Sexual Morals

[Reinier]

Centaurion and I came to the conclusion (like we all didn`t know) Holland is very liberal in sexual morals.

It seems that here more than in other places there is this feeling of "well if you like to dress up as a girl, choke yourself half to death and then masturbate while looking at pictures of your father, well thats just good for you"

cent seemed to think this is a harmful degeneration of morals.

I however think psychology suggests waryness of perversion is far more damaging to people and society than perversion itself.

Also it should be noted that perversion is a qualitative trait, as it can only defined as conflicting with sexual morals.

Sexual morals are based on, pretty much, scripture... I find them quite irrelevant.

[Brawl]

Not so sure if they are irrelevant but I agree with a lot of your post . Scripture does seem to be the basis for most .

[Praetorian]

heres the whole convo for those who cares to read



Reinier sier:
my mother was a KLM attendant for years
Cent sier:
is she hot?
Reinier sier:
well shes like 53
Reinier sier:
and shes a bit overweight. so no
Cent sier:
lol
Reinier sier:
but before she was pretty cool
Reinier sier:
only she has a very big nose
Cent sier:
aaah geez man
Reinier sier:
but in some pictures she gets away with it
Cent sier:
you are rating your own mother
Reinier sier:
well yeah
Cent sier:
wnkaer
Reinier sier:
lol.
Reinier sier:
you are so silly with your **** about this is gay and this is weird
Cent sier:
lol
Reinier sier:
whats so strange about thinking about whether my mom is beautiful or not
Cent sier:
lmao
Cent sier:
now reinier, tell me..
Cent sier:
is she boinkable?
Reinier sier:
lets say she was
Reinier sier:
and prolly is for a man her age
Cent sier:
bwhahahaha
Cent sier:
dont you see how sick that is?
Reinier sier:
i think your being childish man
Centsier:
no
Cent sier:
its typicla odipus complex
Reinier sier:
LOL
Cent sier:
hehe
Reinier sier:
that is such bs
What I've felt, what I've known, never shined through what I've shown sier:
why
Reinier sier:
i mean I have a cousin who is beautiful now am i incestual
Reinier sier:
i never sayd id like to **** her
Reinier sier:
just that she looks good
Cent sier:
and that she was boinkable
Reinier sier:
well yeah, in general, not to me
Cent sier:
you are having sexual thoughts about your own mother
Cent sier:
rating her and determening if she is desired by other males
Cent sier:
odipus
Reinier sier:
kapfff
Cent sier:
heheeh
Reinier sier:
as if you even ****ing know what oedipus complex really is or comes from
Cent sier:
i know what it is and wher eit comes from
Cent sier:
im not as stupid as rock
Reinier sier:
you probably tell yourself your parents only had sex once to produce you
Cent sier:
yes, i choose to believe that
Reinier sier:
LMAO
Reinier sier:
your prude and scared of not being "normal"
Cent sier:
prude?
Cent sier:
in what way?
Reinier sier:
easily judging as perverted
Reinier sier:
i think your probably a closet homo or bi because you seem so complexed about sexuality
Cent sier:
brb
Cent sier:
hey now reinier
Cent sier:
i aint the one walking out of a room when a girl starts taking her clothes of
Cent sier:
dutch people have generally a more looser morales when it comes to sexuality
Reinier sier:
thats a pretty long time ago and it was stupid rather than gay
Reinier sier:
yes. because we are more advanced organisms than other people
Cent sier:
no
Centsier:
its because your society has degenrated that far
Reinier sier:
explain
Cent sier:
lol
Cent sier:
holland is one of the more liberal countries in the world
What I've felt, what I've known, never shined through what I've shown sier:
this is due to massive immigration which results in new impulses entering hte society
Cent sier:
especially when it comes to sexuality
Reinier sier:
i dont think it is linked to the immigration....
Reinier sier:
the immigration thing really only started some time after the war when we welcomed turks to fill our factories. holland was then already one of the more liberal countries
Reinier sier:
I think it is linked to wisdom, as people come to the realisation that there are more important things in life than what others think of you, they will speak their mind and let their mind be free instead of being a frust psycho
Reinier sier:
of course Holland isn`t THAT different from other places.
Reinier sier:
sex is probably the first place where youll notice a small difference in social pressure.
Reinier sier:
on the whole its pretty much still the same ****
Cent sier:
you can hardly say that it is connected to wisdom..
Cent sier:
the dutch say that it is 'wisdom' while the rest of the world say that its just degenaration of morals
Cent sier:
depends on which camp you belong to
Reinier sier:
Morals...
Reinier sier:
whats the moral in sexual repression
Cent sier:
are you christian?
Reinier sier:
no
Reinier sier:
thank god i aint
Cent sier:
lol
Cent sier:
in most religions homosexuality is looked upon as something sinful
Reinier sier:
whoever mentioned homosexuality
Cent sier:
even though that isnt the main outlook today, it still forms the foundation of our morals when it comes to sexuality
Cent sier:
i thoiught this whole **** started caused you started whining about me calling you gay
Reinier sier:
Organised religion should not be a source for our morals
Reinier sier:
our morals should be based on the things we universally feel, just like language
Cent sier:
you're a dreamer renier
Cent sier:
thats a one utopia that wont be fullfilled
Cent sier:
even though religion shouldnt be the source, it still is
Reinier sier:
perhaps utopia is in chasing utopia
Cent sier:
you just can wipe out 2000+ years of history
Reinier sier:
yes i can
Reinier sier:
you see
Reinier sier:
there have been humans for like 3 million years
Reinier sier:
and you think this stupid 2000 year religion even matters
Reinier sier:
and only like 1/5 of the world is christian
Reinier sier:
so i should accept christian values as universal
Reinier sier:
thats silly
Cent sier:
its not christian valies
Cent sier:
muslim
Cent sier:
judaism
Cent sier:
i dont know about buddism and hinduism though
Reinier sier:
i think those are horny
Reinier sier:
with all their tantra ****
Reinier sier:
they prolly think is holy and more sex is better
Cent sier:
its not only christian values
Cent sier:
the annoying girl just gave me her phone no
Reinier sier:
psychology sees more harm in sexual frustration than in perversion itself
Cent sier:
are u a follower of freud?
Reinier sier:
not in particular
Reinier sier:
he was more of a pioneer than an expert
Cent sier:
and wtf are we discussing?
Centsier:
yes i agree on that
Reinier sier:
discussing the good or bad of the accepted sexual morals
Cent sier:
aah that was it
Cent sier:
i think holland is ahead of its time
Cent sier:
uin turns of sexuality
Reinier sier:
and you find this a moral degeneration
Reinier sier:
I find it a positive breakdown of harmful frustration and a long awaited peace with the human mind
Cent :
its just a vent for all the frustration that has been built up
Cent sier:
it cant last forever
Reinier sier:
Do you think frustration is heredital then
Reinier sier:
cuz the current generation never knew it that much
Cent sier:
heredital?
Reinier sier:
passed on over a generation
Cent sier:
frustration is a form of mass hysteria
Cent sier:
i dont think its heredital...
Centsier:
i was frustrated all trough HS
Cent sier:
on second thought, yes
Cent sier:
i think its heredital
Cent sier:
since all of us goes trough a period where we are frustrated
Cent sier:
its a part of the growing up process
Reinier sier:
thats not what i meant by heredital
Reinier sier:
spoof
Cent sier:
what did you mean?
Cent sier:
clearify
Reinier sier:
its just a vent for all the frustration that has been built up
Reinier sier:
you sayd that
Reinier sier:
how do you mean
Reinier sier:
the current generation never knew society moral induced frust
Reinier sier:
it would have to be society being frustrated in general
Cent sier:
frustrated over what?
Reinier sier:
your the one bringing it up
Reinier sier:
not me
Reinier sier:
you answer that
Cent sier:
i dont think its society being frustrated in general
Cent sier:
its more like the individual being frustrated when they dont have anything to be frustrated over
Reinier sier:
then how come holland vents this through being sexually inhibited and other places dont
Cent sier:
therefore they are 'frustrated' over not being able to be 'frustrated' over something particular, which in turns leads to a higher degree of frustratuin
Cent sier:
just as every class needs a clown, every society (the world) needs an outlet (holland) for their frustration. and the reason for that it is holland, is due to, as i mentioned, the immigration which goes back a lot
Reinier sier:
this makes no sense
Cent sier:
it does
Reinier sier:
how does a person from another country vent by holland being wilder
Reinier sier:
and how does immigration lead to sexual uninhibitance
Cent sier:
holland attracts the sexual frustrated freaks of persons
Reinier sier:
your saying there is sexual freak immigration here
Cent sier:
hold on
Reinier sier:
BS> total bs. if not, its minimal
Reinier sier:
the place for that is bangkok
Reinier sier:
and you know it
Cent sier:
i stated erlier that with immigration comes inpulses
Reinier sier:
but you never explained ti
Cent sier:
what is to expalin?
Cent sier:
im too tired of this mental mastrubation
Cent sier:
ive worked since 7am this mornig
Reinier sier:
what the hell immigration has to do with ANYTHING

[Praetorian]

Originally posted by Brawl
Not so sure if they are irrelevant but I agree with a lot of your post . Scripture does seem to be the basis for most .

i believe that you cant just wipe out 2000+ years of history.

[Reinier]

I believe you can. 2000 years is nothing whatsoever on the timeline of the existance of the human race

[Praetorian]

yes and a greater majority of that time, we where uga-buga people living in caves. Its only for hte last 4000+ years that we have been able to set us apart basic drifts and start acting smart.

[Tryska]

Originally posted by Reinier
It seems that here more than in other places there is this feeling of "well if you like to dress up as a girl, choke yourself half to death and then masturbate while looking at pictures of your father, well thats just good for you"



sound slieks oem of the places i hang out.

[APE.]

Originally posted by Tryska


sound slieks oem of the places i hang out.


Where the hell you hang out @?

As for Sexual Morals" I say to each their own".None of my buisness.

[Tryska]

atlanta.

[APE.]

Oh a southern belle. At first I would say it's not like that in the south.Then I remembered all my weekends In New Orleans.


Never Mind.:alcoholic :hump:

[Shane]

Originally posted by APE.
As for Sexual Morals" I say to each their own".None of my buisness.

Yup. Just don't force anyone to do anything against their will or mess with a child.

Reinier and Cent, when you guys talk about religion and sexual morality you should maybe look at other religions of the world that aren't major now but were at one point. Some of them had influences on major religions of today (ie, zoroastrianism on Christianity). So remember to consider the Greeks, Egyptians, Romans, blah blah blah blah blah. You know what I mean. I'm sure Tryska can tell you something about that.

[McBain]

hey im going to bangkok in 3 weeks~!

[Gyno Rhino]

Originally posted by Reinier
"well if you like to dress up as a girl, choke yourself half to death and then masturbate while looking at pictures of your father, well thats just good for you"

I knew someplace on Earth would accept me for who I am.

[Budiak]

Reinier, myself and a lot of other people would like to argue that your glorification of perversion is the result of your being a highly deranged individual.

Thats all I'm going to say about that.



*leave thread, locks it from the outside

[EdgeCrusher]

It's my hypothesis that society had put restrictions on man that any primal urges are masked and come out in odd ways. Examples being fetishes (as a result of sexuality being suppressed), binge eating (as eating was less often when food was less available, man had to eat excessive amounts of food and let the fat maintain them - food is plentiful now and yet people still binge on food), and many other outburts or oddities one can think of.

[RG570]

I beleive reiner is correct.

Budiak.. need i mention that you are a sodomite?

[Y2A]

Sexual freedom good. Holland good. Girls with high sexual morals bad. Unless its your wife.

[Sinep]

Here come multiload

[Y2A]

Originally posted by Sinep
Here come multiload

:D Whats up singleton?

[Reinier]

Originally posted by Centaurion
yes and a greater majority of that time, we where uga-buga people living in caves. Its only for hte last 4000+ years that we have been able to set us apart basic drifts and start acting smart.

Thats what we like to tell ourselves yes. But i dont buy it. I think there were great civilisations before the egyptians. look at how worn the few remains of egyptian civilisation are now after the relatively short time they have existed, while they are so colossal. seeing as the human race is so old, there is no reason why there are no forgotten great empires

[Sinep]

Originally posted by Y2A


:D Whats up singleton?
It is SingletRon !! TRON TRON TRON! you f*ckin half

[Y2A]

Originally posted by Sinep

It is SingletRon !! TRON TRON TRON! you f*ckin half

How about "one-and-done"? Dont get mad at me just cause you have a low libido ;)

[Rock]

sexual perversion is a consueqence of the natural fact that the strongest male mated first and foremost, in the early stages of mankind, the weaker males developed perversion as a way out of their sexual jail.

end of story

Rock

[Sinep]

For the record, I've done more than one.
Everyone is multiload on the internet.

[ace dogg]

its not wrong if your partner is willing to participate.

thinking about your mom sexually is pretty nasty tho.

[Y2A]

Originally posted by ace dogg
thinking about your mom sexually is pretty nasty tho.

:withstupi

[Sinep]

Yeah, what is up with that Reiner. I'd never copy & paste something like that if I ever said it (though I wouldn't) *gag*

[Reinier]

actually he started that, asking me about it. also he copied it, not me

[twisteddendrite]

Holland also is also in favor of assisted suicide, so after you dress up like a girl, choke yourself and masterbate to your fathers pictures it would be fashionable to off yourself. LOL

[Reinier]

I entirely support a right to euthanasia. but thats a different debate

[Bam Bam]

im a conservative democrate

[Rock]

I have already answered this thread.

[Praetorian]

i said that KLM attendants were very nice, he said that his mother was a KLM attendant for years, i jokingly asked if she is hot, he took it serious and started rating her.

sick dutch bastard

[Ti1301]

sex and morals don't mix.
Just hit it.
LOL