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Yoshimi
06-11-2003, 04:09 PM
Has anybody tried these? I just held the bar in the crook of my elbows like zercher squat and bent over with a round back and semi straight legs. I did 2 sets of 15 with 115lbs It pumped the hell out of my low back. Are there any other bro's on this board doing a Westside routine?

raniali
06-11-2003, 04:12 PM
i would think that this could be a recipe for a back sprain if you go heavy .... visualizing this, it seems one would be prone to rolling shoulders forward instead of keeping them back (and therefore keeping the back straight).

Chris Rodgers
06-11-2003, 05:48 PM
When I go heavy on zerchers I basically end up using mostly back to get it up. They are excellent. I have done up to 290 off the floor and 345 or so from a standing position.

RG570
06-11-2003, 06:49 PM
you're asking for trouble

Adam
06-11-2003, 07:07 PM
Zerchers are the best!
I've gone up to 4 plates doing them, there great for building your back up.

GhettoSmurf
06-11-2003, 07:40 PM
yeah but zercher GM's? i mean zercher squats look good. but friggin GM's with them??

Paul Stagg
06-12-2003, 07:19 AM
Sure. Why not?

Yes there are a number of people who train WSB or variations thereof here.

Tryska
06-12-2003, 08:54 AM
does anyone have a visual for this? i don't even know what a zercher squat looks like.

GhettoSmurf
06-12-2003, 10:05 AM
http://www.bsu.edu/webapps/strengthlab/images/zsquat.mpg

Tryska
06-12-2003, 10:14 AM
wow - i don't know that my arms are strong enough to handle that, but it looks liek it's worth a shot.

here's a question - got a friend who compressed a disk or something squatting ehavy, and now he needs to find an alternative to squatting - do you think he could do these without worrying about spinal compression?

Paul Stagg
06-12-2003, 10:18 AM
I'd have him ask a doc. It's *probably* better, but there will still be compression as the weight is still being supported ultimately by the spine.

Tryska
06-12-2003, 10:32 AM
yeah - that's a good point.

Frozenmoses
06-12-2003, 10:39 AM
Tryska - I have a ruptured disk from a degenerative spinal condition I have which was aggrivated by deadlifting. For safety's sake, your friend should probably stick to lifts that don't exert much, if any axial pressure.

Tryska
06-12-2003, 10:45 AM
ok - what have you been doing for legs moses?

APE.
06-12-2003, 12:36 PM
Tryska;your friend can try Hip Belt squats. The weight hangs from a belt that attaches to a barbell hanging between the thighs; leaving no pressure what soever on the disk.Also allows for more concentration on the squat w/o having to balance.

Tryska
06-12-2003, 12:56 PM
does one end of the barbell rest on the floor or something?

WillKuenzel
06-12-2003, 01:00 PM
Doesn't look too fun but it might work.

http://www.langhampark.com/pullum/listings/60.html

Tryska
06-12-2003, 01:15 PM
looks kinda like what happens when you hit a pothole with your bike. :eek:

APE.
06-12-2003, 05:59 PM
Trust me it works wonders.There is totaly no stress on the spine.And you can really dig deep in force out the reps w/ this.I gained close to an inch and a half in 6 weeks w/ the belt + my back pain stopped.
If a prsn should option to try this I reccomend to try w/ a curl bar or a 5ft. bar. Easier to maneuver w/.