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aidano
03-31-2003, 03:06 PM
Do you include your post-workout simple sugars in your daily calorific intake?

Seems to me that if I have about 60g of dextrose along with protein in water - so say about 350 calories - after a workout and include that in my daily account of foods eaten, it makes going past my calorific goal for the day far too easy.

ryan1117
03-31-2003, 03:08 PM
I count everything that goes into my mouth.

raniali
03-31-2003, 03:55 PM
why wouldn't u count your post w/o calories?

the only thing that i don't count is the chocolate i eat (it doesn't count ;) )

MrWebb78
03-31-2003, 04:00 PM
include everything you eat, if this meal takes you past your daily alloweance, then lighten up on other meals.

aidano
03-31-2003, 04:02 PM
Because I'm trying to get around 1900 calories per day, and with post workout calories included I'd have to starve myself to hit that target!

edit:

Ok, well in that case I'd better stock up on the lettuce..

Tiare
03-31-2003, 04:04 PM
I suggest you eat more frequently, and maybe your caloric intake is too low, especially if you find it difficult to keep the calories down.

shouldn't be starving.

ryan1117
03-31-2003, 04:05 PM
I was just wondering why you are only going for 1900 calories. I'm pretty much the same as you, only an inch shorter and my mainteance level is around 3000. Do you have a slow metabolism or somthing?

bradley
03-31-2003, 04:18 PM
1900 cals sounds low IMO for a 170lb. individual. How much weight are you losing each week? Are you just starting your cut?

aidano
03-31-2003, 04:22 PM
This is my first week. I thought I read that maintenance cals were 12 * bodyweight somewhere?

bradley
03-31-2003, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by aidano
This is my first week. I thought I read that maintenance cals were 12 * bodyweight somewhere?

Actually the formula for maintenance is 15*bw but I wouldn't put much stock in that formula. Just decrease your cals by about 200-300 from the calorie level that were at and continue doing this each week until you are losing about a pound a week. Just have patience with it and I think you will be happier with the results. No point in dropping cals too rapidly.

aidano
03-31-2003, 04:38 PM
Agreed. Thanks Bradley.

Ironman8
03-31-2003, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by aidano
Ok, well in that case I'd better stock up on the lettuce..

Is lettuce the main staple in your diet? If it is, you'll need more proteins and healthy fat (nuts, flax, fish oil, etc..).

aidano
03-31-2003, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by Ironman8


Is lettuce the main staple in your diet? If it is, you'll need more proteins and healthy fat (nuts, flax, fish oil, etc..).

yep it's all I eat basically.

no, I'm kidding. I'm doing a 40/30/30 split P/C/F, so I'm going to now aim for around 2400 calories per day based on those percentages. I've got peanut butter and fish oil for the fats.

Ironman8
03-31-2003, 05:48 PM
Hehheh, that's good.

AJ_11
03-31-2003, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by aidano


Ok, well in that case I'd better stock up on the lettuce..

Spinach, is much better.

Shao-LiN
04-01-2003, 02:40 AM
Originally posted by aidano
Do you include your post-workout simple sugars in your daily calorific intake?

Seems to me that if I have about 60g of dextrose along with protein in water - so say about 350 calories - after a workout and include that in my daily account of foods eaten, it makes going past my calorific goal for the day far too easy.

You're consuming it aren't you? Of course you count it. If it helps you reach your target caloric intake for the day, then guess what...GOOD. It's supposed to do that.

I understand if you don't count the protein in a piece of wheat bread or something to that extent since it is a very minor amount of protein, but taking upwards of 40+ grams of high GI carbs w/o accounting for it in your calorie count?

aidano
04-01-2003, 10:28 AM
It's not good if I'm on a cut and it makes me starving for the rest of the day because I've taken in too many calories!

Anyway, my basic idea was that if the whole idea of the high GI carbs was to replace the glycogen stores you lose when training, then there's a kind of cancelling out affect going on there. I was thinking it would be the same on a bulk: the high GI carbs are taken to serve one purpose only, and have no affect on a bulk or a cut.

I realise I'm wrong here, but I'm just trying to explain my original reasons for asking.