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unshift
06-26-2003, 06:04 PM
now... every time i bring this up, everybody says "why do it if you're not training for a specific sport?"

i wanna train for a sport now... the sport of lifting :)

what would be the best way to (safely) go about learning olympic lifts and incorporating them into my routine? i'm not looking to compete... i'm actually looking to get nice and strong and probably plateau, i don't really care. bodybuilding lifting isn't really my style, because i don't really care about getting big.

now, because i am a poor student, i can't get a trainer or coach to help me. (and i checked, my school has no lifting team :)) what's the best way of going about leaning these lifts properly? just watching/reading/etc and practice with just the bar?

Ja113
06-27-2003, 08:15 AM
Well...if you can find someone (not necessarily a coach) who can show you some stuff that would be good....but here are a few sites you can check out...You can learn by yourself to an extent but sooner or later, a coach would be good.

http://danjohn.org/coach.html
http://www.olympus.net/personal/cablebar/index.htm

These are two sites that really helped me get started!

paty boy
06-27-2003, 10:28 AM
Olympic Lifting Portal (http://www.fdzine.com/olympiclifter/index.html) - excellent resource for all things related to oly lifting

JV Askem's site (the second link posted by Ja113) is a really good site to read up on. His site is usually recommended to newbs on the oly forums.

Get comfortable squatting and make sure your form is in check. Front squat, back squat, overhead squat, snatch balance. These will all build up your strength and flexibility needed for oly lifts. You should just start practicing the oly lifts with a broom or something similar until you get comfortable with the motion.

benchmonster
06-27-2003, 12:55 PM
Get a coach, and find a good one if at all possible. Olympic lifting is so technical, and so technique driven, that it would be extremely difficult to gain any proficiency at it without proper instruction.

And if you want to compete in olympic lifting, find out who in your area is putting on competitions and go to them for some help in getting started. Most people in the iron game who are worth a **** are very happy to help others out.

B.

benchmonster
06-27-2003, 01:01 PM
Well, I just re read your post, and you are not interested in competing. Then why bother? Olympic lifting is dangerous, and destroys your knees. And if you are doing it alone, and not in competition, it ain't a "sport". That is like calling whacking your pud sex.

If you are just wanting to get strong and athletic and don't particularly care about competing in oly. lifting or powerlifting, find any and every thing you can written by Pavel Tsatsouline, and that is the correct spelling. He writes about real life functional strength and is a former trainer for the soviet special forces. He knows a lot about being strong without getting big.

Also check out dragondoor.com very good website for those seeking real world functional strength.

B.

PowerManDL
06-27-2003, 01:19 PM
I'm inclined to agree, honestly.....though if you're really that keen on doing some OL work, keep it limited to the power versions of the lifts.

That tends to save a lot of wear and tear on the knees in the long run, and the lifts are a lot easier to do that way.

Manveet
06-27-2003, 01:28 PM
find any and every thing you can written by Pavel Tsatsouline

Does anyone have any links to some of his articles etc.?

WillKuenzel
06-27-2003, 01:30 PM
Powerman, when you say the power version of the lifts, this means that the full front squat is left out of the lift?

PowerManDL
06-27-2003, 01:39 PM
Yes.

You just dip under the bar to catch it, instead of dropping to a front squat (for the clean) or an overhead squat (for the snatch).

benchmonster
06-27-2003, 03:39 PM
I have no problem with overhead squats, I do them regularly and they are very beneficial. I do them to full olympic depth, too, I just don't bounce into and out of them. I also think front squats are great, if you can do them. I cannot rack the barbell, so I have to do front squats with kettlebells, which is not the same, but we have to do what we can.

That being said, I would not think that doing lots of snatches and clean and jerks are a necessity unless you are going to be competing as an olympic lifter, but what makes you a good olympic lifter will definately make you strong in other endeavors.

B.

unshift
06-27-2003, 07:09 PM
thanks for the replies guys...

i guess i'm only looking to learn the clean (and maybe the snatch) just for the hell of it, and i'll read more about the real-world strength without size stuff you recommended. i incorporated front squats and overhead squats (no weight though) into leg day today. i think it has more than just muscle benefits, as i can tell they helped me a bit with balance and such. i think i'll keep doing them too, i really liked the feeling i got.

so far as olympic lifting, i guess it's not really required. but by "olympic" i wasnt talking about competition, but just strength routines other than bodybuilding style... i figured guys in the olympics trained the same way i wanted to (but i guess not!)

anyhow thanks again for the replies :)