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Plastik
06-28-2003, 09:37 AM
I heard milk is good due to it's slow digestive properties.
I usually eat an hour before bed. Now here's my question. What if I sleep late? Am I doing *more* harm ? I can't help but sleep late somedays and I know sleep is crucial in muscle recovery...as well as proper nourishment of the muscles.
So whats a guy to do?

JohnnyAutoParts
06-28-2003, 09:59 AM
Milk is one of the best items you could consume before going to sleep. I have the same problem of needing sleep and also needing to wake up a few hours earlier to fit in an extra meal or two. This is a tough question with too many variables to give an exact answer, but as a general guideline, I would get on a sleep schedule where you would get exactly 8 hours every night, which would prevent you from having to have 12 hour catch-up nights where your body truly becomes catabolic. Good luck to both of us.

bradley
06-28-2003, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by Plastik
I heard milk is good due to it's slow digestive properties.
I usually eat an hour before bed. Now here's my question. What if I sleep late? Am I doing *more* harm ? I can't help but sleep late somedays and I know sleep is crucial in muscle recovery...as well as proper nourishment of the muscles.
So whats a guy to do?


If you know you will be sleeping late just mix up a shake or something and throw it in the fridge. I am sure you will wake up once over the course of the night, and at that time you could just drink the shake.

Although I don't think it should be that much of a concern if this just happens every now and then. If you were getting 12 hours of sleep every night then it might be cause for concern, but otherwise I do not think you are doing any "harm."

Behemoth
06-28-2003, 02:25 PM
Uh ohh... I've been averaged 11-12 hours of sleep so far over the summer. Is it really that big of a deal?

SquareHead
06-28-2003, 02:28 PM
Man I totaly wish I could get that much sleep!!!

AdamGberg
06-28-2003, 02:29 PM
sometimes i go to sleep around 2 am and wake up at noon! 19 years old :rolleyes:!

i try to eat some cottage cheese and have some milk before i go to bed too...any other recomendations?

JohnnyAutoParts
06-28-2003, 03:23 PM
its seems like natty pb is a good choice before bed as well.

bradley
06-28-2003, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by Behemoth
Uh ohh... I've been averaged 11-12 hours of sleep so far over the summer. Is it really that big of a deal?

Will it make that much of a difference, probably not. If you wake up at night you might think about having a shake, cottage cheese, glass of milk, etc., but IMO it is not something that is crucial.

I would definitely make sure that you have some sort of food right before you go to bed though.

Mic Soloist
06-30-2003, 01:39 AM
I usually have a MetRx protein shake and a glass of milk b4 bed. If not then I have some natty p-nut butter, cottage cheese, and a glass of milk. Sometime I have all of the above:moon:

-PEACE-

Ironman8
06-30-2003, 11:29 AM
I usually have to TBSPs or natty PB. And I found out it helps me sleep better :)

rgkfit
07-02-2003, 07:32 PM
Any casein protein is a good option, it gels in the stomach before digestion resulting in a steady slow stream of amino acids into the bloodstream. Throw in a spoonful of flax oil for good measure.

GonePostal
07-02-2003, 07:49 PM
Do you guys wake up during sleep??? I NEVER wake up when I go to sleep. Not even to go to the bathroom...

rgkfit
07-03-2003, 04:52 PM
If you are on a gain, mix a protein shake with lots of ice and a tbsp. or 2 of flax oil, and set it by the bed on your nightstand. If you wake after about 3-4 hrs. after your last meal, chug some down and go back to sleep. If you don't wake up, then just put it in the fridge for another time.

bradley
07-04-2003, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by rgkfit
If you are on a gain, mix a protein shake with lots of ice and a tbsp. or 2 of flax oil, and set it by the bed on your nightstand. If you wake after about 3-4 hrs. after your last meal, chug some down and go back to sleep. If you don't wake up, then just put it in the fridge for another time.

I you are going to use flax oil in your shake I personally would drink it immediately rather than let it sit out. Flax oil is very sensitive to heat and light, and I know this probably will not make that much of a difference in this case, but the variation in temperature, etc. could damage the oil.

papaoso2k1
07-07-2003, 11:48 AM
heres wha i have before bed:

4 cooked egg whites, and a shake (1 cup milk, 1 cup yogurt 1 scoop whey protein).....how does it sound??

bradley
07-07-2003, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by papaoso2k1
heres wha i have before bed:

4 cooked egg whites, and a shake (1 cup milk, 1 cup yogurt 1 scoop whey protein).....how does it sound??

That sounds fine, although IMO I would just find a slow digesting protein like cottage cheese and combine it with some fat to further slow digestion. I am not saying that it is going to make a large difference or any difference at all, and the most important thing is that you are taking in a meal before bed.

Maybe 2 whole eggs along with some cottage cheese or whey in milk.

papaoso2k1
07-08-2003, 11:10 AM
thx bradley......about cottage cheese...the thing is here in venezuela we dont have it.... and the cheese they sell here has lots of fat so i try not to eat cheese... I need to know what other foods are good sources of slow digesting protein....(we dont have Peanut Butter here either....just so you know). I drink milk and yogurt because ive read they have casein wich is very slow digesting... i eat the eggs because i HAVE to eat something....if i just drink a shake I feel hungry and i get cravings for cereal..or something like that. What about whey?? is it ok?? or is it too fast?? thx for your help

bradley
07-08-2003, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by papaoso2k1
I need to know what other foods are good sources of slow digesting protein....(we dont have Peanut Butter here either....just so you know). I drink milk and yogurt because ive read they have casein wich is very slow digesting...

You are correct in that casein is a slow digesting protein, and also any dairy product will have some casein in it. It is not really essential that you take in casein protein before bed, since any whole food protein will take a while to digest and if you add a little fat it will take even longer. The addition of fiber will also slow digestion as well.

The milk and yogurt would be fine, but I would go with the plain nonfat yogurt and skim milk. Then you could throw in a whole egg or two to add in some fat.



i eat the eggs because i HAVE to eat something....if i just drink a shake I feel hungry and i get cravings for cereal..or something like that. What about whey?? is it ok?? or is it too fast?? thx for your help

You could try what I mentioned above or maybe just have a cup of milk with whey and then some type of fat. Whether it be nuts of some sort, eggs, etc.

It probably will not make that big of a difference and the main thing is that you are taking in meal before bed.

papaoso2k1
07-08-2003, 08:55 PM
ok ....tonight im getting some flax with eggs yogur and milk.....

dirty-c
07-10-2003, 02:28 PM
Whether or not you should eat before going to bed depends on what your goals are. If you're really trying to put on mass, then yeah, go ahead and do it. Be wary about eating too many carbs though. Any more than it takes to fill glycogen stores (how much this would be - I have no idea), will probably be stored as fat while you sleep.

I used to believe that the slower digesting proteins found in dairy were the best choice before bed, but now I'm not sure. I've seen multiple threads in this forum that suggest maybe keeping a steady amino stream in your body ISNT the best course of action for muscle building. I'm all turned around now. I thought that frequent meals and a steady source of protein was one of the few things that ALL bodybuilders agreed on.......

bradley
07-10-2003, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by dirty-c
Whether or not you should eat before going to bed depends on what your goals are. If you're really trying to put on mass, then yeah, go ahead and do it. Be wary about eating too many carbs though. Any more than it takes to fill glycogen stores (how much this would be - I have no idea), will probably be stored as fat while you sleep.

Eating before bed is a good idea regardless of what your goals are, and the whole "carbs before bed will turn into fat" is not accurate. Calorie balance at the end of the day will be the determining factor as to whether or not you lose weight.



I used to believe that the slower digesting proteins found in dairy were the best choice before bed, but now I'm not sure. I've seen multiple threads in this forum that suggest maybe keeping a steady amino stream in your body ISNT the best course of action for muscle building. I'm all turned around now. I thought that frequent meals and a steady source of protein was one of the few things that ALL bodybuilders agreed on.......

A slow digesting protein source is ideal before bed to supply a steady stream of AA, although frequent meals are not necessary to accomplish the steady stream of AA.

jcny19x
07-13-2003, 10:28 AM
what about a huge turkey sandwich? =P

fitness queen
07-13-2003, 11:19 AM
IF i am soo much little then you, should I still eat before bed, what is good, doesnt dairy products make your skin go a little harder. And am I really aloud pb, or is that just for the boys

ace dogg
07-13-2003, 11:36 AM
you sleep for a reason. just eat before bed, and when you wake up. if you happen to wake up in the middle of the night, then eat some food...other than that, just sleep.

bradley
07-13-2003, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by jcny19x
what about a huge turkey sandwich? =P

The content of the meal is not as important as making sure you are taking in some sort of meal before bed. I usually recommend cottage cheese because of the slow digesting protein that it contains, but as long as you are taking in some protein and a little fat (and fiber if you want), I really do not think it is going to make a substantial difference.

To answer your question, yes the sandwich would be fine.:)

bradley
07-13-2003, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by fitness queen
IF i am soo much little then you, should I still eat before bed, what is good, doesnt dairy products make your skin go a little harder. And am I really aloud pb, or is that just for the boys

You would still want to take in a small meal before bed, regardless of your size.

Once you get closer to your competition you might want to drop dairy products due to the sodium content.

Peanut butter is fine IMO, and is a decent source of fat. You just have to watch the amount as it is a calorie dense food.