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benchmonster
07-29-2003, 07:59 AM
Was wondering when everyone is next competing and what sort of numbers they are after, including bodyweight, and attempts.

For myself, my next competition is going to be in October, I will weigh in at 242 lbs, and if my hips and low back are healthy, I plan on doing a 3 lift meet. If they are not healthy, I will just bench.

If I do the 3 lift meet my attempts will be as follows:

Squat - 700, 750, 800

Bench - 525, 575, 600

Deadlift - 525, 575, 600

If I go 9 for 9, will be a 2000 lb total in my first ever full powerlifting meet. Up to now has been just bench only. Was very confident of all these numbers till just here recently, when i developed some problems with my hips, and was on the shelf for a bit with a low back problem.

I have box squatted, with chains, bands and bar weight, in excess of 800 lbs before, wearing just breifs and belt, so on a good day, 800 should go.

I have benched 585 off a 3 board before, and after not doing rack lockouts in forever, recently hit 605 for 3, and have not really gotten geared up for the meet training yet.

Have deadlifted 545 in the gym about a week after my last meet, and am much stronger now, tho I have not tested my max since that time.

Plan on doing a very ecclectic training cycle going into this meet. I have been working very hard to raise my cardiovascular capacity, and have vastly increased my total work capacity since my last meet. It is now time to really buckle down, and add in some max effort work on top of my muscular endurance training I have been doing for the past 8 weeks or so.

Best of luck to all competitors, and post up what you are planning on doing, and how you plan to get there.

B.

Goin_Big
07-29-2003, 08:02 AM
I dunno what's up with your deadlift, but with a squat of 800 you should be able to deadlift more than that. Maybe your form is off, or do your hips and lower back affect it quite a bit?

Those lifts are quite impressive, just seems your dead should be higher.

Paul Stagg
07-29-2003, 08:22 AM
Tentative meet on September 27 -an AAU meet (although their website only indicates it is in Maryland, not WHERE in Maryland)

220 pound class, raw.

Here is what I think my attempts will look like

Squat: 365/405/430
Bench: 275/295/305
Dead: 365/405/430

If that meet is a bust (too far), I'll hope for a USAPL meet in December (there was one last year), or wait until next year, and plan for a meet in PA or VA where I might have to travel a bit.

I want to do one more meet raw before investing in gear. I'm a USAPL kind of guy, so I'd like to stick with USAPL meets, but if an APA or APF meet comes up nearby, I'll do it to get the experience.

Maryland (Baltimore) isn't really a hotbed of powerlifting, and because of my wife's unpredictable schedule, weekend jaunts to meets are tough - but if I go a year without a meet within 2 hours drive, I think that's going to have to be what I do.

Training continues WSB, but I might change it if I can't get my numbers up.

Saturday Fever
07-29-2003, 09:59 AM
November 9 USAPL Southern California Push/Pull and Fall Qualifier- CSUN, Northridge

I plan to be clean for this one and am shooting for a 1500 total. If my weight sticks with its current trend I'll be weighing about 235. I'd like to hit a 600lb dead and squat. It'll take a LOT of work, though.

noraa
07-29-2003, 06:53 PM
I dunno what's up with your deadlift, but with a squat of 800 you should be able to deadlift more than that. Maybe your form is off, or do your hips and lower back affect it quite a bit?
Suit will help squat a lot more than deadlift. And that being a good bencher, he probably has shorter arms for his frame, which works against deadlift a LOT

noraa
07-29-2003, 07:01 PM
I have my National Bench Champs on October 11th.
Should hopefully go over 190kg (single ply blast) or so, depends if my injury goes away as it should.

Training is sorta wierd combo of things
lift heavy twice weekly wave loaded, with heavy tricep work following, and also do a once weekly speed session.
I also do a few days worth of band presses to aid in recovery.

Chris Rodgers
07-29-2003, 07:48 PM
8/30
APF No Limits Push/Pull

I know the meet director and he may allow me to squat before the meet with judges to get a total.

Class- 148
My main goal: 1250 total.

If everything goes perfect I will get my first:

500 squat
300 bench
500 dead


I hope to at least get my 1250 and 1-2 of those other milestones.

ElPietro
07-29-2003, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by Saturday Fever


I plan to be clean for this one and am shooting for a 1500 total. If my weight sticks with its current trend I'll be weighing about 235. I'd like to hit a 600lb dead and squat. It'll take a LOT of work, though.

Just out of curiosity, what were you, or are you on, that caused your previously lifts to be disqualified for failing your drug test?

Not knocking you, just curious if you were surprised at failing, or if you just were trying to get away with it and got booked.

I don't know all the 1,001 different federations in the US, and which have what standards. From what I've been told there is a great variation from place to place, and some equipment that is banned in many feds are legal in others, and loose form is allowed in quite a few feds versus others. Although, I guess the term loose would be relative to what federations standards you adhere to so maybe that's not so appropriate. Err, I went off on a tangent with the equipment, was more meant to be related to what substances are banned in which feds, etc.

I can only go by what I've seen and am slowly learning, and that is IPF.

benchmonster
07-30-2003, 02:38 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Goin_Big
[B]I dunno what's up with your deadlift, but with a squat of 800 you should be able to deadlift more than that.

Well, couple of things there. I am not a full meet lifter. I am a bench specialist. Both by body type and mentality. I have a large, long torso, and relatively short arms and legs. I am built very well to bench, cause I have a relatively short stroke.

I could not be built worse to deadlift tho. Big upper body and short arms is a recipe for disaster in the deadlift. When I finish the deadlift the bar is resting against my scrotum. When a good deadlifter finishes the deadlift the bar is just barely above his knees to maybe halfway between his knees and giggleberries.

Also, I don't have the best low back in the world, and have stocky hands. Which also does not really contribute to a good deadlift.

Basically people are either built to bench (me) or built to deadlift (Ed Coan, Lamar Gant) but you will find that amongst the big time lifters, it is rare indeed to find someone who is good at both benching and deadlifting. And a real 3 lift powerlifter is someone who has a great squat and deadlift and an adequate bench. Powerlifting meets are not won and lost in the bench press.

As the 3 lift guys say. . . the meet don't start till the bar hits the floor.

B.

Hercule
07-30-2003, 02:46 PM
I'm built just like you, Benchmonster. My DL lockout is right at the nutsack. It suck really bad. If I could, I would trade my RAW 300 bench for a much bigger DL.

noraa
07-30-2003, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by benchmonster

Well, couple of things there. I am not a full meet lifter. I am a bench specialist. Both by body type and mentality. I have a large, long torso, and relatively short arms and legs. I am built very well to bench, cause I have a relatively short stroke.

I could not be built worse to deadlift tho. Big upper body and short arms is a recipe for disaster in the deadlift. When I finish the deadlift the bar is resting against my scrotum. When a good deadlifter finishes the deadlift the bar is just barely above his knees to maybe halfway between his knees and giggleberries.

Also, I don't have the best low back in the world, and have stocky hands. Which also does not really contribute to a good deadlift.
B.

Its the body type that ruins hte back, especially during squats as the loading ends up primarily on the lowback. Brachiomorphic is the term they use for it, and most benchers seem to be that way. I am 2" taller than my brother but have a shorter inseam.

benchmonster
07-31-2003, 11:59 AM
wow, noraa, brachiomorphic is an awful big word for a powerlifting crowd. tee hee. thanks. I had never heard that term. I guess I am a brachiomorph/mesomorph/endomorph, combo.

B.

noraa
07-31-2003, 04:51 PM
Im just a fat brachiomorph

Hercule
07-31-2003, 06:51 PM
My next PL meet isn't until early next year. I can't really set any goals, but the minimum will be-

SQ- 440
BP- 340
DL- 520

That would be a 220lbs increase in my total from now. I don't know if that is a reasonable goal now, but it sure was two months ago, before I hurt my back.

Right now, I am looking for a Strongman contest to compete in. I havn't found one, however, but I am still looking.

Hercule
07-31-2003, 07:24 PM
BTW, the above numbers mentioned are RAW. I would like my equipped maxes to be-

SQ-450
BP- 360-380
DL-525

unshift
07-31-2003, 09:00 PM
i think now i would consider competing if my totals were good enough...

250+ bench
400+ squat
400+ DL

unfortunately, i'm a fat mess, so i'm trying to lose roughly 50lbs or more of fat... so basically that means i can't and don't eat the way i need to so that i can increase my lifts... and i definitely expect to plateau soon (and for a while)

maybe next year or something... is it likely to have some sort of intramural PL competition at a big university?

DK
08-03-2003, 11:17 AM
My next meet will be sometime in February. I can't put down any numbers right now. The only goal I have right now is to recover from my back injury, and this is seeming to be harder than reaching any weight training goal.

Saturday Fever
08-05-2003, 05:02 PM
ElP,

Test and EQ. I had no idea the meet would be tested. I knew upon arriving I was going to fail, and I did.I've been removed from said substances for close to 2 months now.

On a sidenote, as a result I've dropped 11 pounds and it's impossible to consume the type of calories I was consuming during my serious training.