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Frozenmoses
05-21-2003, 08:40 AM
I've been out of the iron game for around 2 months now, and it's killing me. I've lost a great deal of mass and strength I had previously worked so hard for, and I've had enough.

For those who followed my last journal, I injured my back in early March deadlifting. It was due to a degenerative spinal condition which is genetic and something I had no control over. I've now recovered presumably as much as I'm going to be able to, and I'm setting myself off in a new direction.

While injured, my diet went to total hell. I stopped eating healthy, and was averaging around 1400 calories/day. I've gone from a fairly lean 165 to a skinny and weak 150. I can no longer perform any lifts that exert any axial pressure, so freeweights are now going to be used sparingly. Sadly, I can no longer squat or deadlift. I will persevere, however.

My new goal is strictly for mass purposes. Previously, I had been training for mostly mass, but I always wanted to keep the possibility of future powerlifting open. That is no longer the case. I will now be incorporating a good deal of machine assistance into my lifts, and will be training on a low volume 4 day split. I'm not too concerned about my diet either, at this stage. I was a stickler for getting lean before, but now that I've lost so much of what I earned, I'm just going to eat to gain every ounce of it back, and then some. I'm going to eat until my clothes are choking me, and then I'll consider cutting.

We'll see how this works out this time around. If I can remain injury-free, hopefully this journal will last for a good while.

GhettoSmurf
05-21-2003, 08:43 AM
im glad your better. it stinks that you cant use free weights, and cant DL or squat, but it sounds like ou have a lot of determination, and i think that's all you need to get to your goal!


good luck bro!

WillKuenzel
05-21-2003, 08:44 AM
Sorry to hear about all that but its damn good to have ya back! No doubt you'll be able to work around it and get big.

Now got eat something skinny! :p

bradley
05-21-2003, 08:51 AM
Good to see you back FM. I am sure you will have no problem gaining the weight back. Best of luck.

ectx
05-21-2003, 09:34 AM
TEH BIG CHUY HAS BEEN RESURECTED.

Glad you're back mo. Freeweights shmeeweights...as long as you can lift some. Did you go through any physical therapy or rehab?

Frozenmoses
05-21-2003, 03:41 PM
Thanks for the comments guys, I love this community.

ec - No, I didn't do any rehab. I went to the neurosurgeon and he said that it wasn't necessary. He said just to be extremely careful, and that there's nothing keeping me from becoming a giant if I want to be. Giantness, en route, baybee. Oh yeah, and I quit my job at Casey's, so you're gonna have to devise some new plan to harass me, boy-o!

Frozenmoses
06-02-2003, 02:06 PM
Okay, this past week has been probably one of the craziest of my life. I graduated yesterday, and it has been absolute chaos. I've partied like no other, and I'm just about partied out now. I'm excited to get back at the hardcore living.

On the plus side, I'm a founding member of the Eleven-One club. We had an 11'1" beer bong last night, and myself and a friend were the only people at the party who could clear it. Go go chuy!

Mik
06-02-2003, 02:31 PM
Great to have ya back Mo! I'm glad to hear you'll be back to liftin' foo. Grats on graduating man.

ectx
06-02-2003, 02:50 PM
About Freakin' time Chuy. Congrats on surviving HS. Now lift weights...will ya?

WillKuenzel
06-02-2003, 02:56 PM
You're hitting an 11'1" beer bong and you live to tell about it?! :bow:


What's the plans for after HS?

Frozenmoses
06-03-2003, 11:59 AM
Mik - Thanks bro! Great to be back.

ec - Hah, thanks man. I'm leaving for the gym right now, I swear!

HY - LOL, hell yes mang! As of now, my plans are to move with 2 of my friends to Corpus Christi next month where I will attend A&M University. I'm going to try for at least a masters in Astronomy, Physics, or both. We shall see!

Frozenmoses
06-03-2003, 05:57 PM
6/3/03

HS Wide Chest Press @ 90 lbs: 8, @ 180 lbs: 6,5,4
Rope Pushdowns @ 70 lbs: 8, @ 110 lbs: 6,6,6
Cable Flyes @ 80 lbs: 8, @ 120 lbs: 6,6
HS Decline Press @ 90 lbs: 6, @ 160 lbs: 4,4

Woo, this was a good, quick workout. I kept the volume low and intensity high. I'm a bit concerned that this may be a little too low on volume though. Anyone have some input?

heathj
06-03-2003, 06:01 PM
Jesus. How many beers can that hold?

Frozenmoses
06-03-2003, 06:32 PM
4.5 beers per bongage. And I did it 4 times. There's a reason they call me teh big jesus!

Frozenmoses
06-04-2003, 04:28 PM
5/4/03

Seated Leg Extensions @ 130 lbs: 6, @ 150 lbs: 6, @ 170 lbs: 6, @ 150 lbs: 6, 6
Standing Leg Curls @ 55 lbs: 6, @ 70 lbs: 6, @ 80 lbs: 6, 6
Standing Calf Raises @ 120 lbs: 6, @ 160 lbs: 6

This was my KISS workout (Keep It Simple, Stupid). I stuck to the basics, and ho-boy, my quads were ablaze dismounting the seat. Good lawd, I'ma be walking funny tomorrow.

Frozenmoses
06-05-2003, 01:00 PM
5/5/03

DB Lat Raises @ 35 lbs: 6, 5 @ 30 lbs: 6, 5
DB Front Raises @ 25 lbs: 6, 6, 6
Hammerstrength OH Press @ 90 lbs: 6, @ 110 lbs: 6, @ 120 lbs: 5, @ 110 lbs: 4.5
Cable Lat Raises @ 30 lbs: 4
Cable Shrugs @ 160 lbs: 8, @ 180 lbs: 10
Seated Rear Lat Extensions @ 100 lbs: 6, @ 130 lbs: 6, 6

My shoulders are cashed. Ow.

Mik
06-05-2003, 01:42 PM
Lookin' good Mo. How's it feel to be back?

Frozenmoses
06-05-2003, 02:09 PM
It feels fantastic to be back at it, Mik. For a long time there, I really let myself go, and it was definitely not good. I drank WAY too much, so I was either always drunk or always hungover. I like having this structured lifestyle, and being forced to push myself. It makes me feel like I'm being productive and I'm improving upon myself every time I walk in the gym.

Frozenmoses
06-06-2003, 01:48 PM
5/6/03

Hammerstrength Lateral Pullover @ 90 lbs: 8, @ 150 lbs: 6, @ 160 lbs: 6
Cable Rope Curls @ 70 lbs: 6, @ 120 lbs: 6, 6 @ 110 lbs: 6, 3
Hammerstrength Front Pulldown @ 90 lbs: 6, @ 160 lbs: 3
Hammerstrength High Row @ 110 lbs: 6, @ 160 lbs: 6, 6
DB Curls @ 30 lbs ss w/DB Hammer Curls @ 25 lbs: 6/6, 6/4

Arms feel roasted. Got some great back contractions in there as well. Time to fire up the Foreman and eat some hamburger.

:drooling:

Frozenmoses
06-06-2003, 05:11 PM
I ordered up some of Dan's 1-TNT. It's the straight 1-T formula, and I've got a 4 week cycle of some 4-AD ethergels on hand. I plan on doing an 8 week cycle: 4 weeks of the 1-TNT and 4-AD to add some mass, and 4 weeks straight 1-TNT to cut the excess adipose kleenex (rimshot!). Hope 'dis be good stuffs!

Mik
06-06-2003, 05:35 PM
Good luck Mo!

pruneman
06-06-2003, 06:10 PM
Hey mo. Sorry to hear about the injury. WELCOME BACK! Good luck on your new program. Too bad ya can't do too much with free weights, but you sound pretty dedicated, so i can't imagine it will hold you back too much. I'll be checkin in here more often. Good luck.

-Pman

Frozenmoses
06-06-2003, 06:14 PM
Hey prune, I appreciate you stopping by! Thanks for the kind words, bro. I'm gonna be back at the iron game tenfold, and nothing's going to hold me back this time.

Mik
06-07-2003, 02:56 PM
There better not be.;)

Frozenmoses
06-08-2003, 09:45 PM
Mik - You know it, beh-beh!

Today was an off day. Diet was pretty spot on I think... I think I might've been a wee bit low on calories but that's just fine with me. Actually I don't know if I can consider today an off day. Ashley called me and asked me to help her and her friend move. Well as it turns out, I was the only male present, so I did all of the lifting up and down stairs. I did however get to meet a few hot girls doing so, and they all officially think I'm the nicest guy ever.

pruneman
06-09-2003, 05:05 AM
Originally posted by Frozenmoses
I did however get to meet a few hot girls doing so, and they all officially think I'm the nicest guy ever.

:D nice

Frozenmoses
06-09-2003, 02:57 PM
5/9/03

BB BP @ 65 lbs: 8, @ 115: 6
Hammerstrength Decline Chest Press @ 90 lbs: 8, @ 180: 6, @ 200: 4, @ 180: 3.5
Cable Flyes @ 120 lbs: 6, @ 140: 6
Cable Punches @ 100 lbs: 8, @ 120: 8
Rope Pushdowns @ 120 lbs: 6, 6, 6
Incline DB Flyes @ 30 lbs: 6, 6

Felt like a pretty decent push day. Arms and chest are sufficiently fried. I'm going to the Eagles concert tonight with Ashley which should be totally ace. I also started my 4-AD ethergels today, and will augment them with the 1-TNT when it arrives later this week. Now, I munch down on a pound of ground beef. Yumyumyum.

Frozenmoses
06-11-2003, 07:52 PM
Couldn't work out today, as I had to attend my aunt's funeral. I received my cycle of 1-TNT today, and I start tomorrow.

Saint Patrick
06-12-2003, 01:17 AM
Condolensces on your aunt, and your injury. Good to hear you're not giving up. Keep hitting the machines and you'll be back on track.

I assume ashley is your g/f? You must post some pics :D :hump: :angel:

Try to take some before/after pics for your 8 week progress with the PH's. I'm really curious what you'll look like before and after.

Oh, and I hate to be a kill-joy, but lay off the beer, dude.

Frozenmoses
06-12-2003, 09:44 AM
Pat - Appreciated man. I'll post a pic of myself and Ashley here in a minute. Good call on taking the pics, I'll do that here in a little while. And you're totally right, I need to lay off the beer. Especially during this cycle.

Frozenmoses
06-12-2003, 10:19 AM
Ok, this is a pic of me and Ashley from graduation. I normally don't smile this big, but damn, she has the effect on me.

WillKuenzel
06-12-2003, 10:24 AM
Sorry to hear about your Aunt man.

Ashley looks like quite a cutey there. :hump:



And yeah, lay off the beer while on that cycle man. Good luck with it!

Mik
06-12-2003, 10:25 AM
Nice pic Mo. She's a hotty. ;)

Frozenmoses
06-12-2003, 12:37 PM
HY - I appreciate it, mang. No beer for teh chuy.

Mik - Thanks duder. You wouldn't believe the stares old men give her when we go out.

Frozenmoses
06-12-2003, 12:40 PM
6/12/03

Went to the gym today, and I forgot my damn pen to write in my journal. Mother****. Oh well, it was a good shoulder/trap day. Marginal rep improvements over last week's.

I also started my 1-Test today. Rubbed it on, and it tingled. Washed my hands, made a natty pb sandwich and munched down. After that, I went to go put in my contacts, and my eyes caught on fire. It felt like I had flames coming out of my eye sockets. Jeebus I'ma have to boil my hands after each application. Either that or put my contacts in first, but that would be too easy.

Frozenmoses
06-12-2003, 12:41 PM
Oh yeah, 1000 posts baby! Woop!

clvmike19
06-12-2003, 12:49 PM
booya! congrats on the chick. You have a HOT gf. Good work! :D

Keep up the lifting. Looking good.

Y2A
06-12-2003, 12:57 PM
Howd you get a girl like that? :D jk, good work so far, keep it up :)

JustinASU
06-12-2003, 05:53 PM
Hey there FM,
Feels great to be back doesn't it?? You got some solid workouts posted thus far. Good luck on getting back into things. Hey and btw keep us posted on that 1-TNT cycle, I am starting a 1-test cycle soon so I'm very interested in how others are handling their cycles and how it's effecting them. BTW you have a beautiful girlfriend :D

cphafner
06-12-2003, 08:51 PM
good luck with the journal. I'll be checking in to see how the cylce goes. Part of me wants to try the prohormones, but the other part listens to my grilfriend who says she would kick my ass if I tried them...

Frozenmoses
06-13-2003, 12:54 PM
clvmike19 - Thanks a bunch bro!

Y2A - Maybe she thinks I'm rich? lol, thanks man.

Justin - It feels fantastic. Thanks a bunch, and I'll definitely keep you updated on how this 1-TNT works for me. Thanks man.

cphafner - Thanks man. Prohormones are something you really need to think long and hard about. They're expensive, and they do have side effects. I wouldn't listen to your girlfriend. Whatever decision you make, make it for yourself, not for what other people tell you.

Frozenmoses
06-13-2003, 12:59 PM
6/13/03

Cable Pulldowns @ 80 lbs: 8, @ 150: 6, @ 160: 6
Cable Low Rows @ 90 lbs: 6, @ 120: 6, @ 140: 4 +2 Forced
Cambered Bar Cable Curls @ 80 lbs: 6, @ 110: 6
Rope Curls @ 120 lbs: 6
Hammerstrength Front Lat Pulldown @ 180 lbs: 6, 4
DB Curls @ 35 lbs: 4
BB Curls @ 70 lbs: 4, 4
Hammerstrength Lat Pullover @ 160 lbs: 6, @ 170: 4.5

Ooo, felt stronger than last week. This workout was longer than usual, and as you can see, I tried to mix and match a lot today. I kept the number of sets per exercise relatively small, and tried to get a good variety in. All in all, felt like an ace day. I'm going to see the Red Hot Chili Peppers and Snoop Dogg tonight which is gonna rock ass. My ribeye is ready, so that's all I gots!

Frozenmoses
06-14-2003, 02:05 PM
The concert was totally sweet last night. I had lawn seats, and it was pouring like a mofo. I was soaked, but the Chili Peppers put on an amazing show and there was lightning going ape sh!t which created a pretty sweet atmosphere. Ah well, no training for the weekend.

Frozenmoses
06-14-2003, 02:06 PM
Oh, and as a side note, I haven't been monitoring my weight or measurments at all lately. I stepped on the scale and I'm at 170! I'm big again! Yay! I also measured my arms, and before I hurt my back, they were at around 13.25", and today they were right at 14". I must be doing something right!

Saint Patrick
06-14-2003, 02:11 PM
Making progress is the BEST feeling. Keep it up man.

Frozenmoses
06-15-2003, 03:59 PM
Pat - No doubt man. It's nice to see all of the hard work can and does produce results. Thanks for the post, mang.

cphafner
06-15-2003, 09:29 PM
congrats on the arms growing! concert sounds cool. I'm not taking them because my girl says I can't. She says that I look good enough with out them and don't need to mess with them. I don't disagree totally with her.

Mik
06-16-2003, 07:06 AM
Originally posted by Frozenmoses
Oh, and as a side note, I haven't been monitoring my weight or measurments at all lately. I stepped on the scale and I'm at 170! I'm big again! Yay! I also measured my arms, and before I hurt my back, they were at around 13.25", and today they were right at 14". I must be doing something right!

Nice work Mo! I knew you'd be b right back up there in no time. Keep up the good work foo!

Frozenmoses
06-16-2003, 12:49 PM
cp - Thanks a bunch bro. I understand about the PH's, if there are any doubts at all, don't even bother touching 'em. Wait til you know 100% that you're ready and wanting them.

Mik - Thanks duder! I guess the whole muscle memory thing is true, because I look just as big now as I did before my injury, and I'm actually stronger now. Woop!

Frozenmoses
06-16-2003, 12:55 PM
6/18/03

Large ROM Machine Flyes @ 70 lbs: 6, @ 100: 6, @ 120: 3
Hammerstrength Iso Lateral Incline Press @ 90 lbs: 6, @ 160: Miss
Hammerstrength Iso Lateral Decline Press @ 180 lbs: 6, @ 200: 6, 5
Hammerstrength Wide Chest Press @ 180 lbs: 6, @ 200: 4.5
Rope Pushdowns @ 130 lbs: 8, 6, 6
V Bar Pushdowns @ 100 lbs: 6, @ 130: 6, @ 140: 6
Cable Flyes SS w/Cable Punches @ 140 lbs: 6/6, 6/6

Christ almighty. My triceps felt like they were about to rupture walking out of the gym, and my chest is swollen like no other. What an incredible workout. More progress, baby. I'm loving it.

Lately I've been eating like a horse. If it has protein, it disappears. I think I'm probably eating a bit excessively, but I'm okay with that. This morning I clocked in at 173. I'm going to try to ease back a tad so I don't gain to much rubber while on the 4-AD, and then I'll target my flabby ass when I switch to straight 1-Test. For now, it's all about getting strong baby!

Saint Patrick
06-16-2003, 06:05 PM
measured your bf% lately?

Frozenmoses
06-16-2003, 07:23 PM
Tried to last night. I think my calipers are busted. The results were 0.0% bf. If only... Hah!

Frozenmoses
06-17-2003, 02:33 PM
6/17/03

Leg Press @ 2pps: 6, @ 3pps: 6, @ 4pps: 6, 6
Seated Leg Extensions @ 170 lbs: 6, @ 180 lbs: 5, @ 170 lbs: 5.5
Standing Leg Curls @ 80 lbs: 6L, 6R, @ 85 lbs: 6L, 6R, @ 90 lbs: 6L, 6R.

My calves were sore today from playing some midnight basketball with my friends last night, so I decided to abstain from calf work. I also had to stack an assload of wood this morning, so I was already pretty tired going to the gym. My glutes are in pain from the leg pressage. Felt like a pretty damn good leg day, all lifts improved.

Saint Patrick
06-17-2003, 02:53 PM
Just wait until you wake up tomorrow, you'll have some serious assDOMS.


I worked legs for the first time in a month (squats and lunges) on saturday, and it STILL hurts to walk 3 days later.


good work on teh wh33lz

JustinASU
06-17-2003, 05:15 PM
FroMo- Nice workouts bro. Are you upping the volume for the cycle? I'm cutting on my 1-tnt and I've been playing around with upping the volume since I can supposedly do more work than usual.

Frozenmoses
06-18-2003, 07:57 AM
Patty - Damn, I'm wobbling like a penguin this morning. This is rough!

Justin - Thanks man. I've been doing a little bit high on the volume, and I think it's working well. My strength is getting much better and I'm looking visibly bigger in the mirror, so I'm gonna guess that the slightly higher volume is beneficial, especially for me since I've been eating so much.

Mik
06-18-2003, 08:03 AM
Originally posted by Frozenmoses
Tried to last night. I think my calipers are busted. The results were 0.0% bf. If only... Hah!

Damn boy, how do you function at all at 0% bf? ;)

galileo
06-18-2003, 08:09 AM
Just checked out your journal and pic. I must say, yer girl has a very jewel quality to her. Cute!

I'll be setting up shop now.

*pulls out lawnchair*
*grabs some tuna*
*watches*

Frozenmoses
06-18-2003, 08:17 AM
Mik - My organs shut down periodically, but I've got the meanest set of abs this side of the Rio Grande, booyeah.

galile0rz - the woman is butthurt I went to see that new fish movie "Finding Nemo" or whatever with some girls last night while she's at cheerleading camp. She can suck this ninja's duker. I'm gonna need your advice in a few weeks for my cut, by the way. I'm gonna be a fatboy before too long.

:(

Mik
06-18-2003, 08:22 AM
*steals Galileo's tuna*

WillKuenzel
06-18-2003, 08:55 AM
Tuna?


*pulls out beer*




*lays shotgun across lap so Mik don't steal the beer*

Mik
06-18-2003, 08:56 AM
*takes the chance anyway*

*gets hand blown off*

WillKuenzel
06-18-2003, 08:57 AM
:nod: That's right yo!



*tosses Mik a beer* :D

Mik
06-18-2003, 08:59 AM
*beer bounces off stump*

*picks it up with good hand and chugs* :)

galileo
06-18-2003, 10:41 AM
w0rd up. I've found 5 things to be of utmost importance.

1. EFA's (Omega 3's, most specifically)
2. Protein intake
3. Low Insulin carbs
4. Refeeds
5. HIIT cardio

Follow dat **** and you'll lean up no problem.

Frozenmoses
06-18-2003, 12:32 PM
Mik & HY - You jackasses got beer and blood all over my journal. Pwnage!

lilgaelo - Tits advice, homes. I need to get myself some of that oatmeal business, you seem to eat lots of that jazz. Cardio = :(

Frozenmoses
06-18-2003, 12:35 PM
6/18/03

Hammerstrength High Row @ 90 lbs: 6, @ 180 lbs: 6, 6
Hammerstrength Pullover @ 90 lbs: 6, @ 160: 6, @ 180: 4.5, @ 160: 6
Cambered Bar Cable Curls @ 70 lbs: 6, @ 120: 6, 6
Hammerstrength IsoLateral Front Pulldowns @ 180 lbs: 6, 5
BB Curls @ 70 lbs: 6, 4.5
Smith BB Rows @ 115 lbs: 6, @ 165 lbs: 5

I owned today. All lifts went up, and I feel gud. My arm actually looks a bit on the massive side when I hold the BB for curls. If only it would do that all the time.

Mik
06-18-2003, 12:39 PM
what?

Frozenmoses
06-18-2003, 12:47 PM
*pulls out beer*

*lays shotgun across lap so Mik don't steal the beer*

*gets hand blown off*

*beer bounces off stump*

Blood and beer! :p

Mik
06-18-2003, 12:50 PM
Did you not have a post about a new purchase? Or am I losing it?

Frozenmoses
06-18-2003, 01:06 PM
Haha, I had one for about 10 seconds and the link didn't work, so I deleted it. But you're still losing it anyway!

:D

Mik
06-18-2003, 01:15 PM
Bah! :swear:

WillKuenzel
06-18-2003, 01:16 PM
/pwn3d!!1!

JustinASU
06-18-2003, 03:21 PM
Nice back day bra'....:cool:

By the way is your use of machines related to the back condition? I noticed you use a ton of 'em...

Frozenmoses
06-18-2003, 03:47 PM
Justin - Thanks man. Yeah, I use machines for the majority of my lifts because of my spinal condition. Pretty much anything that exerts downward pressure on my spinal column can easily screw my back up worse, so I don't have many options as far as free weights go.

Since I'm training strictly for mass, I actually find this method more effective. I don't have to worry about stabilizers associated with compound lifts, so machines serve that purpose perfectly.

cphafner
06-18-2003, 04:05 PM
i came for the free money and sex, where is it? gimme

BCC
06-18-2003, 05:00 PM
:eek: free money and sex! I'm here.

I'm glad to see you're back into it, good luck with the 1-tnt.

ectx
06-18-2003, 11:14 PM
I see shotguns, beer, and tuna...but I don't see hookers.tuttut

Mik
06-19-2003, 08:15 AM
Godamn false advertising! :swear: :bang:

galileo
06-19-2003, 08:27 AM
Suggested reading:
http://johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/fatroundtable.htm
http://t-forums.t-mag.com/readTopic.do;jsessionid=09A2B4722276EB1CC05D801FD0EBD9B4.ba02?id=285831

The first one details fats, the second shows a guy who had the fasting glucose levels of a Type II diabetic who then turned himself around using omega 3's and healthy eating. Now he bulks without gaining ANY fat. Sick? Studies are showing that omega-3's can help make your fat cells insulin resistant. That = No fat gain. :eek: Check it out.

Frozenmoses
06-20-2003, 11:47 AM
BCC - Thanks for stopping in, duder. I appreciate it.

ec - teh hookers be on the way. Trust me!

Mik - So sue me!

galileo - Awesome reads, man. That guy that bulked without any fat is amazing. I need to do that! Crazy info in there man, I appreciate it.

Frozenmoses
06-20-2003, 11:49 AM
6/19/03

No weights today. I went to a Bigwig show at Sin 13 and did some mosh cardio. I got up on stage for a bit and got jacked by a bouncer, but I jacked him right back so all was well. Afterwards, I got to meet the band, the drummer gave me his drumstick, and I helped them load up all of their equipment. They're really cool guys, and they play with some kickass intensity.

Frozenmoses
06-20-2003, 01:41 PM
6/20/03

Upright BB Rows @ 50 lbs: 8, @ 70: 6, @ 80: 6, 6
Hammerstrength OH Press @ 90 lbs: 6, @ 130: 6, @ 140: 5, @ 130: 3
Slow DB Front Raises @ 15 lbs: 8, 8
Slow DB Lateral Raises @ 20 lbs: 8, 8
Smith BB Shrugs @ 225 lbs: 8, 8

Wow, I really impressed myself today on the HS Overheads. Strength gains have really felt phenomenal lately. The Upright rows totally rocked also. I haven't done them in forever, and I could really feel them hammering my delts. Weighed in at 175 this morning. I'm getting up there! I've been considering running 4-AD for the entire duration of my cycle to see just how big I can get in 8 weeks, and then cutting naturally. It's tough for me to call, because I noticed today that if I were to cut right now and get down to 10%ish bf, I would have a damn good base and I would be cut for the summer. Part of me wants to see just how much muscle I can pack on, though, and not worry about the fat. Arghea0hjeagionhaeg0-398u. I hate decisions.

Mik
06-20-2003, 01:55 PM
Nice workout Mo. I say keep packing on the beef as long as you don't feel you are putting on too much fat. Your strength has really coem back so keep lifting and eating.

JustinASU
06-20-2003, 05:34 PM
Hey there FroMo. Ya know what's strange? I was thinking the same thing about the whole massive bulking with 1-tnt. I wanted to do it just to see how far I can get if I was eating a massive amount and lifting intensely. At the same time I want to see those abs clearly, and get rid of my damn lovehandles. The voice of reason is telling me to cut though I could always do a bulk with the stuff after a 4 week cycle of 6-oxo. Impressive OH pressing strength there bro. Keep up the good work.

btw what's your bf @ right now?

ectx
06-20-2003, 07:41 PM
hey Chuy...lift in 3 weeks? I'll be busy until then, but I'm willing to go to your gay ass gym. PM me and we can make arrangements.

Frozenmoses
06-22-2003, 12:58 PM
Mik - Thanks mang! I'm very tempted to just keep packing on mass, but I'm still torn. I guess I'm just going to try to get my diet perfect for now and see where that takes me.

Justin - Man, I'm glad I'm not the only one. According to my calipers, I'm at around 16-17% bf, but I think that's bull****. I'm probably closer to 20.

ec - Sounds good, boss. I'll drop ya a PM.

Frozenmoses
06-23-2003, 10:01 AM
Weighed in at 178 this morning. This is the biggest I got to during my last bulk, but I was much fatter last time around. This time I actually look like someone who lifts weights! Bonus!

Ashley's ex boyfriend died 2 days ago. She's really upset about it because she told me everyday how much she hated him, and now she feels really guilty. She was with him for almost 3 years, so they have a lot of history. I feel so bad for her.

WillKuenzel
06-23-2003, 10:03 AM
Its tough to deal with something like that no matter who it is. Just be there for her and it'll workout.

Mik
06-23-2003, 10:23 AM
Sorry to hear that MO. Like HY said, just let her know that you are there for her, whatever she needs.

Grats on the weight!

Frozenmoses
06-23-2003, 12:12 PM
Mik & HY - Very true guys. I just need to do my best to comfort her.

6/23/03

Hammerstrength Wide Chest Press @ 90 lbs: 8, @ 200: 6, 5.5, @ 180: 4
V Bar Pushdowns @ 70 lbs: 8, @ 150: 8, 6
Slow Cable Flyes @ 100 lbs: 6, @ 120: 6
Cable Punches @ 160 lbs: 6, 6
Hammerstrength Incline Chest Press @ 90 lbs: 6, @ 140: 3.5, @ 110: 4.5
Skullcrushers @ 50 lbs: 6, @ 60: 6

RANT TIME: Okay, I'm probably a little off base here, and I know this is partially my fault, but I am freaking pissed. Maybe its the 4-AD talking, but I feel like smashing something. My ex-girlfriend Felicia has been driving me insane lately. We never officially broke up, but I guess it was kind of an understood thing. I cheated on her one night when I was drunk (and the only cheating was kissing another girl, nothing else) and I was okay with that. The thing that gets me is she is one of my good friends as well. I mean, even after it happened, she still acted like we were great friends. Well come to find out, my best friend Brandon ran into her best friend at the gas station a few days ago. Apparently Felicia was throwing a party and her friend had permission to invite anyone she wanted except me. What the ****. If she doesn't like me, she needs to just ****ing tell me instead of doing this behind my back bull****. I've called her almost every day this week to talk, and she's never home, and she never returns my calls.

A few weeks ago, I went and saw her at her work. I told her I missed her because I never see her anymore and her response was "And whose fault is that?" EXCUSE ME?! ARE YOU ****ING SERIOUS? While we were dating, she made absolutely ZERO effort to spend time with me. The only time I EVER saw her was at school or when I'd go by her work to visit her. She never once came over to my house or anything. I'm seriously ready to put my head through a brick wall. Girls are ****ing idiots.

WillKuenzel
06-23-2003, 12:16 PM
Dude just let her go. Sounds like she was playing you incase something better didn't come along and when you started dating somebody else it just kind of hit home with her that she hadn't strung you out enough, so now she's ditching you.

You've got girlfriend (pretty one too :D), leave the ex alone. Nothing but trouble there keeping an old wound open.

Frozenmoses
06-23-2003, 12:23 PM
HomeY - Solid advice dude. You're absolutely right. I guess I just wish things could be the way they were before we ever started dating, because we used to have so much fun together. Oh well, the past is the past. I'm much happier with Ash anyway.

Frozenmoses
06-23-2003, 06:09 PM
Mmmmmk, I've worked up a preliminary diet fo' my sizelf. Any input from you asshats would be most appreciated. Obviously it's not the cleanest ever, but it's about as clean as I get.

Meal 1
1 serving Oatmeal - 3F, 27C, 5P, 150 Cal
1 cup skim milk - 0F, 12C, 8P, 90 Cal
1 scoop whey - 2F, 3C, 21P, 115 Cal

Meal 1 Breakdown - 5g Fat - 42g Carbs - 34g Protein - 355 Cals

Meal 2 (PWO)
1/3 cup Dextrose - 0F, 75C, 0P, 292 Cals
2 scoops whey - 4F, 6C, 42P, 230 Cals

Meal 2 Breakdown - 4G Fat - 81g Carbs - 42g Protein - 522 Cals

Meal 3
5 servings tuna - 2.5F, 0C, 65P, 300 Cals
2 tbsp Mircale Whip - 12F, 4C. 0P, 120 Cals
2 slices WW Bread - 2F, 22C, 8P, 120 Cals

Meal 3 Breakdown - 16.5g Fat - 26g Carbs - 73g Protein - 540 Cals

Meal 4
2 servings chicken breast - 8F, 0C, 48P, 240 Cals

Meal 4 Breakdown - 8g Fat - 0g Carbs - 48g Protein - 240 cals

Meal 5
2 servings chicken breast - 8F, 0C, 48P, 240 Cals

Meal 5 Breakdown - 8g Fat - 0g Carbs - 48g Protein - 240 cals

Meal 6
2 tbsp Natty PB - 16F, 6C, 8P, 200 Cals
1 cup skim milk - 0F, 12C, 8P, 90 Cals

Meal 6 Breakdown - 16g Fat - 18g Carrbs - 16g Protein - 290 cals


Daily Breakdown: 57.5g Fat - 157g Carbs - 261g Protein - 2187 Cals

And there you have it. I'm gonna post this in the Diet section, too. Opinions peez!

JustinASU
06-23-2003, 07:42 PM
FroMo, is that a bulking diet? The cals seem very low to me. If its a cutting diet I'd say it looks ace. My cutting diet is very similar except I'm cutting on about 3000 cals, eh, ah well. If it is bulking I'd add in a good bit more cals...And what are you talkin about thats not that clean? It looks damn clean to me...

Frozenmoses
06-23-2003, 08:04 PM
Justin - This is my cutting diet for when I switch from the 1-T/4-AD combo to straight 1-T. As of now, I'm pretty much eating any meat I can get my hands on. I have a pretty slow metabolism, so I think this is right on the money as far as cals go for me. I appreciate the input, bro!

Saint Patrick
06-23-2003, 10:42 PM
I'm with HY - There's a REASON they're ex'es.

And yes, they're F-cking idiots (with a few exceptions).

How do you like the cable punches? I've never tried them.

Mik
06-24-2003, 06:23 AM
Diet looks pretty solid. The only suggestion I might make is increasing your fat intake. But what the hell do I know! :D

galileo
06-24-2003, 08:18 AM
I agree with Mik. You need more EFA's. I'd also suggest lowering your carbs a bit and maybe not doing so much milk.

Frozenmoses
06-24-2003, 09:34 AM
Patty - Yeah, I suppose there are a couple exceptions. I really like cable punches, they are ultra sweet when you superset 'em with cable flyes. It will tear yo' chest up fo' sho'.

Mik - I'ma pick up some FOC's, because after reading lilgaelo's linkage, I think it might help!

gal - Check. I can drop the carbs a wee bit for some EFA's. Whatchoo mean not so much milk, I'm only drinking 2 cups a day! I love my dairy! :cry:

Frozenmoses
06-24-2003, 09:36 AM
Okay, seriously, what the **** is wrong with this world? My grandma died this morning. Well, she wasn't my biological grandmother, but she treated me like her own all of my life, and she was better to me than either of my real grandmothers. She was such a kind and sweet lady. To top it off, one of my best friends calls me this morning and tells me his dad went crazy, threw the entire family out of the house, and is threatening to burn the place down with all of their stuff inside. It feels like the whole ****ing planet has been turned upside down.

WillKuenzel
06-24-2003, 10:01 AM
**** dude! Sorry to hear about all that crap! Seems like when it rains it pours don't it. Just hang tight and be strong for everybody. Tough times are a real test of character but when you've made it through it makes other trials easier to handle.

If you ever need to talk just let me know man. My condolences but best of luck getting it all sorted. You're a strong person and you can get it turned around.

Franjipani
06-24-2003, 12:23 PM
*peeks head in journal*

Hope to see you cheery soon:D.

I almost got to meet you when I was in Texas but ec said you had recently left your old employment.....never mind, another time ;)

Mik
06-24-2003, 12:44 PM
Hang in there MO. You've got the strength to see this through even if it seems like everything is falling apart at the seams. Just make sure you're there for the ones you love and you'll get through it.

Frozenmoses
06-24-2003, 01:37 PM
HY & Mik - Thanks a bunch guys. I swear this place is better than therapy. It's nice to know there are people who genuinely care.

Franji - Welcome to the journal! Hehe I guess you came in kind of at a low point. I wish I had got to meet you when you were in Tejas, but my manager and I had some "creative differences." Teehee.

Frozenmoses
06-24-2003, 04:57 PM
Mmmm, I just had the best meal ever: A pound of ribeye with a bowl of Apple jacks with a scoop of whey mixed in. Bulking is the greatest. I weighed 175 this morning though, kinda odd. I figured I'd be teetering on 179.

Frozenmoses
06-25-2003, 01:30 PM
6/25/03

Leg Press @ 1pps: 8, 2pps: 6, 4pps+25: Miss, 4pps: 6, 4pps+10: 6, 5.5
Hanging Leg Raises: 6, +25lbs: 4, 6
Decline Crunches: 8, +40 lbs: 10, 10
Leg Curls @ 70 lbs: 8/8, @ 95 lbs: 6/6, 6/6
Seated Calf Raises @ 2pps: 10, @ 4pps: 10, @ 5pps: 10

Holy effin' crap. My calves felt like they had been injected with sulfuric acid when I stood up. I can see why you're such a calf jockey, HomeY, that **** rocked my ass.

Last night, my darling mom made me so happy. She knows I've been having kind of a crappy summer with all that has happened, so she suprised me with a 3 day vacation to Cozumel for me and my friend Brandon. My mom's the greatest! That means I'ma have to start this cut early so I can pick up some babes in Mexico. I'm gonna end the 4-AD in a couple of days and start on straight 1-Test. I think I'ma order some liquid clenbutrx too when I get towards the end. That is all, I must now feast.

WillKuenzel
06-25-2003, 01:34 PM
Good workout man! Calves are the best ain't they?! :D

That's awesome your mom is doing that for you! Damn a 3 day vacation to Cozumel! How long before you take off for there?

Frozenmoses
06-25-2003, 01:47 PM
Thanks mang, I think I've been converted to a calf jockey!

I'm not too sure when I'm gonna leave for Cozumel. She got the trip off an auction website and I can use it anytime between now and November, but I think I'm gonna use it either late July or early August.

pruneman
06-25-2003, 04:36 PM
I'm sorry to hear things are kinda down for you right now FM. I know it can be very rough to loose a close family member. I hope things start to look up for you soon! Oh, and have fun in Cozumel! :D

Saint Patrick
06-25-2003, 05:39 PM
that's in mexico right?

Don't drink the water, and beware of montezuma's revenge.

Frozenmoses
06-25-2003, 06:55 PM
prune - Hey man, I appreciate the support. And trust me, I'll make myself have fun in Cozumel. :hump:

Patty - Yup, it's in Mexico. That's a funny story about the water, too. The first time I went to Cozumel, I made it a point to avoid contact with ANY water that came out of a faucet or toilet. I would pee on the ground, and I didn't take a crap for a whole week. My butt was very happy to get home after that trip, hehe.

JustinASU
06-25-2003, 07:06 PM
FroMo -- sorry to hear the sad news man...but hell, it seems like you have plenty of support and a kick ass mom that buys you tropical vacations. :cool: I hope things get better soon. Kickass workout. ABout this liquid clen....IS this supposed to help you drop fat? Have you used it before? Is it useful? If so I might try some...Oh and btw the water isnt THAT bad in Mexico, I showered, shaved, and shat there and had no problems.

Frozenmoses
06-25-2003, 07:25 PM
Justin - Thanks for the support man! Liquid clen is an ECA, which many people seem to think is the most effective of its kind. I've never tried it, but I had good results with Animal Cuts, and if this is better than Cuts, then it should be some good shizzle. Haha yeah now that I've been back a few times I realize the water isn't as bad as I thought, but so many people told me horror stories like I'd get cabbage growing out of my ass and stuff so I was just a little freaked heh.

pruneman
06-25-2003, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by Frozenmoses
Haha yeah now that I've been back a few times I realize the water isn't as bad as I thought, but so many people told me horror stories like I'd get cabbage growing out of my ass and stuff so I was just a little freaked heh.

HAHAHA! LOL!

cabbage is good for you:D

Saint Patrick
06-26-2003, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by pruneman
cabbage is good for you:D


ummm not when it's growing out of your ass.



Come on Moses, post a workout! Get your butt in the gym and lift, boy! It's good for you.

Frozenmoses
06-26-2003, 07:47 AM
Patty - I posted my workout from yesterday. What mo' you want from me, sucka?!


Originally posted by Frozenmoses
6/25/03

Leg Press @ 1pps: 8, 2pps: 6, 4pps+25: Miss, 4pps: 6, 4pps+10: 6, 5.5
Hanging Leg Raises: 6, +25lbs: 4, 6
Decline Crunches: 8, +40 lbs: 10, 10
Leg Curls @ 70 lbs: 8/8, @ 95 lbs: 6/6, 6/6
Seated Calf Raises @ 2pps: 10, @ 4pps: 10, @ 5pps: 10

Saint Patrick
06-26-2003, 09:07 AM
my bad I missed it. good work on the weighted crunches

Frozenmoses
06-26-2003, 03:15 PM
Hehe, danks mang. Just bustin' your balls. :p

6/26/03

Upright BB Rows @ 50 lbs: 8, @ 90: 6, @ 80: 6NG, 6WG
Hammerstrength OH Press @ 90: 8, @ 140: 5.5, @ 120: 6, @ 110: 6, @ 90: 3.5
DB Lat Raises @ 20 lbs: 8, 8
Delt Flyes @ 130: 6, @ 150: 6, @ 120: 6
Smith Shrugs @ 225: 8, 8
DB Front Raises SS w/Lat Raises @ 20 lbs: 6/6, 4/4

Woo, this workout was tough. The OH Press dropset fried me bad. Day-umn. I made sure to use flawless for on the DB raises, and the superset made me wannabeababy. I was almost in tears I tells ya.

Mik
06-27-2003, 07:17 AM
Nice liftin' foo! You've been making some crazy progress.

Have a blast in Mehico mang!

Coke
06-30-2003, 06:59 AM
You are one crazed mang that I have come to like. Have some extra drinks on us in Mexico! :) :)

Frozenmoses
07-02-2003, 06:57 PM
Mik - Danks duder, I'm really liking my gains recently and there's no doubt I'ma tear Mehico up!

CoCoa - Welcome to my journal! I appreciate the kind words, and I think I'll have a whole keg in your honor. :p

I haven't updated in a while because I haven't lifted in a few days. My best buddy in the whole wide world Matt just got back from a 3 week tour of Europe, so I've been hanging out with him. Today was supposed to be leg day, but I tripped and busted my knee last night so I decided to just make up for the lost chest day. Knee is fine, I just think it'd be better to wait til next week to train it.

7/2/03

Hammerstrength Wide Chest Press @ 90 lbs: 8, @ 180: 6, @ 210: 6, 6, @ 200: 2.5
V Bar Pushdowns @ 80 lbs: 8, @ 150: 6, @ 160: 6
Cable Flyes @ 100 lbs: 8, @ 120: 6
Cable Punches @ 120 lbs: 6, @ 180: 6, 6
Skullcrushers @ 60 lbs: 8, 8, @ 70: 6
Machine Flyes @ 100 lbs: 6, @ 130 : 6, @ 150: 6

Holy jeebus. I think every lift was a new PR today. If not it's damn close. I was seriously happy with my chest pressing. Up 10 lbs from last week, and I managed 2 complete sets. Woop! Arms and chest be cashed, baby. Oh, and I tried the liquid clenbutrx today, and that stuff tastes like pure, unadulterated ass. I'ma have to eat a handful of garlic or something to get the taste out of my mouth.

Frozenmoses
07-02-2003, 10:39 PM
Ok, I just got an assload of FOC's, so this is how I'm adjusting my diet plan. I'm not retyping it all because I'm lazy so if you care to look, its on page 4. I'm going to drop the bread from meal 3, and add 10 FOC's to meal 6. That makes the diet 2167 cals, and 65.5 g of fat, 135 g carbs, and 261 g protein. Does this look betta' or should I up the fat intake still?

ectx
07-02-2003, 11:24 PM
Why so much machine work mo?

Frozenmoses
07-02-2003, 11:29 PM
Because I'm a bodybuilder, sucka! I don't need badass stabilizers or anything. I feel when using a machine, I can hit the muscle I want to hit and I can train with more weight and put more stress on said muscle. I don't have to worry about other muscle cashing out on me when I'm trying to isolate.

Mik
07-03-2003, 09:56 AM
I would still up the fat cracker! I try to get around 80-90g of fat and I've noticed a diiference in the mirror over the past couple of weeks.

Frozenmoses
07-03-2003, 10:17 AM
Okee doke, artichoke. Mo' FOC's and PB fer me! Thanks for the tip, Mik.

Frozenmoses
07-03-2003, 12:33 PM
Chuy's Log - Stardate: July 3, 2003

Training:

Hammerstrength OH Press : @ 90 lbs: 8, @ 140 lbs: 6!, @ 150 lbs: 4!, @ 140 lbs: 3.5
Upright BB Rows : @ 50 lbs: 6NG, 6WG, @ 90 lbs: 6NG, 6WG!
Delt Flyes : @ 130 lbs: 6, @ 160 lbs: 6!, 5.5!
DB Lateral Raises : @ 25 lbs: 8!, 8!
DB Front Raises : @ 25 lbs: 8!, 8!
Behind The Back Smith Shrugs : @ 135 lbs: 8, @ 225 lbs: 8, 8, 8!

Commentary: : Awesome day today. My chest was still quite sore from yesterday's workout, but I was still able to pump out an assload more PR's. I also saw my manager from Casey's there, his eyes got huge when he saw me. Before he even said hello, he said "Holy sh!t you got big!" I was grinning from ear to ear.

Frozenmoses
07-03-2003, 08:18 PM
Weighed in at 179 this morning. I just went and played around with Fitday, and I've decided I want to hit 165 or 160 by August 27, which is when I start school. Right now, I'm going to take a guess and say I'm at 20%bf, while I'm actually probably at around 17 or 18. Regardless, if I hit 165 and keep my LBM or add some during the 1-Test, I should be at around 10-12% bf. That would be ace.

Mik
07-04-2003, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by Frozenmoses
I also saw my manager from Casey's there, his eyes got huge when he saw me. Before he even said hello, he said "Holy sh!t you got big!" I was grinning from ear to ear.

Gotta love those comments. Nice work foo!

Frozenmoses
07-04-2003, 04:09 PM
Thanks Mik. Not too many things feel quite as good as a good ego stroking, except a... well, nevermind.

Frozenmoses
07-04-2003, 04:17 PM
Chuy's Log - Stardate: July 4, 2003

Training:

DB Rows : @ 40 lbs: 8/8, @ 60: 8/8, @ 75: 6/6
WG Lat Pulldowns : @ 100 lbs: 6, @ 140: 6, @ 160: 5
BB Curls : @ 80 lbs: 6!, 3.5, @ 70: 6 WG
Hammerstrength High Row : @ 180 lbs: 6, @ 220: 6!
Hammerstrength Preacher Curls : @ 50 lbs: 6, @ 65: 6, @ 75: 6

Commentary: Not a bad pull day. A few PR's, and I tried out a few lifts I haven't done in a while. Last night my arms got this strange sore feeling that would burn for a minute then go away every time I rolled over in my sleep, and I could still feel it during my workout. It doesn't feel like your normal case of DOMS, so I'm not exactly sure what the deal is. Oh well. Dropped 3 lbs since yesterday morning, I'm guessing it's water. I'm glad to see it, too. I always know that when I lose a big amount in such a short period that my diet is working as it eats the water first. Skinny Wade, watch yo' ass, the fat Wade is comin' for ya!

176 lbs

Frozenmoses
07-05-2003, 01:53 PM
Damn, last night was tough for me. I went to my friend's 4th of July party at the lake, and there was all the alcohol and weed one could want. It was rough abstaining from it, especially considering EVERYONE there except one person was trying to get me to drink. I held my ground, though, and I came back home. Two of my friends came with me and I mixed them some drinks, and Ashley and her friend came over. Ashley was so wasted, it was hilarious. I don't thnk I've ever seen a more funny drunk in my life. She kept trying to get me drunk too, and damn was I tempted, but I held fast. This is gonna be a tough 6 weeks.

Franjipani
07-05-2003, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by Frozenmoses
It was rough abstaining from it, especially considering EVERYONE there except one person was trying to get me to drink. I held my ground, though, and I came back home

Its funny how uncomfortable it makes others feel when you obstain from drinking....More power to ya dude:thumbup:. I was right there with ya..... I'm on the wagon too...although I do have a cheat day tomorrow...'m soooooo looking forward to it :D :D

Frozenmoses
07-06-2003, 02:35 PM
Thanks for the support, Franji! I hope your cheat day goes well, so have one on me!!

In other news, sticking to this diet has made me feel great. Not only do I feel great psychologically, but I also feel great physically. My friends are amazed at the willpower I have to eat for utility and not pleasure. I also have a bunch more energy, and I always feel full. Those FOC's work wonders, baby.

Weight: 175.5 lbs.

Mik
07-07-2003, 09:01 AM
Nice work MO! Sounds like you're making awesome progress. The FOCs are great. I can see a difference with them.

Frozenmoses
07-07-2003, 01:31 PM
Mik - Dankjoo, brudda. These FOC's really get the job done. I mean, I'm able to already see some alterations in the mirror since I've started them (or maybe it's the 1-TNT, but who cares, something is working!) It really makes a world of difference to have a high-fat diet. I can keep my calories relatively low whilst feeling full at the same time. Ace ace ace!

Frozenmoses
07-07-2003, 01:36 PM
Chuy's Log - Stardate: July 7, 2003

Training:

Hammerstrength Wide Chest Press : @ 90 lbs: 8, @ 180 lbs: 6, @ 220 lbs: 6!, @ 230 lbs: 4.5!, @ 200: 4
Hammerstrength Incline Chest Press : @ 110: 6, @ 140: 4.5
Cable Punches : @ 120 lbs: 8/8, @ 200 lbs: 6!/6!, 6!/6!
Hammerstrength Dips : @ 180 lbs: 6, @ 230 lbs: 4!
Machine Flyes : @ 120 lbs: 6, @ 160 lbs: 6!, @ 140 lbs: 5.5

Commentary: Great chest day. The PR's never seem to stop, man. I'm gonna hate ending this 1-TNT cycle, because these gains have been phenomenal for me. I saw a friend yesterday who went on a school trip to Europe for 4 weeks, and when he saw me, he almost didn't recognize me. I can't really judge my progress because I see myself every day, but the people who I don't see very often really seem impressed with what I've done so far. It really makes me feel good, and I know that I'm accomplishing something.

175 lbs

WillKuenzel
07-07-2003, 02:18 PM
Geez teh Chuy is hardcore if he is abstaining from the drinking and smoking. :thumbup: Good luck with the cut even though it doesn't appear you'll need it since things are going good. Weight is dropping but the strength is going up. Definitely sounds like you are doing something right.

JustinASU
07-07-2003, 02:26 PM
What's happenin' FroMo? Good thing you dont have like 10 extra pages for me to catch up on since I've been gone for a week. It seems like you're making phenomenol (sp) progress so far man. Strength in those workouts is awesome. About the FOCs, I started taking these a week ago and yeah they're a miracle supplement. They really help during a cut and I've read somewhere that they will actually help drop bodyfat. They have made my top 5 suppements list.

I can totally relate about being that one guy that isn't drinking or smoking weed at the party. It's a hard thing to do. I am constantly wrestling with my conscience to keep the dicipline for my cut and my health in general. Although I think soon I may have to indulge a bit and have a smoke...it's just too good sometimes.

fuzz
07-07-2003, 03:13 PM
Hey what are your plans for post-cycle recovery?

Frozenmoses
07-07-2003, 03:28 PM
HY - I appreciate the kind words, boy-o. Hopefully this keeps up and I'ma be teh sexeh.

Justin - Hey man, great to have ya back! FOC's are definitely one of my staple supplements now, I don't think I could get by without em now, heh. You're totally right about the smoking/drinking thing. It's tough, but I'm not going to be a nazi about it. It's the summer time, I just graduated, and I'm going to let myself have a little fun (keyword: little). I think I might indulge once or twice during the rest of my cycle, but not heavily, and I don't think it will have any negative effect on my progress.

fuzz - I've got 2 bottles of 6-OXO sittin' on the counter. I'm gonna start using my liquid clenbutrx as well during post-cycle to cut up that last little bit, and maybe get down to the 7-8% range. Thanks for stopping by!

fuzz
07-07-2003, 11:01 PM
Good luck with your cut. I know bout the temptations of cheating - I'm throwing a big party this weekend and there will be too much good beer around. The key is to keep your cheat days few and far between if they are going to be extreme - or just have one beer a week or something if you perfer moderation (whats that? :) )

cphafner
07-08-2003, 08:33 AM
Originally posted by Frozenmoses
considering EVERYONE there except one person was trying to get me to drink.


peer pressure is a biatch. I took 2 months off from drinking(while living in my frat house to boot) to prove to myself I could do it, and also to get more into my workouts. My frat brothers gave me crap every night about drinking. Its all worth it in the end though. I would catch half their girlfriends checking me out and looking at their guys beer bellys. Good luck with the cut. Question about foc's. What brand do you use and where do you get them. I was looking at a drug store by me and they seemed really expensive.

Frozenmoses
07-08-2003, 11:20 AM
cp - Hey man, I bet that was brutal in a frat house, jeez. The FOC's I use are Optimum Nutritions softgels. You can get a crapload of them for cheap from 1fast400.

http://www.1fast400.com/product_info.php?products_id=44

cphafner
07-08-2003, 12:31 PM
Moses: I appreciate the info. That same bottle was about 8 or 9 bucks at the drug store.

Frozenmoses
07-08-2003, 01:49 PM
cp - Not a problem, my brotha. I suggest you stock up, they really help out.

Mik
07-08-2003, 01:52 PM
Mmmmmmmmmmm FOCs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Frozenmoses
07-08-2003, 02:02 PM
Chuy's Log - Stardate: July 7, 2003

Training:

Leg Press : @ 2pps: 8, @ 4pps: 6, Dropset: @ 4 pps: 6, @ 3pps: 9, @ 2pps: 12, @ 1pps: 15
Calf Raises : @ 3pps: 10, @ 5pps: 10, @ 5+25: 10, Dropset: @ 5+25: 14, @ 5pps: 9, @ 4pps: 8, @ 3pps: 10, @ 2pps: 12, @ 1pps: 12
Leg Curls : @ 80lbs: 8/8, @ 100lbs: 8/8, @ 90lbs: 6/6
Cable Twists : @ 40lbs: 8, @ 80lbs: 8, @ 110lbs: 8

Commentary: Wow, walking is not my friend after this workout. Those dropsets seriously annihilated any normal motor function in the lower half of my body. I also did some various ab work experimenting with some 8 rep weighted crunch sit-ups which felt really good to the ol' abs, but I really wasn't sure how to note it in my journal so just take my word for it.

175 lbs

Frozenmoses
07-08-2003, 02:02 PM
Mik - You're an addict. So am I! Bwahahaha!

Mik
07-08-2003, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by Frozenmoses
I also did some various ab work experimenting with some 8 rep weighted crunch sit-ups which felt really good to the ol' abs, but I really wasn't sure how to note it in my journal so just take my word for it.

175 lbs

I don't believe you. :D

WillKuenzel
07-08-2003, 02:08 PM
your Calf Raises = teh cool

Good job man!

Frozenmoses
07-08-2003, 03:17 PM
Mik - I shoot nonbelievers with extreme prejudice. Consider yourself marked, sucka!

HY - Dankyoo, calfmassah. I'll get there one of these days!

Frozenmoses
07-08-2003, 09:10 PM
Just a small update, I'm starting back up on the 4-AD. This lethargy has been killing me lately, and I'm hoping this will help. Still cutting, howevah. Diet was ace as fuhk too.

Frozenmoses
07-09-2003, 02:46 PM
Chuy's Log - Stardate: July 9, 2003

Training:

Hammerstrength OH Press : @ 90 lbs: 8, @ 140 lbs: 6, @ 150 lbs: 6!, 6!, @ 140 lbs: 5
DB Front Raises : @ 20 lbs: 8/8, @ 30 lbs: 4!/4!, @ 25 lbs: 8/8
Cable Delt Flyes : @ 60 lbs: 8, @ 80 lbs: 8, @ 100 lbs: 6
Upright BB Rows : @ 70 lbs: 8, @ 90 lbs: 8!, @ 100 lbs: 6!
DB Lateral Raises : @ 20 lbs: 8, @ 30 lbs: 8!, @ 25 lbs: 6
Trap Bar Shrugs : @ 1 pps: 10, @ 1+25: 10
Single Arm Cable Shrugs : @ 80 lbs: 10/10, @ 110 lbs: 10/10, @ 140 lbs: 10/10
Delt Flyes : @ 120 lbs: 8, @ 170 lbs: 4!, @ 160 lbs: 4, @ 140 lbs: 3.5


Commentary: Damn son, this was a nice workout for me. Once again I amazed myself on the HS Overheads. I went to GNC (yeah, so?!) and the guy who works there remembered me. He didn't even ask me if I needed help, he just went "Damn man you've put on some mass!" Heehee for me. All in all, great day.

174.5 lbs

Coke
07-10-2003, 10:04 AM
Have you put on some size mang? lol, ...
Nice shoulder work dude!

:spam:

Mik
07-10-2003, 10:16 AM
Woohoo MO! Sounds like you're getting way too many compliments. Careful, your head may get too big.

Nice work mang.

JustinASU
07-10-2003, 03:31 PM
That's some crazy ass volume on the shoulder day FroMo. Nice work! I haven't seen the benefits I thought I'd see from cutting on 1-tnt :( I'm glad you're getting something good out of it.

Frozenmoses
07-15-2003, 07:22 PM
Just got back from the beach. Woo, good times. Seeing Ashley and her friends in bikinis made the college orientation worth the suckage.

CoCoa - lol, thanks a bunch for the kind words!

Mik - I appreciate it baby. And I don't think I can get any cockier than I already am :p

Justin - Hehe, thanks mang. I'm sorry to hear you aren't getting the results you wanted from the 1-tnt. I guess everyone reacts to it differently.

Frozenmoses
07-15-2003, 07:28 PM
Chuy's Log - Stardate: July 15, 2003

Training:

Hammerstrength Incline Chest Press : @ 90 lbs: 8, @ 140 lbs: 6!, @ 160 lbs: 4!, @ 140 lbs: 3.5
Hammerstrength Wide Chest Press : @ 90 lbs: 6, @ 180 lbs: 6, @ 230 lbs: 3.5, @ 200 lbs: 3.5
DB Kickbacks (shut your damn mouth!) : @ 20 lbs: 8/8, 8/8
Straight Bar Cable Tricep Extensions : @ 60 lbs: 8, @ 70 lbs: 6
Incline DB Flyes : @ 25 lbs: 8
Dips : @ BW: 8, 8
Machine Flyes : @ 100 lbs: 6, @ 130 lbs: 6, @ 170 lbs: 3!

Commentary: Not a bad day at all. My diet wasn't too great at the beach so I think that might've messed my weight up. Today was my first time to ever try DB kickbacks, and as much as people hate on them, they made my triceps burn like a motherf*ck. The only reason I did them anyways was some assclown was hogging the cable section so I couldn't do cable punches, so I figured what the hell.

Weight Unknown

Mik
07-15-2003, 07:30 PM
Nice chest day Mo. Wow, nice weights man. *teehee he did kickbacks* :p

JustinF
07-15-2003, 07:34 PM
LOL at kickbacks. Nice session though.
Oh, and :spam:

ectx
07-16-2003, 12:06 AM
Dig the new format Mo. How was teh beach? Nice chest day...you pansy...when you leaving for hurricane central? Lemme know so we can go lift, foo'.

Frozenmoses
07-16-2003, 12:54 PM
Mik y Justin - Thanks guys! Laugh all ya want, but these kickbacks are gonna give me mad tone, baby!. :D

ec - Thanks sucka. The beach was pretty nice, weather was ace. I really liked the A&M campus, but I was kinda upset with the schedule I got. The astronomy program is brand new there and it was already filled, so I was going to go the physics route but that had schedule conflicts left and right, so now I'm doing calculus. Math is teh gay. My move in date for the hizouse is August 10th, so I'm up for whenever you be!

Frozenmoses
07-16-2003, 01:01 PM
Chuy's Log - Stardate: July 16, 2003

Training:

DB Lunges : @ BW: 12, @ 25 lbs 12, @ 35 lbs: 12, @ 40 lbs: 8
Hammerstrength Leg Curl : @ 45 lbs: 8, @ 90 lbs: 6, @ 100 lbs: 6
Seated Calf Extensions : @ 3pps: 12, @ 5pps: 10, Dropset: 6pps: 9, 5pps: 10, 4pps: 12, 3pps: 15, 2pps: 18, 1pps: 20
Graduated Decline Crunches : +35 lbs: 8, 8, 6, 8
Cable Crunches : @ 60 lbs: 8, @ 110 lbs: 10, @ 150 lbs: 12, @ 170 lbs: 8

Commentary: Woo, I liked this session. This was my first time doing lunges seriously, and they had my ass hurtin'! The calf work was brutal as well. One guy that was on the legpress machine before me watched me do the dropset and said it looked like I was giving birth towards the end. Damn.

178 :(

Mik
07-16-2003, 08:04 PM
Schweet day Mo. I've never done lunges, you liking them? Do you do walking lunges?

Frozenmoses
07-16-2003, 10:31 PM
Mik - Dude, lunges hit the ass like no other. I just did the alternating lunges as there wasn't much room to do a walk in. You can really feel them hitting your entire upper leg, but damn, they really smash the glutes. To hell with squatters ass, I'm gonna grow a lungers ass.

aka23
07-16-2003, 11:46 PM
I agree. When I first started doing lunges, they used to make me more sore than any other exercise. Longer steps place more emphasis on the glutes, while shorter steps place more emphasis on the quads.

Coke
07-17-2003, 11:14 AM
Looks like another exercises I will have to add into the program from time to time - Thanks FroMo :rolleyes:

WillKuenzel
07-17-2003, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by Frozenmoses
To hell with squatters ass, I'm gonna grow a lungers ass.

I'm glad more people are realizing this. I've been telling people about this forever but nobody ever listens to me. "No, no, squat!" they say. I have the stretch marks on my ass to attest to the fact that lunges will hit dat ass.

I make room to do them walking. Start tossing the crap out of the way. Walking lunges will really get ya!

ectx
07-17-2003, 12:13 PM
LMAO @ ghetto booty Homoyield.

Coke
07-18-2003, 02:16 PM
LMAO @ FroMo bootyo

JustinASU
07-21-2003, 07:23 PM
FroMo, How're things man? Your progress is coming along nicely. Are ya still cutting? When are we gonna see some progress pics?

btw I'm just not used to being lean. The 1-tnt was a good boost but I think I'm gonna do injectables next time around. I'm still cutting naturally and making good fat loss gains.

Frozenmoses
07-25-2003, 10:40 AM
Ugh. This past week has not been good for me. I've had a billion things going on, and as a result, my diet and training have suffered. My weight is horrible, so much so that I'm afraid to step on a scale, because I'm fairly certain that I'm heavier now than when I started my cut.

I'm going to try my best to continue my cut, but I know I'm not going to get the results I want now. Life just throws you a curve sometimes, and you have to move on. I just have to stay focused.

Justin - I will post some pics on August 27. That was the deadline I had set for my cut. I'll probably still look like crap, and will have to continue cutting, but we'll see. I think you're right on injectables. If I decide to try another cycle of anything in the future, I will probably be going the same route.

WillKuenzel
07-25-2003, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by ectx
LMAO @ ghetto booty Homoyield.

Don't be jealous yo!


Hey, FroMo, have you taken that trip to Mexico your mom got for ya?

Frozenmoses
07-25-2003, 02:54 PM
HY - Sure haven't, bro. To be honest with you, I'm not sure I'm even going to be able to go until later this year. My family is going crazy right now, to tell ya the truth. Not only am I trying to get my crap together to move in 3 weeks, but my parents are in the process of remodelling our current house right now, my mom is getting ready to sell off her San Antonio surgery center, which means she's getting ready to start building yet another one. Lucky for me, I can take the trip any time I want, so there's no pressure to get it out of the way (and it's a damn vacation, I don't need no damn pressure!) If I don't take it within the next few weeks, I'm probably gonna take it sometime later on this year.

Frozenmoses
07-25-2003, 02:57 PM
Okay, gonna update what I've been to busy to enter here. Even if my diet has sucked this past week, my strength has been great. Life doesn't always blow! Woop!

Frozenmoses
07-25-2003, 03:02 PM
Chuy's Log - Stardate: July 17, 2003

Training:

Hammerstrength OH Press : @ 90 lbs: 8, @ 140 lbs: 6, @ 160 lbs: 4!, @ 150 lbs: 5, @ 140 lbs: 2.5
Upright BB Rows : @ 70 lbs: 8, @ 110 lbs: 4!, @ 100 lbs: 6
DB Lateral Raises : @ 20 lbs: 8, @ 30 lbs: 8, 8!
BB Shrugs : @ 135 lbs: 12, @ 225 lbs: 10!, @ 245 lbs: 8!
Single Arm Cable Shrugs : @ 150 lbs: 10/10, @ 170 lbs: 10/10!
DB Front Raises : @ 30 lbs: 8/8!, 4/4
Delt Flyes : @ 120 lbs: 8, @ 170 lbs: 8!, @ 160 lbs: 7

Commentary: Great workout. Intensity was way up there throughout.

Weight Unknown

Frozenmoses
07-25-2003, 03:06 PM
Chuy's Log - Stardate: July 20, 2003

Training:

Seated NG Cable Rows : @ 120 lbs: 10, @ 150 lbs: 8, @ 170 lbs: 8. Stack: 6
BB Curls : @ 50 lbs: 8, @ 70 lbs: 8, 8
BB Rows : @ 115 lbs: 8, 8
Hammerstrength High Rows : @ 90 lbs: 8, @ 180 lbs: 6, @ 230 lbs: 4
BB Preacher Curls : @ 60 lbs: 8, 6

Commentary: Coulda been better, but I don't really remember much about this workout since it happened so friggin' long ago!

Weight Unknown

Frozenmoses
07-25-2003, 03:10 PM
Chuy's Log - Stardate: July 21, 2003

Training:

Hammerstrength Wide Chest Press : @ 90 lbs: 8, @ 180 lbs: 6, @ 230 lbs: 6!, @ 240 lbs: 3.5!
Hammerstrength Incline Chest Press : @ 90 lbs: 6, @ 160 lbs: 5!. @ 140 lbs: 4
Cable Flyes : @ 100 lbs: 6, @ 140 lbs: 4
Cable Punches : @ 140 lbs: 6/6, @ 200 lbs: 8/8!
Skulls : @ 50 lbs: 8, @ 60 lbs: 6, 8
Flyes : 130 lbs: 6, @ 170 lbs: 6/6!

Commentary: Nice chest day. I'm really excited about my pressing strength increases. I can't wait to have 3 plates/side on the Wide Chest Press.

Weight Unknown

Frozenmoses
07-25-2003, 03:16 PM
Chuy's Log - Stardate: July 25, 2003

Training:

Hammerstrength OH Press : @ 90 lbs: 8, @ 140 lbs: 6, @ 160 lbs: 6!, 4, @ 150 lbs: 4
DB Lateral Raises : @ 25 lbs: 8, @ 35 lbs: 4
Delt Flyes : @ 130 lbs: 8, @ 180 lbs: 4!, @ 170 lbs: 5
Upright Rows : @ 70 lbs: 6, @ 110 lbs: 3, @ 90 lbs: 7
DB Front Raises : @ 35 lbs: 6/6!
BB Front Raises : @ 50 lbs: 8
DB Front Raise/Side Rotations : @ 20 lbs: 6, 6
Single Arm Cable Shrugs : @ 140 lbs: 10/10, @ 180 lbs: 10/10!, @ Stack: 6/6!

Commentary: Pretty sweet session. I focused more on form and contraction on the Upright Rows, hence the number slippage. Still feeling strong, if a wee bit bloated. Clenbutrx is crack.

Weight Unknown

Coke
07-27-2003, 08:45 AM
Nice sessions FroMo!

I hear you about the 'weight unknown' - I don't know either and really hate the scale in some ways and avoid it as of late :D

Frozenmoses
07-30-2003, 07:00 PM
CoCoa - Thanks for stoppin' by! I agree with you totally. At this point in my training, I keep looking at myself in the mirror, and while I've still got quite a bit of fat, I realize that if I cut down a whole lot, I would have the skinny-muscle guy physique, but I'm not so sure that's what I want now. Since I've been training after my back injury, my arms have grown an inch and a half, my chest and back look much more broad, and my shoulders have widened a lot. If I were to cut down now, I would lose a bunch of size, and I'm starting to think that I need to get big enough to cut down and still look big. Either way, my strength is still going up as of now, and I'd like to keep it that way.

I'd like to apologize for not updating my journal in a while, but my computer is out of commission right now. I'll try to have it online by next week, but no promises! I'll see ya'll around...