How long can I use Xenadrine?

[starks713]

Should I take it everyday? How long should you take it before you need a break from using it?

[raniali]

thermos are most effective when consumed everyday -- usually multiple times during the day (read the package).
personally, i think that all supplements -- those things not naturally found in foods -- should be cycled to maintain efficacy and to allow your body to reset. this goes for thermos and creatine (amongst other things). [and yes i know that creatine IS found in red meat ... but not in the amounts one usually supplements with]

since you are taking Xen, i am assuming you are on a cut. most cutting phases do not last for more than 4 months. i would advise not taking Xen any longer than that.

[Severed Ties]

How long, I'd say as long as you can find it as it seems ephedra supplements are going bye-bye.


ST

[bradley]

The thermogenic effect of an ECA stack increases over time, although you will become used to the stimulant effect after prolonged use.

[Workhorse]

I just bought some Xen yesterday. Mark, the guy who owns the supp shop was telling me that Cytodyne's insurance for manufacturing RFA-1 has expired and they did no re-new it. Which means that it will no longer be manufactured... whatever is in circulation now, is all you can get. I don't know EXACTLY when they stopped/will stop manufacturing it, but its very soon. Just my $0.02.

[starks713]

I'm dieting until July. So it would be ok for me to use it daily for the next 3 months? Is that ok for your blood pressure, heart etc. to not have a break in between?

[bradley]

Originally posted by starks713
I'm dieting until July. So it would be ok for me to use it daily for the next 3 months? Is that ok for your blood pressure, heart etc. to not have a break in between?

I would say that it would be fine as long as you follow the correct dosing instructions and don't have any pre-existing conditions. I would recommend starting out with half the recommended dose for the first couple of days to see how your body responds.

[bigkevin20]

I used xen forever and it works. If you are not sure what to do try 12 weeks 2 morning 2 before workout then give it a break if you want. I lost 70 in less than 9 months. Now I am using ripped Fuel and I like it so I dont car if Xen goes off the market.

[Workhorse]

Kevin... it won't be just Xen though... Hydroxycut has been "cancelled" also. I honestly think that by next spring, anyone who's cutting and wants to use an ECA, won't be able to find one. JMHO.

[Lucian]

All those ECA pills are garbage, they dont really cause you to lose fat, maybe you'll lose a bit of water and get dehydrated.

Its good for professionals because these guys want to be dehydrated for contests, but its bad for your health to use it for a long period of time and this is why its being removed from the market.

Ephedra has alot of bad properties such as messing with the heart rate and raising body temp.

[Lucian]

If you want to cut properly, diet.

[bradley]

Originally posted by Lucian
All those ECA pills are garbage, they dont really cause you to lose fat, maybe you'll lose a bit of water and get dehydrated.

Its good for professionals because these guys want to be dehydrated for contests, but its bad for your health to use it for a long period of time and this is why its being removed from the market.

Ephedra has alot of bad properties such as messing with the heart rate and raising body temp.

I disagree. When used as directed and when following a sound diet and training plan an ECA/EC can be beneficial. Raising body temp. is the reason that it is called a thermogenic, and this would equate to more calories being burned by the body.

[Lucian]

Speed and Xtacy are also thermogenic, the problem with these thermogenic pills is the fact that depending on how sensitive your body is, you can get dehydrated, have a heart attack and die.

There should be warnings at least on the Ephedra pills which state the risks, just like there should be warnings on steriods or any other drug you decide to take which can have dangerous side effects.

Being dehydrated can mean death in certain situations. Imagine an athelete jogging with Ephedra in their system? Aerobic activity is NOT a good idea when you are on Ephedra, so yes you can take it but really I dont think its worth the risks, at least not for me.

[bradley]

Speed and Xtacy are also thermogenic, the problem with these thermogenic pills is the fact that depending on how sensitive your body is, you can get dehydrated, have a heart attack and die.


Seems like an exagerrated comparison don't you think?

There should be warnings at least on the Ephedra pills which state the risks, just like there should be warnings on steriods or any other drug you decide to take which can have dangerous side effects.


Threre are warnings on products that contain ephedra (most of them anyway).

Being dehydrated can mean death in certain situations. Imagine an athelete jogging with Ephedra in their system? Aerobic activity is NOT a good idea when you are on Ephedra, so yes you can take it but really I dont think its worth the risks, at least not for me.

I agree that it is a personal preference and one should do some research on any supplement before using it, to be aware of the risks involved.

As far as dehydration goes just make sure to drink plenty of water. When a runner is jogging he has to be sure to stay adequately hydrated regardless of whether he is taking ephedra or not.

[bigkevin20]

Duh
WTF
the ***** works
Drink water if you dehydrated

[Workhorse]

No *****... Lucian... that is your own personal opinion, and you're intitled to it... but man... do some research about it before you go off spouting garbage about it.

An ECA is called a thermogenic (like mentioned above). It raises your core temperature slightly and causes your body to burn more calories. HENCE... burn fat. Especially when doing cardio or putting yourself into a calorie deficit to lose weight. Of course you should drink water if you're on an ECA... duh... but you should be drinking at least 6L of water everyday anyways. Geez. Aerobic activity IS a good idea while on an ECA, it will further the "fat burning" effects of the supplement.

That's all I'm going to say. Just please don't rant on "personal opinion".

[Workhorse]

Originally posted by Lucian
Its good for professionals because these guys want to be dehydrated for contests, but its bad for your health to use it for a long period of time and this is why its being removed from the market.
That's called a DIURETIC not a THERMONGENIC.

[djreef]

What's all the fus about, just eat a handful of Seranos/Pablanos before your next workout. Try a few of those Scottish Bonnets, too. You want thermogenic, I'll give you a thermogenic!

DJ
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[Lucian]

Thermogenics and Diuretics both dehydrate you in two different ways.

I know because I spoke to a doctor about this and he told me Ephedra is just like a Diuretic due to how it works.

[ElPietro]

Originally posted by Lucian
Ephedra has alot of bad properties such as messing with the heart rate and raising body temp.

So does exercise smartguy, I guess we should ban that too now huh?

[ElPietro]

Oh and the ephedra is thermogenic, the caffeine is the diuretic. Just like caffeine in coffee, but we don't ban that. It's a combination of things, of which none are bad if you don't have some pre-existing health condition, and aren't a complete ******.

[Workhorse]

ELP... thanks, I couldn't have said it better my self. You are right about the caffeine... I was talking more in the terms of EXTREME water loss (like in competitions) as he used as an example. Just wanted to clear that up.

[ElPietro]

Oh sorry I only read his responses not yours, so I wasn't addressing your comments. Anyway, there is an easy and ancient way to combat diuretics, it's called drinking more water. :D

And yeah, caffeine definitely isn't some hardcore diuretic anyway.

[Workhorse]

No, thats cool ElP... I just wanted to make sure that I pointed it out so that Lucian doesn't try to justify his non-sense by twisting some information that I said. And yeah, its not some "hardcore" diuretic and drink more water if you're on an ECA...duh.

[BUFF STUFF]

Originally posted by bigkevin20
Duh
WTF
the ***** works
Drink water if you dehydrated

nuff said :cool:

[Shamik]

There were posts about these products being cancelled. Those are just the ones containing Ephedra, right? I've been using Xenadrine EFX, which is Ephedra Free. I've noticed "New and Improved" Hydroxycut on the shelves, too, which doesn't contain Ephedrine. So, my question is this, if Ephedra is/was so bad, and they've come up a way to make an equally potent formula, which doesn't contain the main ingredient, then what kind of side effects should we be looking for in the new versions?

[Workhorse]

Originally posted by Shamik
So, my question is this, if Ephedra is/was so bad, and they've come up a way to make an equally potent formula, which doesn't contain the main ingredient, then what kind of side effects should we be looking for in the new versions?
Don't kid yourself, its not "equally potent". If it was, people wouldn't use the real thing anymore.

[BUFF STUFF]

Originally posted by Shamik
I've been using Xenadrine EFX, which is Ephedra Free. I've noticed "New and Improved" Hydroxycut on the shelves, too,


"New and Improved" Just another word for a cheaper or worse ingrediant.

Some things are just best left as they are

If it works dont change it

[MJ23]

anybody have any skin allergies come up from ephedrine? discoloured skin? bruises?

[geoffgarcia]

2 years ago I was in good muscular shape and trying to lose some pounds so I was running 4 days a week for about 5 weeks, I mighta lost about 1-2 pounds....then I saw Xenadrine and did the full dosage + a few extras for 6 days and lost 15 pounds....never ballooned back up when I stopped.....

I can't imagine taking that stuff for more than 12 days....if you do either your not taking enough or your tying to kill yourself....

[bradley]

Originally posted by geoffgarcia
2 years ago I was in good muscular shape and trying to lose some pounds so I was running 4 days a week for about 5 weeks, I mighta lost about 1-2 pounds....then I saw Xenadrine and did the full dosage + a few extras for 6 days and lost 15 pounds....never ballooned back up when I stopped.....

I can't imagine taking that stuff for more than 12 days....if you do either your not taking enough or your tying to kill yourself....

I wouldn't recommend taking over the recommended dosage. That is one reason EC/ECA stacks are targeted by the media and other groups. People use the product irresponsibly and end causing harm to themselves.

[Y2A]

Originally posted by bradley


I wouldn't recommend taking over the recommended dosage. That is one reason EC/ECA stacks are targeted by the media and other groups. People use the product irresponsibly and end causing harm to themselves.

Yeah, popping a few extras is not a good idea. Combine that with intense exercise and thats why people are dropping dead. There are recommended dosages for a reason, more isnt always better.