23
03-22-2003, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by Narcissus
Sleep
10 hours. 4 urination breaks. break at 8 hours for meal#1.


All of the numbers in your training log sound quite impressive, including the number of urination breaks per night. You might want to mention this to a doctor. This many urination breaks can be symptom of several medical issues including prostate problems, diabetes, bladder problems, thyroid problems, or taking certain medications. Then again it might just be caused by drinking a lot of water before you go to bed and at each time you wake up.

Narcissus
03-22-2003, 06:51 PM
aka23: i drink about 2-3 gallons of liquids per day. that explains the frequency of urinations.

pup: once again, i agree.

heathj: i shop at costco and i make good money bouncing. btw, your avatar is incredible.

Narcissus
03-22-2003, 07:03 PM
Sleep
9 hours. 4 urination breaks.

Food
Meal#1:
2 cans solid white albacore tuna
1 bowl special k redberries cereal
1 bowl apples&cinnamon oatmeal
1 ultra slim-fast shake (chocolate)
12 oz orange juice
12 oz milk (in cereal)
50 oz water

Meal#2:
2 spiced and grilled chicken breasts
3 cups (cooked) brown rice
4 slices velveeta mexican cheese (in rice)
50 oz water

Meal#3
4 fried buffalo wings
4 potato skins w/ cheese, chives, and bacon bits
4 fried mozzarella cheese sticks w/ marinara sauce
2 pieces garlic bread
10 oz filet mignon wrapped in bacon
1 large baked potato w/ sour cream, chives, bacon, cheese

Meal#4
2 protein shakes w/ peaches, strawberries, 2 scoops meal replacement, 2 scoops protein

Meal#5 (post-workout)
5 breaded, baked chicken tenderloins w/ hooters hot sauce
1 bowl (3 servings) velveeta shells&cheese
60 oz water

Meal#6
2 cookies and cream promax bars
1 ultra slim-fast shake (chocolate)
40 oz water

Meal#7
2 cookies and cream promax bars
1 ultra slim-fast shake (chocolate)
20 oz water
12 oz cranberry juice

Meal#8
10 baked buffalo wings (all drummettes)
1 plate tortilla chips w/ jalapeno jack cheese
12 oz milk
60 oz water

Workout
stiff-legged deadlifts
45x10
135x10
225x10
315x8
405x5
495x3 *this was absolutely insane. 1 month ago my max was 405x2
lying leg curls
200x12
245x10
285x8
325x7
standing leg curls (L,R)
125x10, 125x10
150x9, 150x9
200x7, 200x7
225x4, 225x4
sitting calf-raises supersetted w/ standing calf raises
just went as many reps as possible back-to-back until i had done 5 sets on each exercise
Today's Reflections
the 495x3 on stiff-legs was incredible. the pain was immense. i am amazing. belial's bicep vein is ridiculous. evolu2art's hamstrings are absurdly thick. my chest is red (but at least it is not pale). my eyes are beautiful. my balls are shrinking.

Alex.V
03-22-2003, 07:18 PM
The 495 was sick. ROM was excellent too. We did nothing on that last one, just made sure the rack was straight.

I still gotta rib you about actually caring how much weight you were doing on the standing leg curls. I thought you'd be content lifting the pink dumbbells if they'd make you huge. ;)

Narcissus
03-22-2003, 07:37 PM
yes, well, the only reason i cared about the weight was because of evolu2art's sh!t-talking.
you should tell the audience why you have so much trouble drinking your shakes.

carolinagirl
03-22-2003, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by Narcissus
... hopefully, this is the answer that you seek.

Why, yes. Yes, it is. Thank you.

Narcissus
03-22-2003, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by carolinagirl


Why, yes. Yes, it is. Thank you.

wow, i was kinda hoping that your next response would be longer than that :(

Pup
03-22-2003, 07:45 PM
Excellent SLDL bro...that's some sick weight.

carolinagirl
03-22-2003, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by Narcissus


wow, i was kinda hoping that your next response would be longer than that :(

Aw. I'm actually supposed to go out tonight and I was trying to hurry and get dressed. But I think I changed my mind - I'm ditching out on the plans and staying home instead. Girl is tired.

So, let's talk some more about you. :D



I had already taken into account your enormously high BMR (due to your super-colossal bulk), and the thermic effect of the food itself. I guess your leptin is probably at flood levels all the time too, from 3 straight years of eating like a one-man plague of locusts; leptin has a lot to do with partitioning. The protein synthesis thing makes some sense, but I still can't see how it would explain it completely.

I'm pretty sure that's because I just don't understand the science well enough; I've only recently gotten interested in the physiological effects of food and supplements on the hormonal systems, and I don't really have a handle on the big picture. (I admit, I tend to skim all the 'PPAR-alpha receptor' and 'rate-limiting lipolytic enzyme' stuff because I don't know enough about the basic workings of the endocrine system to contextualize the studies within a larger logical framework. So I get frustrated and skip ahead to the conclusions.) (I knew I should have paid more attention in my science classes. :mad: )

Anyway, I guess there's no way to really know for sure unless somebody takes a cross-section of you and runs a bunch of tests.




OK, was that long enough for you? (Sheesh, you're a demanding minor deity, aren't you? It's not enough that I'm on the ****ing prayer mat five times a day already - now my posts have a minimum length requirement? What the hell is next?)

(And, before you even ask - I categorically and absolutely decline to assist you in any way with your recent ass-washing dilemma.)

rookiebldr
03-22-2003, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by Narcissus
spider curls with ez-bar supersetted w/ dumbell concentration curls

Narcissus, what are spider curls? I guessing that you don't really have more limbs then us mere mortals ;) so these must still be done by your upper limbs.

:eek: to your tri pushdowns. Not that I want to brag how weak I am, but that is almost 4 ****ing times what I did today? :cry:


Originally posted by Narcissus
Today's Reflections
i am breathtaking. while posing between sets, i caught my eyes in the mirror. i stepped closer, and peered deep into my eyes. i was enchanted by me. it was simply amazing.

And you still managed to pull yourself away to finish your workout, now that is amazing. :D :D :cool:


Nice SLDL's dude. At the rate of improvement on those, you'll be SLDLing more than Belial deadlifts. :)

evolu2art
03-23-2003, 12:21 AM
Rookiebldr,

The spider curls to which Narc refers are preacher curls that we do, except they are done over the flat side of the preacher curl bench with our chests on the angled part. We take the seat out (again, us taking apart gym equipment) in order to do this. Seems to hit our bi's very well we feel.

-aed

Magnus
03-23-2003, 01:52 AM
You Duke guys should have a strongman compeition and post the pics. That would be fantastic. Magnus puts his money on Belial in the Atlas stones, thinking that Narc will be too tempted to eat them if he is short on calories for the day.

Nice SLDL's - you got the 495....is 500+ coming next week? :)

Reinier
03-23-2003, 01:55 AM
and of course you go to all heights to bring out that bicep peak

Narcissus
03-23-2003, 02:13 AM
Originally posted by Reinier
and of course you go to all heights to bring out that bicep peak
:confused:

Narcissus
03-23-2003, 02:16 AM
Originally posted by Magnus
You Duke guys should have a strongman compeition and post the pics. That would be fantastic. Magnus puts his money on Belial in the Atlas stones, thinking that Narc will be too tempted to eat them if he is short on calories for the day.

Nice SLDL's - you got the 495....is 500+ coming next week? :)

i would eat mine, and then kick belial in the kneecap and eat his. problem solved. i win.

yeah, i am going for 545x1 next saturday.

Narcissus
03-23-2003, 02:18 AM
Originally posted by rookiebldr

And you still managed to pull yourself away to finish your workout, now that is amazing. :D :D :cool:


Nice SLDL's dude. At the rate of improvement on those, you'll be SLDLing more than Belial deadlifts. :)

it was quite tough to tear myself away from the mirror, but it was only because i knew i would be waiting for me when i finished my workout.

i really, really doubt that i will be anywhere near belial's sumo weight on my stiff-legs.

Narcissus
03-23-2003, 02:26 AM
Originally posted by carolinagirl

So, let's talk some more about you. :D


my favorite subject! woo-hoo :D well, me, and boyshorts (which, if you do not have them, i highly recommend you purchase a few pairs. they are spectacular.)


Originally posted by carolinagirl

Anyway, I guess there's no way to really know for sure unless somebody takes a cross-section of you and runs a bunch of tests.


absolutely not tuttut tuttut


Originally posted by carolinagirl

OK, was that long enough for you? (Sheesh, you're a demanding minor deity, aren't you? It's not enough that I'm on the ****ing prayer mat five times a day already - now my posts have a minimum length requirement? What the hell is next?)


yes, much better, thanks :)


Originally posted by carolinagirl

(And, before you even ask - I categorically and absolutely decline to assist you in any way with your recent ass-washing dilemma.)
:cry: :cry: :cry:

kAiXuan
03-23-2003, 02:36 AM
narc, doesnt it suck waking up that many times durning the night?

Narcissus
03-23-2003, 02:39 AM
Originally posted by kAiXuan
narc, doesnt it suck waking up that many times durning the night?

ALOT. every night, especially on nights of back workout and leg workouts, i go through a personal battle debating whether or not i want to just wet the bed and lie there in my urine or wriggle my ass out from under my comforter and head for the toilet. so far, i have not chosen to wet my bed. but, now that i am closing in on 350, it is hard to tell what the future holds for me.

kAiXuan
03-23-2003, 02:43 AM
jesus christ bro, i would hook up a bag and hose

Narcissus
03-23-2003, 02:45 AM
Originally posted by kAiXuan
jesus christ bro, i would hook up a bag and hose
i am still working on the schematics.

kAiXuan
03-23-2003, 02:48 AM
use one of those aquarium hoses and some duct tape

Narcissus
03-23-2003, 02:50 AM
:eek:
granted, i shave my sack, but regardless - there is NO WAY IN HELL i would want to get duct tape anywhere near my balls :cry:

Reinier
03-23-2003, 02:53 AM
in hospitals they have these objects for that like a plastic box with a hole it in to put your penis in. you can keep it within reaching range from the bed.

kAiXuan
03-23-2003, 02:57 AM
145lbs gained. 21 years. Naturally. You are twice my size.

kAiXuan
03-23-2003, 02:58 AM
But I still have you beat in the one measurement you cant increase :D

McBain
03-23-2003, 05:04 AM
http://www.geocities.com/lambed_kr/invention.html

heathj
03-23-2003, 05:27 AM
You can call me Heath...heathj sounds so weird...anyway...Yeah I love costco, it has such f*cking good prices there. Greatest place to shop anytime. Yes I love my avatar, it treats me well in case I don't bring home that special lady. I just log onto wbb and...well, yeah.

Narcissus
03-23-2003, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by McBain
http://www.geocities.com/lambed_kr/invention.html

i definitely do not think i would fit on that contraption.

Narcissus
03-23-2003, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by kAiXuan
But I still have you beat in the one measurement you cant increase :D

:rolleyes:

Behemoth
03-23-2003, 02:38 PM
Nice strength man. Do you compete in either bodybuilding or powerlifting? And you weight about 350 these days? Whats your BF%?

Narcissus
03-23-2003, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by Behemoth
Nice strength man. Do you compete in either bodybuilding or powerlifting? And you weight about 350 these days? Whats your BF%?

my goal is to compete in bodybuilding. that is what i am preparing for. not 350 yet, i feel just under 340 right now. i should be 350 by the end of next week though. i have never had my BF measured, but my guess, and that of many others, is right around 20%.

Narcissus
03-23-2003, 02:48 PM
Sleep
11 hours. 4 urination breaks. i didn't wake up for meal#1 today. instead, i woke up, rubbed one out, and went back to sleep.

Food
Meal#1:
1 wild-berry cheesecake promax bar
1 bowl special k redberries cereal
1 bowl banana bread oatmeal
1 ultra slim-fast shake (chocolate)
12 oz orange juice
12 oz milk (in cereal)
50 oz water

Meal#2:
12-16 oz top sirloin
1 bowl (3 servings) velveeta shells&cheese
60 oz water

Meal#3
12 fried chicken tenderloins w/ hot sauce
1 serving fried okra
2 servings french fries
6 cheddar cheese stuffed fried jalapenos
60 oz water

Meal#4
12-16 oz top sirloin
1 large potato, mashed w/ jalapeno jack cheese and creole seasoning
60 oz water

Meal#5
12 fried chicken tenderloins w/ hot sauce
1 bowl (3 servings) velveeta shells&cheese
6 cheddar cheese stuffed fried jalapenos
60 oz water

Meal#6
2 ultra slim-fast shakes
1 cookies&cream promax bar
12 oz milk
60 oz water

Meal#7
tba

Workout
on the seventh day, i rest.

Today's Reflections
my throat is still sore. :(

captain piddles
03-23-2003, 03:16 PM
I wish I could eat like you,

chomp on brother!

carolinagirl
03-23-2003, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by Narcissus
i didn't wake up for meal#1 today. instead, i woke up, rubbed one out, and went back to sleep.

Who sez men have problems with intimacy and communication? Pshaw.

You're a born sharer. (your jerking-off habits, the size of your poops, the annoying propensity of your nut-sack to stick to your thigh during sleep, your struggle with that 'not-so-fresh feeling'...I might have missed a couple, but you see the trend here.)


It's - it's almost like a Hallmark commercial.

*sniffles a little*




I feel very close to you right now.

bradley
03-23-2003, 04:51 PM
I agree the journal does seem to cover a lot, which does make for an entertaining read. I would just like to compliment you on your massive eating capabilities and also do you ever get hungry between meals?

Narcissus
03-23-2003, 04:52 PM
i am hungry every waking moment of the day.

Narcissus
03-23-2003, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by carolinagirl
your jerking-off habits
:D
it has been amplified at least 2-fold since i began 2 weeks ago. in fact, right now, even looking at the blinds on my window could give me an erection.

Originally posted by carolinagirl
the size of your poops
:eek:

Originally posted by carolinagirl
the annoying propensity of your nut-sack to stick to your thigh during sleep
:mad:
it is the worst when both are freshly shorn.

Originally posted by carolinagirl
your struggle with that 'not-so-fresh feeling'
:(
not a laughing matter.

Originally posted by carolinagirl

I feel very close to you right now.
and i haven't even discussed how long i can (apparently) hold my breath.

:angel:

carolinagirl
03-23-2003, 05:05 PM
Are the blinds wearing boyshorts?

Narcissus
03-23-2003, 05:07 PM
i wish!
edit: i tried spanking the blinds. it is just not the same.

SWOLE
03-23-2003, 07:13 PM
how tall are you?

AJ_11
03-23-2003, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by Narcissus


my goal is to compete in bodybuilding. that is what i am preparing for. not 350 yet, i feel just under 340 right now. i should be 350 by the end of next week though. i have never had my BF measured, but my guess, and that of many others, is right around 20%.

Before you started training. What were your stats. How old are you anyways. I think that we shold rename this forum wannabenarc.com

Narcissus
03-23-2003, 08:03 PM
swole: 6'0".

AJ_11: the first day i went to the gym, which was mid-april in the year 2000, i was 181 lbs. i was probably about 11-13% bodyfat. i was 18 (now 21).
wannabenarc.com - that is kinda catchy.

rookiebldr
03-23-2003, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by Narcissus

Today's Reflections
my throat is still sore. :(


tuttut Gods are not allowed to be sick.







Sorry to hear about your throat, this is going to make it difficult to eat all that you do.

Magnus
03-24-2003, 02:08 AM
Haha! Narc if you are 340 20% you should just jump on the Olympia stage and take this year's title. That's almost 275 LBM you are carrying around. Just call up Coleman and Cutler and all those midgets and tell them not even to show up. If that's the case this forum really needs to be renamed wannabenarc.com. Maybe it should be anyway...

Narcissus
03-24-2003, 07:47 AM
magnus: don't forget to factor in water weight.

rookie: eating won't be a problem. it does make sleeping alot worse though.

WillKuenzel
03-24-2003, 08:15 AM
Are you coughing too? The best stuff to take for a dry cough and sore throat is delsym. Its a cough medicine that can be bought at pretty much any pharmacy. I swear by the stuff as its good and doesn't make you drowsy either.

When do you plan on doing your first competition? Another year or later this year?

FFeJ
03-24-2003, 10:04 AM
what kind of weight were you pushing around when you first started ?

Magnus
03-24-2003, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by Narcissus
magnus: don't forget to factor in water weight.



What are you carrying about 30 lbs. of water weight!? :)

David
03-24-2003, 03:03 PM
Hey, Big Fella, how does one become part of the Narc-Belial-Mr.Webb gang?

Do I have to be gay or do I just start lying about everything that I do? ;) ;)

EdgeCrusher
03-24-2003, 03:22 PM
Have you/will you be cutting to get rid of that 20% body fat anytime soon?

rookiebldr
03-24-2003, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by evolu2art
Rookiebldr,

The spider curls to which Narc refers are preacher curls that we do, except they are done over the flat side of the preacher curl bench with our chests on the angled part. We take the seat out (again, us taking apart gym equipment) in order to do this. Seems to hit our bi's very well we feel.

-aed

Thanks evolu2art. lol, Now put-backs (TM) will need to include gym equipment as well.

steveo
03-24-2003, 05:48 PM
My God,! You eat a lot. I can't believe that, I wish I had enought money to buy that much food. I'm broke at hel and I'm getting buy on eggs, oats, rice and tuna until pay day.
So are you going to post a picture so we can see what all that food has done.

kAiXuan
03-24-2003, 06:02 PM
narc, how long does it usually take to eat on your average big ass meal?

Narcissus
03-24-2003, 07:15 PM
kaixuan: 20 minutes max. normally 10-15.

steveo: who knows.

edgecrusher: no, i need to get big first.

magnus: i am sure there is a decent amount.

FFej: let me try to remember some numbers. only one i know for sure is that my max bench was 65lbs for 1 rep on day 1, three years ago. i think my tricep v-bar pushdown was about 70. barbell row was 65, for 3 or 4 reps. standing dumbell alternating curl was 20lbs for maybe 5 reps per side. any other exercises, throw it out, and i will do my best to recall what i was using when i started.

you have to keep in mind though, i had never been a physical person at all. i did aikido for 9 years, but that is a very graceful martial art, which does essentially nihil for muscle mass and strength (when performed correctly).

Narcissus
03-24-2003, 08:23 PM
Sleep
8 hours. 2 urination breaks. bleh.

Food
Meal#1:
2 cans solid white albacore tuna
1 bowl special k redberries cereal
1 bowl apples&cinnamon oatmeal
1 ultra slim-fast shake (chocolate)
12 oz orange juice
12 oz milk (in cereal)
50 oz water

Meal#2:
2 spiced and grilled chicken breasts
3 cups (cooked) brown rice
4 slices velveeta mexican cheese (in rice)
50 oz water

Meal#3
1 double cheese-burger on white sesame bun
-12 oz ground sirloin
-4 slices provolone cheese
1 plate full (about 3 servings) french fries
20 oz cranberry juice
60 oz water

Meal#4
8 fried chicken tenderloins
1 ultra slim-fast shake (chocolate)
1 big grab ruffles potato chips
30 oz water

Meal#5 (post-workout)
2 ultra slim-fast shake (chocolate)
1 honey peanut promax bar

Meal#6
16-20 oz top sirloin
2 large baked potatos w/ cheeses and bacon bits
60 oz water

Meal#7
tba

Meal#8
2 polly-o mozzarella string cheese
1 bowl cinnamon spice oatmeal
1 ultra slim-fast shake (chocolate)
20 oz water

Workout
incline barbell press
45x20
135x15
225x10
315x2
375xnotevenfukkinclose
flat dumbell press
80s x 13
110s x 6
110s x 7
110s x 6, 60s x 10 (dropset)
decline barbell press
205 x 12
225 x 8
275 x 3
295 x 2
cable flyes from the top supersetted w/ cable flyes from the bottom
70x15, 40x12
80x13, 50x10
90x12, 50x9
100x10, 60x7
rope press-down supersetted w/ single-handed pushdowns
130x15, 60x12
150x12, 100x8
160x12, 90x10
180x10, 100x7
today's reflections
if you are seemingly pathetic enough in an email, you will get a 1-day extension on your paper. :)
anthony's (evolu2art) chest looks absolutely absurd, now that it is not blindingly pale. probably a good 1 inch thick, with striations running the gamut from inside to outside.

fuzz
03-24-2003, 08:27 PM
Are you being serious about these starting numbers? I mean, typical newbs to weight training can at least do something like the quarters for bench. It just sounds like you started out really ..weak...of course, you obviously must have some of the best genetics for lifting possible.

Thats assuming this is true, which its not, since you, and belial, and everyone else is in on a massive conspiracy.


Originally posted by Narcissus

FFej: let me try to remember some numbers. only one i know for sure is that my max bench was 65lbs for 1 rep on day 1, three years ago. i think my tricep v-bar pushdown was about 70. barbell row was 65, for 3 or 4 reps. standing dumbell alternating curl was 20lbs for maybe 5 reps per side. any other exercises, throw it out, and i will do my best to recall what i was using when i started.

you have to keep in mind though, i had never been a physical person at all. i did aikido for 9 years, but that is a very graceful martial art, which does essentially nihil for muscle mass and strength (when performed correctly).

Alex.V
03-24-2003, 08:57 PM
I started around the same numbers just over 2 years ago. I disagree that most newbies can do the quarters.

fuzz
03-24-2003, 09:03 PM
Huh, guess I'm just going off my experience. Its hard to remember what I could bench when I started, but I think it was at least the quarters for a few reps.

Narcissus
03-24-2003, 09:10 PM
but were you ever athletic at all? participated in elementary or middle school sports. anything like that. see, i never did anything.

fuzz
03-24-2003, 09:13 PM
What was your self esteem and self image like when you started lifting?

Narcissus
03-24-2003, 09:22 PM
i was just as arrogant and narcissistic then as i am now. actually, i probably had a better self-image then, since that was before i developed a "body dysmorphia disorder".

i was alot less angry though.

AJ_11
03-24-2003, 09:31 PM
I am not doubting you or anything, I just want to see the sheer size of you. I think that you have this whole bourd intrigued. And your only 21. WOW. Great accomplishments.

Alex.V
03-24-2003, 09:39 PM
Nice inclines!

You tried 375? lol. Why the hell not, right?

heathj
03-24-2003, 09:44 PM
My first max on bench a few years back was like 85 or so...

Narcissus
03-24-2003, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by Belial
Nice inclines!

You tried 375? lol. Why the hell not, right?

well, i thought i was trying 365 - but anthony's stupid ass put a 35 on the right side instead of a quarter. i actually am surprised i held it pretty decently on the way down, and got a good 2 inch push from the bottom.

i am expecting to get 365 within 2 weeks.

Narcissus
03-24-2003, 09:57 PM
heath - by the way, do you know who the woman is in your avatar, and do you have the full-size picture?

EdgeCrusher
03-24-2003, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by Narcissus

i was alot less angry though.

heh, that's funny, because i have found working out making me angrier and angrier every day. there's a plethora of things that just piss me off now that I am cutting pretty well. And I don't take anything that would make me do it too.

Example: I was waiting for a certain machine for cardio and this fat kid with clothes that scream "I stopped in on my way from school/the ice cream shop" (as in, jeans and long sleeve shirt and just horrible clothing in general) was on it. Granted, 7 other people were on the 7 other machines, but that kid made me so mad that he was wasting my time with his oh-so-apparent half-assed workout. See? Look how angry I am! :)

anyways, when will you start cutting and to what?

Narcissus
03-24-2003, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by EdgeCrusher
anyways, when will you start cutting
when i get big.

Originally posted by EdgeCrusher
and to what?
to look ridiculous.

John0101
03-24-2003, 10:34 PM
Why do you want to be so big? I'm sorry but your larger then 99.9 percent of the people out there. In many ways it's sick and scary.

Escape01
03-24-2003, 11:18 PM
I am another one of Narcissus' workout partners. I just happened to stumble upon the soundtrack to his life the other day:

Christina Aguilera - "I am Beautiful"
Tupac - "All Eyes On Me"
John Mayer - "My Body is a Wonderland"
Shania Twain - "I'm Still The One"
Divinyls - "(When I think about me) I Touch Myself"
Nine Inch Nails - "I Wanna **** Me Like an Animal"
Commodores - "Stuck On Me"

Anyway, thought you guys might be curious...

kAiXuan
03-24-2003, 11:29 PM
this is just out of hand. post a pic with you and belials ugly ass.

rookiebldr
03-24-2003, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by Escape01
I am another one of Narcissus' workout partners. I just happened to stumble upon the soundtrack to his life the other day:

Christina Aguilera - "I am Beautiful"
Tupac - "All Eyes On Me"
John Mayer - "My Body is a Wonderland"
Shania Twain - "I'm Still The One"
Divinyls - "(When I think about me) I Touch Myself"
Nine Inch Nails - "I Wanna **** Me Like an Animal"
Commodores - "Stuck On Me"

Anyway, thought you guys might be curious...

Well, based on Matt's posts thus far, I'd believe it. :D :D And so we have the trio + Alex. Seeing as this is your first post, welcome to the site, Escape01.

Narcissus, nice chest day.

Narcissus
03-25-2003, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by John0101
Why do you want to be so big? I'm sorry but your larger then 99.9 percent of the people out there. In many ways it's sick and scary.

you wouldn't understand.

WeakSauceAsian
03-25-2003, 02:55 AM
This will sound mildly race related.

Okay it's race related.

Are either of you guys asian? (belial or narcissus).

Because I haven't seen too many huge asians in my life and wish (no wait, no i don't)... end of incomplete thought.

You are huge. I secretly suspect you are that big black guy with ronnie's face photoshopped on it.

WeakSauceAsian
03-25-2003, 02:57 AM
I started at a <85 lb bench too, gained about 60 lbs lean mass in a few years.

heathj
03-25-2003, 04:26 AM
ummm...i believe i do, but i cannot find out until i get back to school on sunday.

chris mason
03-25-2003, 06:13 AM
Originally posted by WeakSauceAsian
This will sound mildly race related.

Okay it's race related.

Are either of you guys asian? (belial or narcissus).

Because I haven't seen too many huge asians in my life and wish (no wait, no i don't)... end of incomplete thought.

You are huge. I secretly suspect you are that big black guy with ronnie's face photoshopped on it.

Ever watch Sumo Digest on ESPN?

John0101
03-25-2003, 10:51 AM
Narc, if your not going to put up a picture of yourself (assuming your avatar isn't you), then you should atleast put up a picture of all the food you eat! Just reading what you eat makes me hungry :nod:

Narcissus
03-25-2003, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by WeakSauceAsian
Are either of you guys asian? (belial or narcissus).


nope. i'm white (full-blooded german). belial is pink and purple striped. i think he is some sort of new, evolved teletubbie.

Narcissus
03-25-2003, 11:37 AM
john0101, weaksauceasian: trust me, the avatar is not me. here it is in full-size.

MrWebb78
03-25-2003, 12:12 PM
Narc...do you suffer from "bigorexia"(i think thats what its called), when you look in the mirror you see a small guy in the refelction?


btw, i admire the consistency in your diet, thats the one thing I really lack, if i could string together a couple months of consistent eating, id make you look like Belials penis.......small

Narcissus
03-25-2003, 12:19 PM
yes, that is what the doctor told me. not about belial's penis, about me having bigorexia. and, although i see a small guy in the mirror, that small guy is fukkin breathtaking.

btw, where the fuk have you been?

edit: you have missed some funny stuff.

MrWebb78
03-25-2003, 12:50 PM
Belials ex informed me about his penis, as i had her bent over a chair...

ive been out and about, ran away from home for a weekend lol, briefly wrote about it in my own journal.

and ive been readin the last few days, not fair that your journal is funnier than mine, and twice as big already.

Alex.V
03-25-2003, 12:54 PM
You are obsessed with my genitalia. Stop sending me PM requests for pics. And this reverse psychology won't work either.

Narc is as white as they come. I am latino.

David
03-25-2003, 01:16 PM
Speaking of pics, could I have an autographed pic of You, Narc?

You know, so when you become Mr. Olympia I can sell it and buy some protein powder?;) ;)

Narcissus
03-25-2003, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by TripleP
Speaking of pics, could I have an autographed pic of You, Narc?

You know, so when you become Mr. Olympia I can sell it and buy some protein powder?;) ;)

that was so sweet! :cry:

Pup
03-25-2003, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by TripleP
Speaking of pics, could I have an autographed pic of You, Narc?

You know, so when you become Mr. Olympia I can sell it and buy some protein powder?;) ;)

Suck him off a little harder next time tuttut

Narcissus
03-25-2003, 03:29 PM
ha ha.

BCC
03-25-2003, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by Narcissus

belial is pink and purple striped. i think he is some sort of new, evolved teletubbie.

lol.

Narcissus
03-25-2003, 07:49 PM
Sleep
10 hours. 3 urination breaks. break at 8 hours for meal#1.

Food
Meal#1:
2 cans solid white albacore tuna
1 bowl special k redberries cereal
1 bowl apples&cinnamon oatmeal
2 waffles with syrup
1 ultra slim-fast shake (chocolate)
12 oz orange juice
12 oz milk (in cereal)
50 oz water

Meal#2:
2 spiced and grilled chicken breasts
3 cups (cooked) brown rice
4 slices velveeta mexican cheese (in rice)
50 oz water

Meal#3
1 cheese-burger on white sesame bun
-8 oz ground beef
-2 slices cheddar cheese
-2 strips bacon
1 plate french fries w/ ranch dipping sauce
40 oz water

Meal#4
1 double cheese-burger on white sesame bun
-12 oz ground sirloin
-4 slices provolone cheese
1 plate full (about 3 servings) french fries w/ hot sauce
20 oz cranberry juice
60 oz water

Meal#5 (post-workout)
4 oz strawberry/banana protein shake
2 ultra slim-fast shakes (chocolate)
1 chocolate caramel crunch promax bar
30 oz water

Meal#6
2 chicken breasts, spiced and sauteed in olive oil
2 large potatos, mashed w/ creole seasoning and jalapeno jack cheese
80 oz water

Meal#7
2 chicken breasts, spiced and sauteed in olive oil
2 large potatos, mashed w/ creole seasoning and jalapeno jack cheese
60 oz water

Meal#8
2 polly-o mozzarella string cheese
1 bowl cinnamon spice oatmeal
1 ultra slim-fast shake (chocolate)
20 oz water

Workout
barbell rows
45x20
135x15
225x15
315x15
405x12, 315x10, 225x12, 135x15 (drop-set) :D
t-bar rows
*i do these with an olympic bar wedged into a corner, with a dumbell as a counterweight. resistance of the bar is not included in the weight.
180x15
270x12
360x12
450x3
biangular rows
8plates x 12
12plates x 10
12plates+1person(205lbs) x 4
12plates+2persons(205lbs,120lbs) x 2 :eek:
straight-arm lat pushdowns supersetted w/ lat pull-downs to the rear
75x15, 150x10
87.5x12, 200x7
100x10, 250x4
112.5x8, 250x3
barbell shrugs
405x15
585x12
765x7
855x3 :eek:
21s w/ ez-bar
65x21
85x21
95x21
105x21
Today's Reflections
i hurt. alot. back workout today was absolutely sick. i want a weight boy. i should not be expected to put weights on the bar (or machine), lift the weight, and then unrack the weight. that is asking far too much.

Isaac Wilkins
03-25-2003, 07:53 PM
You could have an apprenticeship program. After a year of moving your weights, they can start lifting.

Or you could pull a Dennis James and pay a small Thai man to do it.

;)

Alex.V
03-25-2003, 07:55 PM
**** yeah. Way to own the 855.

You gotta show me the T-bar setup you do... I may give that sh*t a try. At the very least, I gotta see you moving that weight. Nice workout, bro.

kook
03-25-2003, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by Narcissus
Sleep
straight-arm lat pushdowns supersetted w/ lat pull-downs to the rear
75x15, 150x10
87.5x12, 200x7
100x10, 250x4
112.5x8, 250x3

Today's Reflections
i hurt. alot. back workout today was absolutely sick. i want a weight boy. i should not be expected to put weights on the bar (or machine), lift the weight, and then unrack the weight. that is asking far too much.

straight arm lat pushdowns? what is it exactly all im thinking is arms straight out and pressing some weight down like you're flapping your wings around? and how the f do you do pulldowns to the rear when your that big? you got 100lbs on me and my shoulders wont let me do em

and your f'in hilarious

Narcissus
03-25-2003, 08:12 PM
kook: straight arm lat pushdowns go like this - standing at the lat pulldown machine, put your arms out and grab the pull-down bar, at about shoulder width apart. keep your arms locked out, and bring the weight straight down. you can either do this with a slight bend in your lower back, or standing completely straight. if you are bent over slightly, they target the insertion of your lat near your waist, and your lower traps and rhomboids. if you opt for being completely erect (my choice), it targets upper lat thickness, teres major and minor, and the supra- and infraspinatus. and thanks - i should be a stand-up comic.

belial: i'll show you, as long as you agree to take that weird floating triangle thing off the top of your head.

borris: we were actually talking about how dennis james has his own weight boy. i was thinking, if the 3 of us pool our money, we should have enough to purchase a midget.

Hercule
03-25-2003, 08:20 PM
I'm no midget, but I would be honored to be your and Belial's weight boy:).

kook
03-25-2003, 08:21 PM
ok i know what your talking about now.. but now this has me thinking of my first thought. say stand in the middle of a cable rack... each arm straight to the side..palms down press cable till arms are by your side? kinda like gymnysts on the those handles on rope do this and lift themselves up..

WeakSauceAsian
03-25-2003, 08:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by WeakSauceAsian
This will sound mildly race related.

Okay it's race related.

Are either of you guys asian? (belial or narcissus).

Because I haven't seen too many huge asians in my life and wish (no wait, no i don't)... end of incomplete thought.

You are huge. I secretly suspect you are that big black guy with ronnie's face photoshopped on it.

Ever watch Sumo Digest on ESPN?

Thanks for the help as always mason.

Glad you've changed your moniker from the "bull**** detector", I like "tired of arguing" alot more - makes it sound like you don't think you're all knowing.

Almost like a nice guy.

...

...

...

Sumos were not what I meant. I run into large, powerful fat people all the time - I meant people who have seen single digit bf% or larger (Narcissus) people who are on their way to heavyweight competition.

Sorry for the :spam: Narc.

Budiak
03-25-2003, 10:06 PM
Velveeta is most certainly not Mexican.

Furthermore, if you are to continue posting it, you really should change it to Velveeta 'Latin American' cheese.

bradley
03-26-2003, 05:35 AM
Man that back workout is sick:eek:

Do you have to use straps on any of those exercises?

Pup
03-26-2003, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by Budiak
Velveeta is most certainly not Mexican.

Furthermore, if you are to continue posting it, you really should change it to Velveeta 'Latin American' cheese.

Lemme clean this up for ya Narc ;)

Budiak...you pansy politically correct liberal windbag, take your latin american cheese and firmly shove it up your ass.

EdgarMex
03-26-2003, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by Budiak
Velveeta is most certainly not Mexican.

Furthermore, if you are to continue posting it, you really should change it to Velveeta 'Latin American' cheese.


I don't see anything wrong with the "Mexican" part (though Velveeta is certainly not Mexican, youc an't find a Velveeta product here if your life depended on it). Furthermore, I refuse to be referred as Latin American, I don't find amusing the idea of being mistaken for an Argentinian or Colombian.


Nice way to start posting in your journal, huh, Narc? Anyway, I have been reading it for a while, and like other guys said, just reading about your meals makes me hungry. And those workouts are something else. Good job, dude

Mik
03-26-2003, 10:46 AM
Narc, how exactly do you have your t-bar setup, grip etc.....

Narcissus
03-26-2003, 07:47 PM
bradley: yes, i use straps on almost all of them. my back is much, much stronger than my grip. and i am not a powerlifter. i don't care about how strong my grip is. with 17 inch forearms, it doesn't matter too much. :)

everybody else, i will be back after i eat.

leg workout was not so good. tendonitis killed me after leg presses. :(

Budiak
03-26-2003, 08:17 PM
Pup, I'd lay into you if I didnt have this anti-white protest to attend on Cesar Chavez day for which I must prepare with my Latino studies group.



Racists.

David
03-26-2003, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by Pup


Lemme clean this up for ya Narc ;)

Budiak...you pansy politically correct liberal windbag, take your latin american cheese and firmly shove it up your ass.

I've got one word for you.

No, wait. Wait!

Actually two words!

Smegma anyone?

:eek: :eek: :eek:

And Narc, I can't believe how big your ego...er, I mean journal, is!

Unbelievable!

Oh, yeah, and answer my "gang" question that's like two pages back!



:)

powerhalf
03-26-2003, 09:36 PM
Hi narc, and let me join everyone else in saying that your diet and strength ****ing rule! But I have a question for you.
You've said several times that you're getting into bodybuilding rather than powerlifting. It's clear that you could have huge success in either field, but what influenced your decision to take the bodybuilding route rather than the PL route?

Alex.V
03-26-2003, 09:38 PM
Because powerlifters are too pretty.

Narcissus
03-26-2003, 09:43 PM
Originally posted by Belial
Because powerlifters are too ugly. matt is breathtaking

this is exactly what i was going to point out. i am too beautiful to be a powerlifter.

also, my bench is terrible. i think i would certainly do well on the pulling portion though.

Narcissus
03-26-2003, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by Budiak
Pup, I'd lay into you if I didnt have this anti-white protest to attend on Cesar Chavez day for which I must prepare with my Latino studies group.



Racists.

kill whitey!

carolinagirl
03-26-2003, 09:46 PM
Too late. I already did.

Narcissus
03-26-2003, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by Mik
Narc, how exactly do you have your t-bar setup, grip etc.....

i wedge an olympic bar into a corner, and straddle it at the back with a 110 lb dumbell. i then use a wedge handle, hook it under the bar about an inch from the edge, and row the weight with a body position exactly the same as when doing barbell rows.

Narcissus
03-26-2003, 09:49 PM
Originally posted by carolinagirl
Too late. I already did.

don't you remember that you have a minimum post length requirement in my journal?

carolinagirl
03-26-2003, 09:49 PM
Man, you're fast.\



But I bet you hear that all the time.

Narcissus
03-26-2003, 09:53 PM
tuttut

edit: this filthy stuff belongs in other people's journals.

rookiebldr
03-26-2003, 09:55 PM
Since there isn't a new workout, I'll have to comment on this one.




Originally posted by Narcissus
biangular rows 12plates+2persons(205lbs,120lbs) x 2 :eek:

barbell shrugs 855x3 :eek:

Today's Reflections
i hurt. alot. back workout today was absolutely sick. i want a weight boy. i should not be expected to put weights on the bar (or machine), lift the weight, and then unrack the weight. that is asking far too much. [/B]

I guessing the the 205 person was one of your workout partners, but it looks like you already have the weight boy. btw :eek: is right for both shugs and rows.







And now there are too many posts to even bother with additional comments here. ugh.

carolinagirl
03-26-2003, 09:55 PM
Out of bounds. (Way out.)


Plus penalty for lack of wit.


I win this one.

Narcissus
03-26-2003, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by carolinagirl
Out of bounds. (Way out.)


Plus penalty for lack of wit.


I win this one.

hey, it's late. what can i say.

Narcissus
03-26-2003, 10:00 PM
thanks jeff.

and yeah, no workout post today, because it was too pathetic. plus i am supposed to be writing another paper now. damn. :(

rookiebldr
03-26-2003, 10:06 PM
OMG, two nights in a row. You'd think you were in university or something. :D

Narcissus
03-26-2003, 10:10 PM
no reason to add insult to injury.

MrWebb78
03-26-2003, 10:57 PM
hey narc what year in college are you, whats yer major? and post that leg workout, you know i have to compare.

evolu2art
03-26-2003, 11:48 PM
MrWebb - both Narc and myself are juniors and bio majors. His bio major is actually (in his full fledged attempt to become a god that controls everything, not just wannabenarc) a concentration in genetics. He is also a German (achtung baby!) studies minor if my memory serves correct.

I myself am just a general bio major although my interests lie is evolution and complex systems. Additionally I am a visual art major (hence my name here) -- sorry I answered the question for myself, but Narc is getting too much attention around here. I feel as though some weird cult that focuses on rugs and astroglide is starting here.

-aed

Narcissus
03-27-2003, 08:20 AM
anthony: tuttut . my journal discusses me and my amazingness. you don't like it, go away. :)

mrwebb: as anthony said, bio w/ a concentration in genetics. then after i graduate next year, i am hoping to retire. if that doesn't work out for me, i want to do a PhD in genetic engineering.

Narcissus
03-27-2003, 08:21 AM
oh, and mrwebb, you don't need to compare. your quads are much stronger than mine.

chris mason
03-27-2003, 09:03 AM
Ouoted from Narc:
"i wedge an olympic bar into a corner, and straddle it at the back with a 110 lb dumbell. i then use a wedge handle, hook it under the bar about an inch from the edge, and row the weight with a body position exactly the same as when doing barbell rows."

Workout
barbell rows
45x20
135x15
225x15
315x15
405x12, 315x10, 225x12, 135x15 (drop-set)
t-bar rows
*i do these with an olympic bar wedged into a corner, with a dumbell as a counterweight. resistance of the bar is not included in the weight.
180x15
270x12
360x12
450x3


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I'm curious how you are able to get 10 45s on one side of a Olympic bar and do t-bar rows. First, the ROM would be zero, because 45s are too big around and you end up hitting your chest after moving the weight a few inches. Second, I could be mistaken here (but I am 99% sure), but I don't think there is room for 10 plates.

Pup
03-27-2003, 09:04 AM
Writing papers sucks dude...i have this english nazi prof right now that i've contemplated military pressing off a cliff, geneticist eh, you must be a smart mofo.

MrWebb78
03-27-2003, 09:17 AM
yeah i think narc is a nerd. so are all of his friends.

actually thats cool, speaking of school, i decided to do my psychology research paper on Narcissistic Personality Disorder, wanna be my subject? lol

Narcissus
03-27-2003, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by chris mason
Ouoted from Narc:

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I'm curious how you are able to get 10 45s on one side of a Olympic bar and do t-bar rows. First, the ROM would be zero, because 45s are too big around and you end up hitting your chest after moving the weight a few inches. Second, I could be mistaken here (but I am 99% sure), but I don't think there is room for 10 plates.

there is room for 9 plates and a clip, or a 10th plate with about half of the 10th one hanging off the end of the bar.

the ROM is probably about 12-15 inches. i'll check later at the gym to be sure. you have to keep in mind that, with rows, your arm length determines your range of motion (e.g. lee priest would not have as large a ROM as i do).

chris mason
03-27-2003, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by WeakSauceAsian


Thanks for the help as always mason.

Glad you've changed your moniker from the "bull**** detector", I like "tired of arguing" alot more - makes it sound like you don't think you're all knowing.

Almost like a nice guy.

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Sumos were not what I meant. I run into large, powerful fat people all the time - I meant people who have seen single digit bf% or larger (Narcissus) people who are on their way to heavyweight competition.

Sorry for the :spam: Narc.


First, does being a nice guy mean you should take everyone at their word?

Second, I think you misunderstood me, I wasn't being a smartass. Sumos are very large Asians, and they are also very powerful. Don't mistake their high bodyfat for a lack of muscular power.

Alex.V
03-27-2003, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by chris mason

Second, I think you misunderstood me, I wasn't being a smartass. Sumos are very large Asians, and they are also very powerful. Don't mistake their high bodyfat for a lack of muscular power.

Aye. You seen the legs on these guys?

WillKuenzel
03-27-2003, 10:37 AM
I've even seen a few of them do splits and stuff. Just because they got some fat don't mean they ain't athletes.

Narcissus
03-27-2003, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by Pup
you must be a smart mofo.

and thus, one of the other reasons behind my staggering arrogance.

Narcissus
03-27-2003, 08:27 PM
Sleep
9 hours. 4 urination breaks. throat still sore.
Food
Meal#1:
2 cans solid white albacore tuna
1 bowl special k redberries cereal
1 bowl apples&cinnamon oatmeal
1 bagel w/ strawberry smuckers
1 ultra slim-fast shake (chocolate)
12 oz orange juice
12 oz milk (in cereal)
50 oz water

Meal#2:
2 spiced and grilled chicken breasts
3 cups (cooked) brown rice
4 slices velveeta mexican cheese (in rice)
50 oz water

Meal#3
8 fried chicken tenderloins w/ hooters hot sauce
1 plate full (about 3 servings) baked french fries covered with extra sharp cheddar cheese and mozzarella
50 oz water

Meal#4
1 double cheese-burger on white sesame bun
-12 oz ground sirloin
-4 slices american cheese
-3 slices bacon
1 plate full (about 3 servings) french fries w/ hot sauce
20 oz cranberry juice
60 oz water

Meal#5 (post-workout)
1 shake w/ peaches, strawberries, 1 scoop meal replacement, 1 scoop protein
40 oz water

Meal#6
2 fried chicken breasts w/ hooters hot sauce
2 large baked potatos, mashed with Jalapeno Jack Cheese & Creole Seasoning
60 oz water

Meal#7
tba

Meal#8
tba

Workout
Military Barbell Press to the Rear
45x20
135x12
225x8
315x1
315x1, 225x3, 135x7, 95x8, 55x8 (dropset)
Arnold Dumbell Press
70s x 12
90s x 9 (bad grip)
110s x 2
110s x 3, 50s x 1 (dropset)
Lateral Dumbell Raises supersetted w/ Alternating Anterior Dumbell Raises
50s x 12, 50s x 6
60s x 9, 60s x 5
70s x 6, 70s x 4
80s x 5 - 50s x 6 - 40s x 6 - 30s x 5 - 20s x 7, 70s x 3 - 50s x 4 - 80s x 3 - 30s x 5 - 20s x 8 (dropset)
Upright Rows supersetted w/ Rear Delt Flyes
135x10, 40s x 8
155x10, 40s x 6
185x8, 40s x 3
225x6, 40s x 3
Super-slow flat barbell negatives supersetted w/ Cable Flyes from the top
185x4, 50s x 12
225x3, 50s x 12
275x2, 50s x 12
315x1, 50s x 12

Today's Reflections
alex hit 650 on sumos. it was absurd. carolinagirl lifted w/ him today. her lower back is absurd. she said she was convinced it was me by how filthy my mouth is. :)

carolinagirl
03-27-2003, 08:39 PM
And you're even more amazing than I ever dreamed.



Not really. ;) You are pretty ****ing huge, though.

And funny.


But don't let it go to your head.

Narcissus
03-27-2003, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by carolinagirl
Not really. ;)

that wasn't very nice.

carolinagirl
03-27-2003, 08:54 PM
Didn't you see the ;) ?


That means I was kidding.






(Not that I'm worried that your self-image couldn't withstand the blow if I weren't kidding - but I'm just nice like that.)

rookiebldr
03-27-2003, 09:22 PM
Great shoulder workout, Matt. 315 militaries! 80lb lateral raises! What are super slow flat barbell negatives? I just can't picture what you are doing here specifically to hit the delts.

Evolu2art, you may need to start your own journal to take some of the attention away from Narcissus.

Alex.V
03-27-2003, 09:29 PM
I gotta say, I was impressed with the arnolds. Form was flawless on em, that was some serious poundage to control like that, especially after the military drop set.

Isaac Wilkins
03-27-2003, 09:36 PM
Narc, I have a few questions for you.

I've been doing some research lately on over-feeding and intense training. As part of that I've been following several very large bodybuilders/powerlifters that have grown to their size from modest beginnings (~180 pounds) to 300 or more, like you, in a relatively short period of time. These individuals have gained a very large amount of muscle relative to bodyfat over that time.

I'm contemplating training a couple of my clients in this manner and potentially following some of it myself. I've turned myself into a human experiment subject at this point, and have made the best gains of my life in the past four or five months.

Here's a few questions for you, if you'd be so kind as to talk about yourself ;):

-You started training around three years ago? You stated that you were not active other than akido. What type of bodyfat were you working with? Very lean (10-12%) or mediocre?

-Have you been feeding at this level or close to it for the whole time, or have you gradually evolved into it?

-Has your training been similar to it is now for the past three years, or did you spend time casting around to find a routine that fit you?

-Have your gains been mostly linear? Given your current strength and your stated starting strengths, I'm guessing they've been quite steady. That has been the case?

-If you don't mind, how big are your wrists and ankles? Have you noticed your bone structure thickening to any degree?

Thanks for your consideration.

rookiebldr
03-27-2003, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by Belial
I gotta say, I was impressed with the arnolds. Form was flawless on em, that was some serious poundage to control like that, especially after the military drop set.

I was going to mention those as well :eek: but then I'd be eeking at all of them.

Narcissus
03-27-2003, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by Borris
-You started training around three years ago? You stated that you were not active other than akido. What type of bodyfat were you working with? Very lean (10-12%) or mediocre?

I would say probably in the 13-15% range. But to tell you the truth, i honestly do not know.


Originally posted by Borris
Have you been feeding at this level or close to it for the whole time, or have you gradually evolved into it?

For the first 6 months, i would say i was probably in the 5-7000 calories range. from 6 months til 3 weeks ago, i was in the 7500-10,000 range. and the past 3 weeks i have been 10k+.


Originally posted by Borris
-Has your training been similar to it is now for the past three years, or did you spend time casting around to find a routine that fit you?


my training, insofar as the exercises, sets, and rep range, has always been very similar to how it is now. i had some really good mentors at my gym when i first began.


Originally posted by Borris
Have your gains been mostly linear? Given your current strength and your stated starting strengths, I'm guessing they've been quite steady. That has been the case?

strength gains have been mostly linear. chest was stagnant for quite some time, but continued to grow (fine with me). everything is going up rapidly now though. :D drugs, the 9th wonder of the world. (i, of course, am numero uno - and then the normal 7).


Originally posted by Borris
If you don't mind, how big are your wrists and ankles? Have you noticed your bone structure thickening to any degree?

no idea about the wrists and ankles. now would not be a good time to measure them, both are quite bloated.

any more questions?

Isaac Wilkins
03-27-2003, 10:21 PM
Awesome. Thanks for responding.

I may come up with some more questions, but these will do for now. I have a few interesting ideas, and pieces keep falling in to place.

K-Daddy
03-27-2003, 10:27 PM
This journal is teh best evar.

Just wanted to chime in and say that I admire, among other things, your consistency in training and diet. I think that's probably one of the most underappreciated things in any very serious (as in not just recreational, "for health," or to go to the gym on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday night only, do arms and chest, so you can better fill out your form-fitting shirt that you call your "club attire" purposes) bodybuilder's lifestyle. I'm sure it's not a big thing to you as you've adjusted but it's something I lack, so it's something that I do really admire.

Keep up the good work chief! *pat on rear*

carolinagirl
03-27-2003, 10:46 PM
Ooooh. You just got the man butt-pat.


Sweet.





And yes, each one of these guys is big enough to need his own journal space. Evolu2art and Escape01 should both start journals. :D

WillKuenzel
03-28-2003, 09:15 AM
Keep up the good work chief! *pat on rear*Uh-oh, MrWebb is going to get jealous. :D

chris mason
03-28-2003, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by Borris
Narc, I have a few questions for you.

I've been doing some research lately on over-feeding and intense training. As part of that I've been following several very large bodybuilders/powerlifters that have grown to their size from modest beginnings (~180 pounds) to 300 or more, like you, in a relatively short period of time. These individuals have gained a very large amount of muscle relative to bodyfat over that time.

I'm contemplating training a couple of my clients in this manner and potentially following some of it myself. I've turned myself into a human experiment subject at this point, and have made the best gains of my life in the past four or five months.

Here's a few questions for you, if you'd be so kind as to talk about yourself ;):

-You started training around three years ago? You stated that you were not active other than akido. What type of bodyfat were you working with? Very lean (10-12%) or mediocre?

-Have you been feeding at this level or close to it for the whole time, or have you gradually evolved into it?

-Has your training been similar to it is now for the past three years, or did you spend time casting around to find a routine that fit you?

-Have your gains been mostly linear? Given your current strength and your stated starting strengths, I'm guessing they've been quite steady. That has been the case?

-If you don't mind, how big are your wrists and ankles? Have you noticed your bone structure thickening to any degree?

Thanks for your consideration.


Do tell, which natural bodybuilders have done this with a relatively low bodyfat percentage?

MrWebb78
03-28-2003, 10:23 AM
he has lost all of his natural status claims, he is now a drug abuser:)

and no im not jealous of the rear patting, i know where i stand when its just me and Narc, one on one.

rookiebldr
03-28-2003, 10:29 AM
Originally posted by carolinagirl
And yes, each one of these guys is big enough to need his own journal space. Evolu2art and Escape01 should both start journals. :D

Hell yeah, more to spam.

Narcissus
03-28-2003, 11:03 AM
borris: no problem.

k-daddy : thanks. and, unless you are a hot chick, stay away from my ass.

CG: tuttut

homeyield: tuttut

mrwebb: tuttut

mason: just curious what it is that you consider a relatively low bodyfat %, and why you haven't responded to the questions i answered. additionally, i knew you read my journal. i am irresistable.