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Sootah
08-09-2003, 04:32 AM
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Also, would you say 500mg/wk for 8 weeks, or perhaps 250 since it'd be me 1st?

How much Nolva should be on hand for afterwards?

Life4ever
08-09-2003, 07:36 AM
500 mg of test for 8 weeks. I would also throw some dbol at 30 mg for the first 4 weeks as a jumpstart. I would also use arimidex .5 mg ED during the cycle. For post cycle, 2 weeks after your last injections, use .5 mg armidex ED, clomid 100 mg ED, and if you want , 10 mg nolva for 2 weeks.

tony touch
08-09-2003, 11:34 AM
use a long acting ester so u dont have to injcet as much.

enanthate or cyp

Power-BB
08-09-2003, 12:11 PM
enath or cypi. I would do one of those by itself for 10 weeks at 500 mg. You could also frontload a gram for weeks 1 or 2. JMO

Power

smalls
08-09-2003, 03:44 PM
I would say enanthate cuz its cheap and you dont have to inject as much. But now that I am acutally in my first cycle I would rather be using prop for the very reason that I could inject much more often. I love it.

BostonBull
08-10-2003, 02:12 PM
I would recommend Enanthate or Cypionate but for at least 10 weeks and more like 12 weeks!!! 8 weeks is just too short!! You coul throw in some D-bol at 30mg/ed for first four weeks but I would also throw in some Equipoise or some Deca too.

Use clomid two weeks after lkast shot and have nolvadex on hand. Dont forget you first cycle will always be your best one so if you have to save a little while longer so be it DONT rush into it!!

handler
08-10-2003, 11:28 PM
Id skip the dbol,completely unecessary for a first cycle.Unless you are really ,really skinny and genetically challenged.You will get great results from a test eth,or cyp with either deca or eq.It always amazes me how people on these boards feel the need to stack 3 -4 different types of gear in a first cycle?Most who post these type of cycles probably dont know any better because they started that way too.
In all reality you will make some amazing gains by going with deca itself!!!!!!again everyone thinks youll get deca dick with no test,wrong ,deca dick is a myth.
yes it always good to end with clomid and have nolva on hand that advice at least is accurate.

BostonBull
08-11-2003, 02:21 PM
Deca Dick is a myth??? MAybe your just special but I know everyoe of my Brosdoing the sauce has gotten it!!!

Yes D-bol might be a little much for a first time BUT theres no cycle like your first cycle!!!!

handler
08-11-2003, 03:24 PM
many of your bros doing sause?Oh the many you met online on the boards? there is so much bull**** on the net boards.deca dick is a myth!!!!!There are also some folks on the boards that make them worth reading,and then there are those on the boards that just post info that they read on other boards and dont even use gear or in some cases dont even workout.

Ok there is no cycle like your first or your second or your third or your fourth and son on.save d bol for way down the road.more isnt always better.use d bol later when it becomes a necessity ,not in your first cycle just because you have acess to it.Boston Bull the outlook you portray on gear is the type of reason the stuff gets such a bad rap to begin with.

Belial
08-11-2003, 04:07 PM
Deca dick isn't a myth... it's relatively uncommon, true, and a lot depends on dosing protocol, duration of cycle, and enogenous hormone levels, but to say flat out that it's a myth just isn't true. When you take large amounts of deca, the amount of AR activation in sex-related tissue is negligible. That's part of its appeal for those prone to balding, prostate enlargement, etc, but that's also why some people have difficulty getting or maintaining an erection while on it.

handler
08-11-2003, 04:45 PM
ok myth was an overstatement >my apologies.It is definitely overplayed though,uncommon is the most suitable description.thanks for the post Belial,you seem to know your info.I am just kinda getting sick of people dispensing advice ,especially to newbies about cycles and recommending ,unecessary stacks and much larger doses than are sensible.and using thing like the possibility of deca dick as one of there weak reasons>I feel anabolics are great,but diet and training are most important.With proper diet and training you will get maxium effect from anabolics.Yes it is true any loser can pop a bunch of dbol,throw in some test,fina and what the hell a few a bombs too!!!!! why not??? They all work,but that is the same loser that never learned proper diet and training and ends up a fat ,bald and full of acne scars and some huge tits to boot!!!!or just goes back to a skinny weakling like he started as.People that use anabolics like this are no better than recreational drug abusers.Its a free world so go ahead but its best to refrain form setting other on the wrong path.Juice is an excellent drug,when people that know what they are doing use it.