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AA1
05-10-2003, 04:30 PM
Is there any gear that does not cause balding, or is this a risk taken with all?

Silverback
05-10-2003, 04:35 PM
There are quite a few actually, but if you are seriously worried then proscar is a good choice whilst using AS.

AA1
05-10-2003, 05:07 PM
How safe are they in general? Do any of them help you get cut up while putting on muscle? Any more recommendations?

the doc
05-10-2003, 07:42 PM
all gear will cause balding (deca would probably cause the least) if you have a propensity towards MPB

AA1
05-10-2003, 09:49 PM
What do you think about taking 1-test and Saw Palmetto? Thanx for the help guys

Bryan
05-10-2003, 10:04 PM
1-test I believe is similar to tren, so its hard on the hairline

Bigmofo
05-10-2003, 10:25 PM
Wasnt 1-test similar to primobolan??

AA1
05-10-2003, 10:27 PM
Studies show that Saw Palmetto inhibits binding of DHT, which is supposed to help ease up on the hairline.......

AA1
05-10-2003, 10:27 PM
would i see good results taking 1-test....preferably 10-15lbs lean muscle

Budiak
05-10-2003, 10:30 PM
I guess I need to be the one to say that the only thing that determines whether you get bigger, stronger, cut or fat while on a cycle is diet and training.

I suppose anavar is the king of mild when it comes to sides, but get ready to spend the money. IMO, test is best.

AA1
05-10-2003, 10:47 PM
I work real hard, and I diet right. Lately, I've been able to get my bf pretty low, but i lost too much weight doin it, and it seems like whatever I do, when i put muscle back on my bf is goin up with it. I've never tried any gear or stronger supplements. I've researched for the past 5 months to try to find something that works with the least amount of side effects possible. Does saw palmetto work? I'm just lookin for somethin to give me the edge I need. I wanna put on 10-15lbs and keep a low bf.

Severed Ties
05-11-2003, 02:28 PM
Saw palmetto, the short answer is no. It has minimal if any effect on your hair line.

1-test will probably accelerate hair loss dramaticly if your prone to it. When talking steroids anavar or deca would be the mildest. Prohormones yor best bet would probably be 4-AD.


ST

Bryan
05-11-2003, 02:37 PM
ST, I'm 19 and going to be going a 1-test cycle soon as we discussed in the other thread. My mother's father still has a full set of hair at age 65, should I still worry about MPB? How does one know if they are prone to hairloss or MPB?

AA1
05-11-2003, 04:01 PM
Thanx for the info ST. Is there anything that does inhibit the effects of DHT?

AA1
05-11-2003, 04:02 PM
Bryan what i've read about MPB is that it's genetics. Whether you are genetically inclined or not depends on the men on your mother's side.

Severed Ties
05-11-2003, 05:21 PM
AA1- systematically the drug finastride, brand name propecia or proscar or avodart will inhibit DHT production.

Topically Azelaic Acid has the most research supporting it.

Bryan- The gene's for MPB were though to be exclusively carried by the mother but this is no longer the case. Your mothers, father is usually your best indicator but your father and your fathers, father should also be looked at. The most obvious senario is if all the men in your family have full heads of hair into their 60's. In that case you probably have nothing to worry about.


ST

Bryan
05-11-2003, 07:01 PM
ok well, my dad's father is bald, but both his sons still have most of their hair in their mid 40s, its thinning but they are no where near being bald. As I said before my mother's father has a full head of hair still at 65. Now in my family we have 2 types of skin, my mothers(south american, tans easily, no problems with the sun) and my fathers skin(irish,pale skin color, and easily burned by the sun). I have my mothers skin but my brother and sister have my fathers skin. If this helps at all for my cause heh.

Anyhow, I'm pretty set on doing that cycle, I guess I'll just keep a good close eye on my hairline, although even if it did start to thin I wouldnt notice probably.