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Behemoth
05-05-2003, 07:05 PM
I figured I'd start a journal for critique and such.

I named my journal this because you see so many people that purchase a gym pass and expect to get results from it. Whether it be to get thin or get buff, everyone seems to think that going to the gym without dedication and knowledge will get them where they want to be.

I'm currently cutting to return to my bf% before I bulked (about 10-11%) so that I can bulk again (as of now I'm about 14.5-15%).

:cool:

Behemoth
05-05-2003, 07:13 PM
Sleep 7 hours

Leg Day

Squats
115x8
115x8
215x7
215x4
205x7

Leg Press
320x4.5
300x7

Leg Curl
135x10
135x7.5
125x6

Seated Calf Raise
120x10
120x9
120x9

An overall very crappy workout. I didn't get as much sleep over the weekend as I needed, and didn't have much energy. Strength has decreased from the last workout:( . I nearly passed out on the second set of leg presses and felt lots of pressure in my head through the workout.

GhettoSmurf
05-05-2003, 07:43 PM
good luck with the journal!

your leg routine is like the exact same as mine only heavier weights. lol

and dont let one bad workout get inside your head and effect your other workouts. just say to yourself "theres always next time" :D

kook
05-05-2003, 08:08 PM
looks quite like what i do for legs too.. and some pressure on your head? thats your body telling you your becoming a man!! i always lose hearing in my right ear for about 3 hours after leg workouts...

much luck losing the fat, i think thats what everyones doing right now, tis the season

Behemoth
05-07-2003, 02:49 PM
Sleep: 7 hours

Chest, Triceps, Delts

BB Bench
115x8
145x5
145x5
185x2.5
185x2.5

Weighted Dips
+55x4.5 (Weight dropped onto dip station)
+45x5.5
+35x6

Dumbell Overhead Presses
40'sx8
40'sx5.5

DB Lateral Raises (Giant Set)
10's x15
20's x10
25's x6
17.5's x6
7.5's x10:cool:

C.G. Bench
145x8.5

Reverse Pec-Dec for Post Delts
125x10.5
115x10 (forgot to change the pin)
125x8

I don't want to say it was a crappy workout, but it certainitly wasn't very great all in all. I wanted 4 reps on the 185 BB Bench, but that didn't happen. Plus the couple of mistakes & screwups that happened didn't help. But the giant set on lateral raises made my delt's burn like no other... so that was fun:D

Behemoth
05-09-2003, 04:25 PM
Sleep: 7.5hours

Back

Bent Over Barbell Rows
45x8
95x8
95x8
165x9
170x9
170x12 (last few not brought all the way to stomache)

Weighted Pullups
+12.5x8
+12.5x7.5
+12.5x6 (underhand on this set)

Deadlift
135x8
185x8
225x5
300x3! :cool:
275x4

DB Shrugs
85's x8
85's x10
85's x7

This was a pretty good workout. I was just really into it from beginning to end. The rows were good, the chins/pullups were an increase from last week at 10lbs. The deadlift was sweet, my previous PB was 285x1 three weeks ago. I hadn't done DB shrugs in a long time and I think I like BB more, so that's the only thing I would have changed

bradley
05-09-2003, 04:41 PM
Just wondering what is your height and weight? Workouts look good IMO and good luck with your goals.

:spam:

Behemoth
05-09-2003, 04:53 PM
5'8" 170ish. I have some picture from back in january over in member pics.

BTW, thanks for the spam:thumbup:

Behemoth
05-09-2003, 07:01 PM
Anyone care to liven up my journal?

A little :spam: perhaps?

rookiebldr
05-09-2003, 07:49 PM
lol, well of course. :spam:


Just trying to help your journal out. BTW, we're about the same height and weight. :cool: And of course, well done on the deads. The bolding, I guess was a pr?

Behemoth
05-09-2003, 08:42 PM
uh-huh. Like I said, my previous PR was 285x1 three weeks prior:D

rookiebldr
05-09-2003, 09:07 PM
lol :bang: rookie's just learning to read.

Behemoth
05-10-2003, 12:53 PM
Sleep: 11.5 hours

Biceps, Forearms, Abs, Calves

Alternating DB Curls
20x10
40x6
35x8
Supersetted with Hammer Curls...
20x10

BB Wrist Curls on Preacher
80x12
80x11


Reverse BB Wrist Curls on Preacher
70x10
70x10

Hanging Leg Lifts
BWx12
BWx10

Weighted Decline Crunches
+80x12
+80x8

Straight Leg Calf Machine
45x10
50x14

Normally I do biceps and abs with back. But that workout just drags on too long, and I don't have any energy to put my full effort into this stuff at the end. I threw in some strenuous forearm and calve work to really get my blood flowin' too!:eek:

Behemoth
05-12-2003, 05:46 PM
Sleep: 7 hours

Legs

Squats
115x8
146x6
175x15

Leg Press
310x7.5
310x2:confused:

Leg Extension
255x10

Leg Curl
140x8
140x6
135x7 dropped to...
90x7

Standing Bodyweight Calf Raises on Ledge
BW x 15

Seated Calf Raise
100x10
100x12
100x12
100x11

Hmm, first off the squats. The 175x15 was an attempt at 20 rep squats that I wasn't able to pull off. The leg press I just died on the second set and couldn't even begin the motion after the second rep. The leg-X was fine. Leg curl was good, I moved up. And on the calves, I dropped the weight from last week to work with smoother, more full repitions.

wibble
05-12-2003, 06:16 PM
Hey, workouts are lookin good! Congrats on moving up on your Leg Curls and on hitting that 300lb Dead! :)

Journal is lookin good too, keep it up!:thumbup:

Behemoth
05-15-2003, 03:31 PM
** Yesterdays workout **

Sleep: 8 hours

Chest, Delt's, Tri's

DB Presses
35x8
35x8
75x8.5
75x7
75x5.5

Cable X-over
60x7.5
60x7

V-Bar Pushdowns
65x9.5

DB Lateral Raises
27.5x10
27.5x8

Postieror Delt Machine
135x8
135x6.5

Short and sweet:) .

Behemoth
05-16-2003, 07:18 PM
Sleep: 8 hours

Back, Bi's

Bent-over Barbell Rows
45x8
95x8
95x10
175x9!
175x8 (last several not completely full)
175x9 (ditto)

Weighted Pullups
+15x7!
+15x5

Deadlift
135x8
185x8
225x5
285x5
285x1

DB Shrugs
85x10
85x8
85x8

Incline Curls
35x Left - 8
Right - 7.5

Eh, it was alright. My day was worse. The deadlifts were pathetic I just died on the second set of 285 so I figured I'd give my S.E.'s a brake and stop there. I've dropped nearly all direct arm work except maybe 1 or 2 sets. I don't really feel they need it lately, although I do miss them having a good pump as appose to sportin' mush.

Behemoth
05-17-2003, 02:12 PM
Some light forearms and ab work today, nothing really worth noting.

midee1
05-17-2003, 07:54 PM
Welcome and

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:spam:

Behemoth
05-19-2003, 06:04 PM
Sleep: Probably somewhere around 8 hours, although I didn't sleep well and it was off and on sleep.

Legs

Squats
95x20
125x10
185x13 - 3" stance
185x10 - 3" stance

Stiff-Legged Deadlifts
185x10
185x10
185x10

Single Legged Calf Raises on Ledge
BW x 15
+30x12
+30x12
+30x12

It looks awfully unkosher doesn't it? Here's the story, I got a ticket and I'm grounded from the gym:eek: . Thats about the gayest punishment I've EVER heard of! Do you ground people from food or sleep? NO! Then why would you ground them from physical activity? I was ready to take 3 months of not driving in exchange for being able to go to the gym for 3 weeks but then my mom changed her mind and said 6 months not driving... so I took the no gym :(
So I worked out at home, and as you can probably guess... I can get no more than 185lbs on the barbell. So thats why I worked with such high reps. This workout sucked because my lower back still seemed a little pushed since deadlifting on friday but I didn't have many options for legs that didn't involve that part of my posterior chain. If only I had a leg extension or leg press:(

Behemoth
05-19-2003, 06:15 PM
I also forgot to note that I'm working out in 75 degree weather with 90% humidy in a small little corner in my garage with yellow jackets and wasps buzzing around my head. Hows that for concentration?

Behemoth
05-21-2003, 03:59 PM
Sleep: 7.5 hours

Chest, Delts, Tri's

Dips
BW x 12
BW x 10
+45x4.5

Incline BB Bench
145x7.5
145x4
135x5.5

DB Lateral Raises
30x6
24x10


The dips sucked, I had one hand on a table and the other on chair, the one side was about 2-3 inches higher than the other. I alternated between hands to get the higher side and planned on doing a second set weighted but it was just too ackward. I also hurt my wrist on table with all the pressure pushing back on it. So that screwed me up for the rest of the workout. Incline bench I failed all three times because of my wrist not chest exhaustion. I've had some real nasty pain in my right hand while doing lateral raises because I punched a bathtub a few weeks ago:rolleyes: and this motion really really aggravates it... I really need to control my anger:angel:

Man I miss the gym:(

Behemoth
05-23-2003, 04:26 PM
Sleep: 7 hours?

Back

Bent over barbell rows
45x12
95x12
95x12
185x6 + 2 half reps
175x8
175x9 dropped to...
105x12 dropped to...
75x12

Wide grip pullups
+15x4.5 + .5

Deadlift
225x10 speedy reps into...
Static hold
~about 20 seconds~ :rolleyes:

Barbell Shrugs
225x12
225x10
225x6 (I counted to 5 and held it at the top of each shrug)

It was a decent workout. My friend brought over some skinnier plates so now I'm able to get 225 on the bar. The pullups were done on a 2x4 in the roof of my garage so it's a bit ackward on the wrists. The static hold was pathetic, my calf cramped up about 5 seconds in and it was excruciating during the rest of the hold.

bradley
05-23-2003, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by Behemoth
I also forgot to note that I'm working out in 75 degree weather with 90% humidy in a small little corner in my garage with yellow jackets and wasps buzzing around my head. Hows that for concentration?

Sounds like dedication:)

How long do you have to stay out of the gym? I can't believe that your parents grounded you from the gym. Keep at it, and I admire your determination:thumbup:

aka23
05-23-2003, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by Behemoth
My friend brought over some skinnier plates so now I'm able to get 225 on the bar.

What type of bar and plates are you using? I would think that two 45lb plates on each side would not be a tight fit. I guess purchasing an olympic set is not be an option because of your grounding. I hope your situation improves.

Behemoth
05-23-2003, 05:19 PM
Bradley, I'm grounded from the gym for 3 weeks. One week was up today... so 2 more left. I'm considering taking next week off for extra recovery, but I'm goona play it by ear and see how I feel then.

AKA, it's not an olympic bar, just standard:( . What I had on it today to get 225 was (some of these are the crappy plastic sand filled type, and some are good metal plates) 4 - 20lb plastic, 4 - 15lb plastic, 4 - 10lb metal, 8 - 5lb metal, and the bar weighs about 5. I played around with it all and that's the most I can get on it. I looked around my garage for paint cans to hang from the ends of the bar but we aint got none. I don't really have the money or the space for an olympic set, plus it wouldn't get any use in 2 more weeks. So I'll just make do with the crap I got now...

Behemoth
05-25-2003, 03:49 PM
Did some HIIT running today. It was unique to say the least. I started out with about a 6 or 7 minute warmup jog then I started the sprints in intervals of about 10-15sec on/45-second off with a jog in between, but the last several were a walk on the off time. I did 7 of those, although towards the end the rest were a bit longer. After I would finish the sprints I'd get a cold chill and a tingle all through my body followed by an imediate nauseousness. I had stabbing pains all through my lungs and diaphragm. Although I couldn't see any blood in my spit, I had a very strong taste of blood in my mouth throughout the session. All in all, I think I enjoyed it.:cool:

Behemoth
05-28-2003, 04:47 PM
More HIIT today. Pretty much the same as my last session except 8 sets of sprints this time.

I've pretty much taken this week off from weightlifting. My body needed a break from it and since I figured I'd take this week off since my body's just getting broken into the HIIT.

Hmm, this is my 1000th post too :eek:

Behemoth
05-30-2003, 04:39 PM
eh, I'm back at it

Sleep: 9 hours

Back, Hamstrings

BB Rows
45x12
95x12
95x12
185x7.5
175x7
175x7 dropped...
125x10 dropped...
85x10

brief 30 second break then into

Shoulder Width Pullups
BW x 4

SLDL's
85x10
85x10
85x10
145x8
185x8
205x8
205x8

BB Shrugs
225x8

Decent. Lot's of stretching between warmup sets of SLDL's.

Behemoth
06-03-2003, 11:19 AM
Sleep: 6? 7? 8?

Chest, Deltoids, Triceps

Did a little warming up with a few sets of pushups

Flat Barbell Bench
145x4
171x5
181x3
165x6
145x9 <--- explosive lifts with 4 second negatives

Incline Flys
30x8
30x10

Standing BB Military Press
95x6
85x7

Dumbell Lateral Raises
30x6

Skulls
65x11

The benching sucked because I had no spotter and was afraid to work terribly close to failure, although I did come close on a few sets. Also the whole bench setup I have sucks, it's real close and cluttered and I don't enjoy. I'll never understand my delts, they're probably the largest part on me... yet the weakest. My military press's and OH's are pathetic. I had a hard time getting the full ROM in on the lateral raises... I need 27.5's. Skulls were good, although I thought I'd get a few more than 11 at 65lbs.

It was fun, but this is my last workout at home... then the real fun begins :cool:

Behemoth
06-08-2003, 06:26 PM
It's been a while since I've updated this.

Did HIIT today. 11 sets of sprints, might have been 12.

I'm going to take at least 2 back workouts, probably 3, posibly 4 off. All the way back in september I hurt a muscle in my back and it gives me grief after every back workout, I could just never bring myself to lay off of it (probably very foolish I know). I believe it to be a strained muscle, I only feel it when I'm hunched over like when I'm sitting in a chair and arching my upper back signifigantly. I'm not sure whether it's a rhomboid, lower trap fiber, or spinal erector. It's right about at the point where they all overlap.

I'll do legs tomorrow, just so long as they're not sore. Hopefully they're not, although it's been a while since my last HIIT session.

Behemoth
06-11-2003, 06:41 PM
Sleep: 10 hours?

Legs

Squats
115x8
115x8
210x8
210x6
205x4 <-- my lower back was utterly fried

Leg Press
310x7

Leg extension
255x7
210x9
210x6 dropped to...
165x5 dropped to...
120x3 at this point the repitions were not even fully extended

Leg Curl
140x8
140x6
100x16

Calf Raises on a Ledge
BW x 15

Seated Calf Raises
100x8
100x9
100x10

Straight Leg Calf Machine
50x12
50x12


Lotsa crap going on. I finally made it back into the gym. When I stepped into the locker room to get changed I was overcome with a feeling like I was home after being gone for years... haha I'm a geek. About the workout, I suppose it was a bit heavy for the first leg day in a good while, but I don't care I hit it hard and enjoyed it. I know the DOMS will catch up to me real soon though :) . My quads are starting to look pretty cool. With the cuts coming out they're beginning to look pretty massive, they measure at 23.5 right now, which for a skinny boy like me aint too shabby:cool: .

Behemoth
06-15-2003, 01:48 PM
Sleep: 8 hours

Chest, Delts, Tri's, Bi's, Abs

Flat DB Press
35x10
35x10
75x6.5
75x6
75x4.5
60x7.5

Standing Cable Crossover
60x6.5
60x6 with a short rest into...
45x11

Seated DB OH Press
40x9

DB Lateral Raises
27.5x7
22.5x11
22.5x8

Hammer Curls
15x10
35x6

V-Bar Pushdowns
50x15 dropped to...
35x11

Hanging Leg Tucks
BW x 10
BW x 8

Weighted DC Crunches
+80x8
+80x6


:cool:
Strength is a bit down, but thats probably because of the extensive frequency. It's been 11 days since last chest day I believe. Now that I'm not driving again, nobody will ever take me to the gym and pick me up an hour later.
I did a little direct bicep work since I'm not working my back for a few weeks and they'd virtually be getting no work at all.

Behemoth
06-15-2003, 02:11 PM
On another note. The stupid electronic caliper caliptered me at 15%. I'd say I'm more like 13%, maybe lower :eek:

Behemoth
06-18-2003, 11:38 AM
**Yesterdays workout**

Sleep: 10 hours

Legs, Forearms

Squats
115x8
115x8
210x8
210x6 <--- 2" stance

Leg X
265x9
265x8
255x8 droppped to...
150x6

Leg Curl
145x7
145x5.5
130x8.5
110x10

Single Legged Calf Ledge Raise
BW x 15

Seated Calf Raise
100x12
100x12
100x12
100x11

DB Wrist Curls
80x10
Switched to BB - 80x6

Reverse Wrist Curls on Preacher
70x10
70x8 into 21sec static hold

Normally when I squat I take about a 4-5" stance in between my feet, but on the second set of those I tried about 2". I found it was very hard to balance and I couldn't keep the babell on my shoulders level. I also squat rock bottom on all my sets, not to say that the numbers still don't suck:rolleyes: .

Behemoth
06-20-2003, 11:05 AM
HIIT today. 10 sets. A lot more jogging instead of walking in between sets. Longer sprints also.

Behemoth
06-22-2003, 07:24 PM
Sleep: 7.5

Chest, Delts, Tris

DB Presses
35x10
35x10
55x6
75x7
75x5 into DC stretch

Cable Crossover
60x10
60x7
Fairly short rest then
Incline DB Press
50x10

DB Lateral Raises
27.5x10!
27.5x7
25x8 dropped to...
17.5x8 dropped to...
10x8

Posterior Delt on Pec-deck
135x7
135x5
110x10

Hanging Leg Raises
+7.5x10
+12.5x8 short rest then
BW x 10

Good workout, I don't know how I got 10 reps on the first set of lateral raises.

On a side note: A very wet, very naked old man told me he felt like a soggy dollar bill while I was changing

Behemoth
06-23-2003, 05:25 PM
I'm starting to wonder why I update this, nobody ever posts in here.

HIIT today. It was much much hotter than all the times I've previously done it. I did 8 sets of sprints. They were pretty intense today and the rest period was signifigantly shorter than previously.

Behemoth
06-27-2003, 07:17 PM
Sleep: Plenty

Light Leggies

Squats
135x8
135x8
185x8
210x8 smoked these but on the 8th rep got off balance and put a lot of extra stress on my back so I stopped it there
185x10

Leg X
275x8

Leg Curl
145x8
140x6.5

Straight Leg Calf Machine
30x12
Single Legs
20x12
25x8

Comments: :cool:

Behemoth
06-30-2003, 03:07 PM
**Yestedays workout**

Sleep: half the day

Chest, deltooooooids, triceps, biceps, abs

Dumbell Presses
35x10
35x10
55x6
75x6.5
75x8 into DC stretch

Cable Crossover
60x11
60x6.5

Incline Dumbell Presses
50x12

Seated DB OH Press
45x5.5
35x8

DB Lateral Raises
22.5x12

Post Delt Machine
135x9
120x9 dropped to...
75x10

V-bar pushdowns
55x12

hammer curls
15x10
30x13

Ab machine
110x12
120x13
120x10

Comments: I'm beginning to increase my rep range. Previously I worked around a 6-8 range, now I'm going high. Around 9-12.

Behemoth
07-06-2003, 09:22 PM
This hasn't been updated in a while...

Sleep: about 7 hours

Legerific Day

Squats
135x8
135x8
185x20 FREAKING TOUGH, BUT NOT TOUGH ENOUGH:eek: ...

Hack Squats
95x7
135x8
185x4

SLDL
135x10
190x10

Straight Leg Calf Machine done single-legged
15x15
20x12
20x11
20x10

Notes: Squats were nuts. It was the second time I'd ever done 20 rep squats and the first time I made it to 20, however I don't think I had enough weight on the bar. Last time when I made it to 16 I was huffing and puffing for a good 10 minutes afterwards, this time was 5 at best, although I'm in respectively better cardio vascular shape.
The hack squats were the first time I'd ever done them. The sets weren't really heavy I was just getting a feel for them. I had a problem of running the bar up the back of my hamstrings but when I came to my butt it got in the way:confused: so thats no good.
And my right calf is signifigantly stronger than my left.

Behemoth
07-08-2003, 12:27 PM
sleep: 4? 6? 8? i really have no clue

Chest shoulders triceps

DB presses
35x10
35x10
55x6
75x9
75x7

cable crossover
60x12
65x5

incline DB presses
55x11

DB lateral raises drop set
25x9
20x7
15x7
10x6
5x8

posterior delt machine
135x9
125x9

V-bar pushdowns
60x13 dropped to...
40x9

comments spictastic :cool:

Behemoth
07-11-2003, 08:03 PM
Schleep: about 10 hours

Back, Biceps

Pulldowns to warmup
60x12
75x12
90x12
90x12

Pullups
BW x 10
BW x 7.5 + .5
BW x 5.5 + .5

Dumbell ROws
80x10

Deadlift
135x8
185x6
225x5
275x3 into
static hold
27 seconds

DB shrugs
80x10

Incline Curls
20x10
35x6
30x8
30x8

Hammer curls
35x left-4, right-3 dropped...
22.5x7

Scott S
07-11-2003, 10:54 PM
Hey, I'll post :spam: in your journal if you'll post in mine!

Are you still cutting? You should post some weight/BF% info from time to time.

Good benching too. I've been doing DB press for about two months straight, so it'll be interesting to see how much I can do on BB bench when I get back to it. My DB press has gone from 45's to 60's in the time being!

Sara
07-12-2003, 12:15 AM
Hi Behemoth,
Very nice and interesting journal, I just found you being grounded from th gym really funny, I can totally relate last year my parents banned me from the gym for a week and I went very crazy and lucky you, you were able to make up for it at home that shows determination, I just sneaked to the gym between classes, and I gotta away from it. You have very good workouts going on and I gotta give you a thumbs up for doing some hardcore and nice workouts!!

Behemoth
07-12-2003, 11:51 AM
2 months since I get a post in my journal and suddenly I get 2? Awesome:cool: . Scott, you got a deal, I'm coming to your journal right after this:)


Originally posted by Scott S
Hey, I'll post :spam: in your journal if you'll post in mine!

Are you still cutting? You should post some weight/BF% info from time to time.

Good benching too. I've been doing DB press for about two months straight, so it'll be interesting to see how much I can do on BB bench when I get back to it. My DB press has gone from 45's to 60's in the time being!

I've just in the last week or so began to up my calories. I'm going to do 6 weeks of bulking with a basic routine of a 20 rep squats, bench press, and weighted pullups twice a week. I'll eat like mad during this time. After that I'm not sure whether I'll continue to bulk for a while longer doing a more traditional routine with isolation exercises present or not. I might choose to cut some more because I really didn't reach the results I wanted during this last one. I took it far too slow and was afraid to lose any muscle. Which I certainly didn't.
I went from about 183lbs 16% to 167lbs 13%. I was hoping to get to 10% or so. Next time I think I'll sacrifice a few pounds of LBM to get a little leaner. I took me 3 months to do that pathetic cut and if I would have just cut quicker, I'd have more time to bulk:( .



Originally posted by Sara
Hi Behemoth,
Very nice and interesting journal, I just found you being grounded from th gym really funny, I can totally relate last year my parents banned me from the gym for a week and I went very crazy and lucky you, you were able to make up for it at home that shows determination, I just sneaked to the gym between classes, and I gotta away from it. You have very good workouts going on and I gotta give you a thumbs up for doing some hardcore and nice workouts!!

Hey thanks, I appreciate that. Yeah it drove me crazy being out of te gym, I was ready to move out of the house. It also drove me crazy because nobody could understand why it bothered me so much. It's so funny when people look at dedication as obsession. Grant it, there is a fine line between them. But when the dedication involves doing something other people don't want to do, they resort to calling it an obsession.

Scott S
07-12-2003, 02:10 PM
Hmm, judging by your numbers, I'm not so sure you *didn't* lose muscle... 183 @ 16% gives 154 lbs LBM and 167 @ 13% gives only 145 lbs LBM. Perhaps you lost some muscle, and that's why you don't look as 'cut' as you wanted to be.

That must be pretty disappointing -- sorry dude! I don't really have much advice except that maybe you'll need to cut even slower next time... :(

Behemoth
07-12-2003, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by Scott S
Hmm, judging by your numbers, I'm not so sure you *didn't* lose muscle... 183 @ 16% gives 154 lbs LBM and 167 @ 13% gives only 145 lbs LBM. Perhaps you lost some muscle, and that's why you don't look as 'cut' as you wanted to be.

That must be pretty disappointing -- sorry dude! I don't really have much advice except that maybe you'll need to cut even slower next time... :(

Heh, I think you forgot to factor in the water and glycogen ;) . There was probably an initial 7-10lbs of that lost. And seeing as how nearly all my lifts increased I'm fairy sure if muscle was lost, it was at most a pound or two. Although I can't help but ask myself, could I have gained a small amount of muscle while losing fat? I'm still fairly new to this so it is a possibility. And no, next time I certainly won't be cutting slower. I was eating 200 below maintence for the first 2 months or so, for the last month it was more like 400 below.

Scott S
07-13-2003, 12:46 AM
Oh, duh... I keep forgetting about water and glycogen, but can you really lose 10 lbs of those??

Reading back over your journal again, you're right... if you've been gaining strength, you must not be losing much (if any) muscle!

Hmmm... you sound like you've been doing it right, too - HIIT cardio, cutting slowly, etc.

Behemoth
07-13-2003, 10:38 AM
It would really depend on how much you're retaining in the first place.

Here's the math for me...
183 (16%) - 10lbs of initial water/glycogen

this puts me at 173 and still 16% although I'll look thinner and flatter from the water and glycogen.

173 @ 16% = 145.32lbs LBM
167 @ 13% = 145.29lbs LBM

Now grant it I may not have lost exactly 10lbs of water and glycogen. But certainly within a few pounds of it. So at very most, that leaves a few pounds of muscle that I could have lost (which I don't think I did).

Scott S
07-13-2003, 03:19 PM
Ah, that makes sense.

Behemoth
07-19-2003, 10:22 PM
Bulking now, new routine I'll follow for 6 weeks. It goes as follows:

Day
1 - Weighted chins, benchpress
2 - 20 rep squats
3 - rest
4 - weighted chins, benchpress
5 - 20 rep squats
6 - rest
7 - rest

This could very well change because I don't know how my body will respond to this.
The squats will have warmup sets and there will be a set or 2 of calf raises thrown in once or twice per week.

The benchpress and chins will likely follow this rep range:
warmups
1 set heavy 6-8 rep
2 sets heavy 9-12 rep

I may add or drop a set of these depending on how I'm feeling/rocovering. I may change it up a little and have maybe a heavy day of 2 sets, and a lighter day of 4, who knows.

Behemoth
07-19-2003, 10:29 PM
**workout from the 18th**

squats
95x10
135x8
135x8
200x19.5

straight leg calf raises machine
20x15 (needed more weight)



That was the first time the squat rack actually saved me. I'm pretty sure I got the right weight that time too. It was an interseting day, nobody waiting for the squat rack, but i believe all 3 flat benches had someone on them and another person waiting. I can only wonder what the bench jockeys were thinking when they saw the kid in the corner squat his weight 19 times then fall over haha.

Behemoth
08-02-2003, 05:10 PM
hmm

The back problem I had earlier was due to shooting archery. I found this out because I hurt my back the exact same way on the other side. Ive taken close to a week or so off and I'll resume workouts soon.

Scott S
08-02-2003, 09:21 PM
wb

Behemoth
08-04-2003, 01:13 PM
uhh... what?