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Vvitto
08-24-2001, 09:35 PM
I read and heard some good thing about honey..Just wanna kniow how beneficial can be to use honey as part of diet!

Any opinion?

Thnaks

Cackerot69
08-24-2001, 09:39 PM
Not very.

Maki Riddington
08-24-2001, 09:53 PM
Take it pre workout for energy.
It's fine.

the doc
08-24-2001, 09:57 PM
it contains about a 1:1 ratio of glucose/fructose. It also contains other less common sugars

Wizard
08-25-2001, 03:30 AM
Depending on your goals..
When you're cutting you should avoid it.
When you're bulking it's ok.(not in big quantities though)

The_Chicken_Daddy
08-25-2001, 03:34 AM
it would be good for a 'slin spike after training.

kAto
08-25-2001, 06:04 AM
Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
it would be good for a 'slin spike after training.

its supposed to be the best carb, for POST-training, because of its structure, it is released slowly, but at the same time, creates and incredible amount of insulin spike....approx. 2hrs is the "window of recovery" you get from just 2 tbsp of honey after training; i use dex, just cause its easier though.

Cackerot69
08-25-2001, 08:09 AM
Honey is ok, but I wouldn't say it's the best. It's half glucose/half fructose like doc said (note - "lucozade" is just a fancy word for fructose), and it's not as high GI as something such as maltodextrin or dextrose. BTW, those studies showing honey to be superior to all other carb sources was funded by the National Honey Board...hmmm.

Wizard
08-25-2001, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by Cackerot69
"lucozade" is just a fancy word for fructose
Because of the sucrose contained?

Vvitto
08-25-2001, 02:24 PM
There are some mixed messages..Some would say that honey should be used as pre workout ,others as a post workout.

I intend to make honey part of my diet and I would like to know when to use it,how much and how often!

Thanks

Cackerot69
08-25-2001, 03:48 PM
I dunno if that's why, Blacky....I just remember that.

RippedUp
08-25-2001, 10:45 PM
I always use honey post-WO. I drink a Gatorade on my way home, then blend 40g of whey with 2 tbspns of honey. I drink and grow!!

Here's a piece of research from the AST website:

Research Shows Honey Increases Recuperation After Workouts.





Research study recently presented at the annual National Strength and Conditioning Association meeting strongly suggests that combining honey with a protein supplement after training may boost post-workout recuperation and favor better blood sugar maintenance after exercise.

Protein supplements are widely used to increase one's intake of dietary protein. Protein need increases among individuals engaged in intense activities such as weight training, running, step aerobics and many competitive sports. Previous studies have shown that a combination of carbohydrates and protein supplement has been shown in to boost muscle energy recuperation and may favor better response to training. "We were pleased to find that powdered honey promoted favorable changes in post-exercise markers of metabolism equal to that of the current standard, maltodextrin," says Dr. Richard Kreider, lead investigator of the study and Director of the Exercise and Sport Nutrition Laboratory at the University of Memphis. "We also found that the group receiving honey as the carbohydrate source did not display the typical drop in blood sugar 60 minutes after taking the other forms of carbohydrates. These findings support our previous study on honey."

The current study involved a group of 39 weight-trained athletes both male and female. Subjects underwent an intensive weight-lifting workout and then immediately consumed a protein supplement blended with sugar, maltodextrin, or honey as the carbohydrate source. Only the honey group maintained optimal blood sugar levels throughout the two hours following the workout. Additionally, subjects taking honey showed favorable changes in a hormone ratio that indicates a positive muscle recuperative state. "Our data suggest that honey functions well in all of the aspects associated with post-workout recuperation and energy repletion. In addition, honey appears to stand out as perhaps even a better source of carbohydrate to ingest with post-workout protein supplements," added Dr. Kreider. "In addition to promoting muscle recuperation and glycogen (carbohydrates stored in muscle) restoration, honey-protein combinations also seem well suited to sustain favorable blood sugar concentrations after training."

What's in honey that imparts these important effects? How would honey work as a transporter for creatine? These are some questions that could further the research into this area of increasing the results you get with weight training.

I would say this research is quite compelling and would certainly suggest adding and ounce of honey to your post workout protein supplement.