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Big_Gun
07-15-2003, 08:49 AM
Ok, here goes. Try not to have a heart attack reading it.

For 8 months i've been taking 25mg of D-bol. For the last 4 months I've been hammering 400 mg of Deca along with this. I've been taking arimidex every 6 weeks for water retention, and have made great gains. I'm now worried that i've overdone my cycle and should rest before my body stops. What does everyone else think?

rujulus
07-15-2003, 09:58 AM
25mg's of d-bol a day for 8 months???.....your rich/nuts right? I personally think you kind of over done your cycle when do plan on stopping? Can you say new liver

zwarrior99
07-15-2003, 11:11 AM
Man I suggest you stop! Before your looking for sources for livers! And they aint as cheap as dbol. You would of gotten better gains, if you would of gotten on and off. As dbol anabolic effects start wearing off after the 8 or 10 week mark. BTW I hope this is a joke! IF NOT GET OFF!!! And dont touch another steroid in the rest of your life. Same for alcohol.

Big_Gun
07-15-2003, 12:21 PM
I'm not rich, so I must be nuts. I had one break in between of 6 weeks but then started on them again. I haven't found that the gains have worn off though, am just worried now that even though I have little or no water retention, I'm gonna lose so much strength considering i've gone tonnes. Have milk thistle for my liver, so that should help it regenerate over the next 6 months or so.

zwarrior99
07-15-2003, 01:38 PM
Dude take nolva and clomid to get off! And stay off! Get on r-ALA for more liver support also. Try Tylers liver support.

tony touch
07-15-2003, 07:01 PM
dude your problem wasnt the long cycle it was that you didnt cycle your oral use. you should have been going 8 weeks on 8 weeks off or 4on\4off. you should have cycled different compounds and kept dosages mild.

b smart. get off now and let your body recuperate. take a good 6-8 months off now (a good year away from orals.)

Severed Ties
07-15-2003, 11:04 PM
Hit some HCG and then get on nolvadex/clomid for 6 weeks.

THEN GET SOME FRIGGEN BLOOD WORK DONE!

You have no idea how bad your hepatic functions and lipid profiles look like which is something you need to find out.

If you have any family genes for heart disease you could be a walking heart attack waiting to happen.

Do not touch anything else until you get a normal CBC.


ST

Big_Gun
07-16-2003, 02:01 AM
Message understood guys. Will be taking til next English summer off before i think about cycling again, and one thing is for sure, orals are out of the question.
Thanks for your help guys, will go see a doc asap.

Belial
07-16-2003, 01:20 PM
And let us know the results. Never seen orals done for 2/3 of a year, I'd be curious.

tony touch
07-16-2003, 06:17 PM
ive seen orals done at high dosages for long periods of time, pretty high dosages though, without complications but ive also seen this done with many complications. its a highly personal issue. better safe than sorry though.

Severed Ties
07-16-2003, 10:30 PM
I've seen guys who can run orals year round without a problem mind you they are on the competitive level and get blood work 4 weeks so they are not flying blind.


ST

Big_Gun
07-17-2003, 01:55 AM
Yeah, will keep everyone informed on how good/bad my liver actually is, and everything else, like heart etc...

BUFF STUFF
07-17-2003, 04:43 PM
Woah cant belive this is real

Newbies this is what happens when you dont researchhttp://www.intense-training.com/forums/images/smilies/dienewbie.gif

good luck for the future

tony touch
07-17-2003, 05:13 PM
o by the way, now that you are off doesnt mean you should stop liver detox supplements. pounds heavy dosages of r-ala and milk thistle

Big_Gun
07-21-2003, 03:02 AM
BUFF STUFF - I aint a beginner. I've done many cycles before, but the results i got off d-bol for so impressive, i got hooked. That simple.

I have started my liver detox products already, plus clomid and nolvadex to try and get my body back in sync.

Big_Gun
07-21-2003, 08:40 AM
Ok, here goes. I had numerous blood tests at the end of last week to determine any possible problems with abusing the old d's. Anyhooo, have been for my test results. there is very little damage to any of my organs. It looks like i've been very lucky. I have been advised to do a lot more cardio exercise due to the strain on my heart...but i've also been told to start very lightly and work up. I have definitely learnt my lesson though. Injectables only!!!!

tony touch
07-21-2003, 06:25 PM
prob a good idea to run HCG too, 6 month cycles should ahve ur balls looking like raisins.