Madd Hatter
03-31-2003, 01:18 PM
I'm 6'2" 199lbs 24 year old lanky guy. I'm trying my first cycle ever, with One+, moderate dosing. I'm also trying GVT with it, the first time I've ever tried something so high-volume. I'm posting this 1) for my own record 2) to provide info for other curious newbs 3) to get guidance along the way.
Today was my first day. Woke up and applied 7 runny squirts over various places and rubbed it in w/ gloves. Seemed dry in a couple minutes. Waited a couple hours and went to the gym. Enough time?
10x10 Decline DB Bench - figured 55's as about my 60% 1RM/20 rep max. Made first 3 sets with a little more effort than I thought it should have been. Got to 6 on my 4th, figured I better bring it down. Used 50's for the rest, but never reached the full 10 reps (5-7). Arms just wouldn't push through, when I cheated to get them up there, I couldn't lower under control and grazed my chest. Ok, no 55's next time. 50's? 45's??
10x10 parallel grip chins - figured 12 plates assist as my starting point. Again first few sets made, then hit a brick wall. Went to 14 plates assist but still never hit 10 reps in a set. Also didn't feel it in my back much (never do). Tried looking up and putting elbows out, helped slightly. What else can I do?
I figure my inability to complete the sets with a weight I SHOULD have been able to stems from my lack of endurance. During HST, 15's were always a total bitch. 20 rep sets are always hell. I can't run a mile in under 8.5 minutes. I don't know if the One+ will kick in by next time either. Help on weights to use next time?
3x10 incline flys and db rows - done easily enough.
In the shower I noticed a slight soreness in my upper arms, outside/side chest, but not much else chest/back wise. Since I never get sore, I tried not to let it bum me too much. Slight burning (not like muscle, like skin burning) over upper chest/shoulders. An application site, but only after all that time? Kinda odd. Not uncomfortable in any way.
Tomorrow is leg (and abs) day. I'll do second app of One+ a little before bed, then again when I wake up, then hit the gym a couple hours after that, unless someone tells me that's not ok. I'm also wondering how I'm to know if this stuff is "working" or "getting in there", since the only sure-fire way is getting sides.
If there's interest, I can post my diet, and I do have before pics if this turns out to do any good (I'm naturally skeptical, I've never responded to anything before, and haven't progressed much period in a couple years).
Today was my first day. Woke up and applied 7 runny squirts over various places and rubbed it in w/ gloves. Seemed dry in a couple minutes. Waited a couple hours and went to the gym. Enough time?
10x10 Decline DB Bench - figured 55's as about my 60% 1RM/20 rep max. Made first 3 sets with a little more effort than I thought it should have been. Got to 6 on my 4th, figured I better bring it down. Used 50's for the rest, but never reached the full 10 reps (5-7). Arms just wouldn't push through, when I cheated to get them up there, I couldn't lower under control and grazed my chest. Ok, no 55's next time. 50's? 45's??
10x10 parallel grip chins - figured 12 plates assist as my starting point. Again first few sets made, then hit a brick wall. Went to 14 plates assist but still never hit 10 reps in a set. Also didn't feel it in my back much (never do). Tried looking up and putting elbows out, helped slightly. What else can I do?
I figure my inability to complete the sets with a weight I SHOULD have been able to stems from my lack of endurance. During HST, 15's were always a total bitch. 20 rep sets are always hell. I can't run a mile in under 8.5 minutes. I don't know if the One+ will kick in by next time either. Help on weights to use next time?
3x10 incline flys and db rows - done easily enough.
In the shower I noticed a slight soreness in my upper arms, outside/side chest, but not much else chest/back wise. Since I never get sore, I tried not to let it bum me too much. Slight burning (not like muscle, like skin burning) over upper chest/shoulders. An application site, but only after all that time? Kinda odd. Not uncomfortable in any way.
Tomorrow is leg (and abs) day. I'll do second app of One+ a little before bed, then again when I wake up, then hit the gym a couple hours after that, unless someone tells me that's not ok. I'm also wondering how I'm to know if this stuff is "working" or "getting in there", since the only sure-fire way is getting sides.
If there's interest, I can post my diet, and I do have before pics if this turns out to do any good (I'm naturally skeptical, I've never responded to anything before, and haven't progressed much period in a couple years).