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Big o Boy
08-24-2003, 01:02 AM
I DO! I went to 2 competitions this past year.. placed 3rd in SS601&up class in USACi event with a score of 153.9 db's, and 2nd overall in a local bass comp with a score of 149.8 db's (accurate meter).

I have 2 solo 12's, 2 Memphis 1500d's, 2 optima red's, Alpine deck, stinger wiring, and a badace box tuned to burp at 53 Hz.

It makes some noise for sitting in the trunk of a Ford Taurus. ;)

kAiXuan
08-24-2003, 02:49 AM
dont let the car slow you down, your 5'11

-TIM-
08-24-2003, 08:43 AM
I bet the trunk rattles on that who-ride!

JD77
08-24-2003, 08:56 AM
I used to back in the day. Got 1st in SQ w/all Orion and Clarion stuff. Jerome Woods of the Kansas City Chiefs beat me by half a damn point in best of show. Now I wish I had my money back.

Stephen Riddington
08-24-2003, 09:59 AM
wth? there's a contest for best sounding car stereo system???
Agh!!! Armageddon is coming soon!!!

RoidRage
08-24-2003, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by Big o Boy
I DO! I went to 2 competitions this past year.. placed 3rd in SS601&up class in USACi event with a score of 153.9 db's, and 2nd overall in a local bass comp with a score of 149.8 db's (accurate meter).

I have 2 solo 12's, 2 Memphis 1500d's, 2 optima red's, Alpine deck, stinger wiring, and a badace box tuned to burp at 53 Hz.

It makes some noise for sitting in the trunk of a Ford Taurus. ;)


But at the end of the day you still drive home in a Ford Taurus.

RoidRage
08-24-2003, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by CanadianHomer
wth? there's a contest for best sounding car stereo system???
Agh!!! Armageddon is coming soon!!!

I was watching the tube the other day (speed channel) and theres a new contest I saw, engine blowing contest. All you do is buy a really cheap car, put it in neutral, floor the engine and in order to win you have to guess the amount of time it will take before the engine blows up. I thought it was hilarious, but thats me.

HahnB
08-24-2003, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by CanadianHomer
wth? there's a contest for best sounding car stereo system???
Agh!!! Armageddon is coming soon!!!

It must be coming, especially since you didn't know there were contests for stereos.

Big o Boy
08-24-2003, 03:57 PM
^... thankyou. And I'm not in for best SOUNDING vehicle... I'm in it for the loudest overall roar of the bass.

But at the end of the day you still drive home in a Ford Taurus.
wtf is that supposed to mean... I'm talking about stereo here, not bragging about my grandma car.. :p. For being a grandma car, it has one of the loudest systems around and can rattle people's windows in cars sitting around me at a stoplight. Anyone else have stereo equipment here... or you all just a bunch of gym rats and that's it? I'm a gym rat but on my part-time this is my hobby.

OH, and my trunk doesn't rattle... I have the subs faced forward sealed off from the trunk. windshield/rear-view mirror and roof rattles more than anything else. :)

RoidRage
08-24-2003, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by Big o Boy
Anyone else have stereo equipment here... or you all just a bunch of gym rats and that's it? I'm a gym rat but on my part-time this is my hobby.

I refer everyone here http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36027

news flash boy: THERES MORE TO LIFE THAN STEREO EQUIPMENT.

Gyno Rhino
08-24-2003, 06:46 PM
/pwned.

Stephen Riddington
08-24-2003, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by HahnB


It must be coming, especially since you didn't know there were contests for stereos.

Damn...

*** Runs and hides***

***peeks out for the Four Horsemen of the Apocylpse***

Stephen Riddington
08-24-2003, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by RoidRage


news flash boy: THERES MORE TO LIFE THAN STEREO EQUIPMENT.

:withstupi

bigedge
08-24-2003, 10:54 PM
i cant understand why you would want a stereo to go that loud

when you get out of your car it would be like coming out of a club and not being able to hear anything because the music is so loud and your ears adjust

JD77
08-24-2003, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by RoidRage


news flash boy: THERES MORE TO LIFE THAN STEREO EQUIPMENT.


He'll realize that later.

JD77
08-24-2003, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by Big o Boy
^... thankyou. And I'm not in for best SOUNDING vehicle... I'm in it for the loudest overall roar of the bass.




Why wouldn't you want good sound quality?:confused: It's damn near impossible to hear the difference between 140db and 150db. I had awesome sound quality and hit 147db with only two 12's and the car was only in accessory. You aren't one of those guys with 4 15's and a couple BOSS 6X9's in the back dash are you?tuttut You won't win anything but Outlaw SPL with just bass and no sound quality.

funkenstein
08-25-2003, 02:19 PM
My brother has a decent stereo along with alot of his freinds and my freinds. He has 2 12" fusions with a rockford bd1500 amp. He usually hits 150, 151db. He used to compete alot and win but not anymore really. JD77 you say there isnt much difference between 140 and 150? are you nuts? 10db is a huge difference, although i do agree on sound quailty, my bros stereo does sound pretty good to.

FFeJ
08-25-2003, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by Big o Boy Anyone else have stereo equipment here... or you all just a bunch of gym rats and that's it? I'm a gym rat but on my part-time this is my hobby.


i think he is just being sarcastic about the whole gym rat thing, don't take offense to it guys

JD77
08-25-2003, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by funkenstein
My brother has a decent stereo along with alot of his freinds and my freinds. He has 2 12" fusions with a rockford bd1500 amp. He usually hits 150, 151db. He used to compete alot and win but not anymore really. JD77 you say there isnt much difference between 140 and 150? are you nuts? 10db is a huge difference, although i do agree on sound quailty, my bros stereo does sound pretty good to.

10db isn't that big of a difference to my ears. Heck just adding a port to a sealed box adds 3db and you can hardly tell. Mathmatically it's a huge difference but if you're sitting in a car pounding out 140 and some guy pulls up next to you hitting 150 you won't hear him.

Big o Boy
08-25-2003, 03:51 PM
LOL... for someone who has so much to say about stereo you don't know jack $hit. :study:

I'm going to college to major as an electrical engineer and take whatever classes I need to become a technician at a major car audio comp. I research the audio world nearly everyday and I know my stuff. Saying that there's not a big difference between a car bumping 140 db's to 150 db's is just plain ignorance. Every 3 db's the sound multiplies by 2. So that car hitting 150 db's is 3.33 times LOUDER than the car at 140. And your going to hear the 150 db car sitting next to you regardless if your hitting 140 db's. And if your mid's/high's are just screaming in your ears then your going to FEEL that car next to you.


i think he is just being sarcastic about the whole gym rat thing, don't take offense to it guys
Yea, I was just messing around. Thanks.

Oh.. and although I put my focus on the bass in my vehicle my car does not sound bad by all means. I DO have one of the newer alpine HU's with the V-drive that acts as it's own amplifier with it's own internal x-overs and variables. I can make my factory speakers scream at me if I want them to... and it DOES sound good. And all I would win is Outlaw SPL? Outlaw SPL is a whole different competition than the ones I enter in. Outlaw is where you stick the mic in the port and measure the db's that it hits, and most of the time they don't carry an accurate mic. No I'm not into that, I'm into filling the whole car with sound.

news flash girls: THERE'S MORE TO LIFE THAN LIFTING WEIGHTS. WE ARE JUST TALKING ABOUT HOBBIES HERE.
^--- don't take that to offense because I lift weights all the time and am on a strict training schedule that I haven't let go of going on 4 months.

This pisses me off... I just go to talking about my 2nd hobby and I get torn into like I'm some sort of idiot for existing.

fuzz
08-25-2003, 04:01 PM
I've spent more money on stereo equipment then I care to remember. Now I'd much rather spend the money on getting something that sounds good, rather then just loud.

Good meaning having good front imaging, some nice separates like MB Quart, that sort of thing. I figure one sub would be enough for my volume taste, right now.

Big o Boy
08-25-2003, 04:05 PM
That's fine... there's nothing wrong with that. I probably as I get older lean to the high SQ system rather than the loudness. But right now I'm a bass head.

Trent_Steel
08-25-2003, 04:31 PM
My car radio has 2 10W speakers, and it distorts if you put bass though it. :cry:

JD77
08-25-2003, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by Big o Boy
LOL... for someone who has so much to say about stereo you don't know jack $hit. :study:

I'm going to college to major as an electrical engineer and take whatever classes I need to become a technician at a major car audio comp. I research the audio world nearly everyday and I know my stuff. Saying that there's not a big difference between a car bumping 140 db's to 150 db's is just plain ignorance. Every 3 db's the sound multiplies by 2. So that car hitting 150 db's is 3.33 times LOUDER than the car at 140. And your going to hear the 150 db car sitting next to you regardless if your hitting 140 db's. And if your mid's/high's are just screaming in your ears then your going to FEEL that car next to you.



LOL. Duh, every 3db makes it twice as loud theoretically but that just doesn't translate to reality. Like I said, adding a port adds 3db but it sure as ****** doesn't sound twice as loud. By your logic, two sounds at 140db equal one at 143db. It doesn't work that way.

From the Hyperphysics website:
"A widely used "rule of thumb" for the loudness of a particular sound is that the sound must be increased in intensity by a factor of ten for the sound to be perceived as twice as loud. A common way of stating it is that it takes 10 violins to sound twice as loud as one violin . Another way to state the rule is to say that the loudness doubles for every 10 phon increase in the sound loudness level."

That means 10 sounds at 140db would SOUND twice as loud as one at 140. One sound at 150db would not. Although, THEORETICALLY 3db equals twice as loud it isn't true with the human ear. The quote below exlpains why.

" When one sound is produced and another sound is added, the increase in loudness perceived depends upon its frequency relation to the first sound. Insight into this process can be obtained from the place theory of pitch perception. If the second sound is widely separated in pitch from the first, then they do not compete for the same nerve endings on the basilar membrane of the inner ear. Adding a second sound of equal loudness yields a total sound about twice as loud. But if the two sounds are close together in frequency, within a critical band, then the saturation effects in the organ of Corti are such that the perceived combined loudness is only slightly greater than either sound alone."

It's frequency relation would be very similar.....low, i.e. 30 to 60 Hz. Therefore the perceived loudness difference would not be very noticeable. This explains the phenomenon of you being able to hear the mids and highs from the car next to you although it isn't nearly as loud as yours.

Say what you want but I've been to my share of competitions and have my trophies. I've sat in my car pushing my 147db only to shut it off and realize their was one nearby with a dozen 12's hitting in the mid-150's right beside me and I never knew he was there.

Big o Boy
08-25-2003, 05:57 PM
Lemme guess... you had your windows rolled up. lol. j/k :D

And 147 is different than 140. 140 in my oppinion isn't hardly loud therefore you'd definitely hear the car playing 150 sitting next to you.

And you brought up another point. Different frequencies do make a difference on what the human ear considers "loud". a car hitting 150 @ 55 Hz might seem pretty loud, but a car hitting 150 @ 32 Hz is going to seem a helluva lot louder. That's why people at the stereo shop ask the customer what they want out of the sub enclosure.."Loud or to sound good?" Some would say loud but come to find out that they're disappointed not because it's hitting a 145 on the meter, but because it sounds like crap because it's tune to like 60 hz. So he would come back and say he wants something that sounds good. He would be more impressed because the car seems louder and sounds better. But in all actuality(sp), the car meters at 138 at 40 hz. That's probably a bad example but it all just goes to say that their are other factors that go into sound quality and loudness and we are both right/wrong in different ways because sound is a very in depth subject.

RoidRage
08-25-2003, 07:18 PM
JD77 is racking up mass /pwnage in this thread.

JD77
08-25-2003, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by Big o Boy
.....it all just goes to say that their are other factors that go into sound quality and loudness and we are both right/wrong in different ways because sound is a very in depth subject.


I can buy that.:)

Big o Boy
08-26-2003, 08:18 AM
Can we be friends now? :D

bigkevin20
08-26-2003, 10:19 AM
I have 2000 Dodge Durango and my ***** is loud. I Got 4 Soundstream SPLs and the Soundstream Class A 10.0 and the original Picasso 4 channel amp. 0 Gage wires second battery in the back and 2 farad cap and a 200 amp relay switch to control charge of car battery and system power. I have made old ladies run red lights when I was behind them in traffic.

JD77
08-26-2003, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by bigkevin20
I have 2000 Dodge Durango and my ***** is loud. I Got 4 Soundstream SPLs and the Soundstream Class A 10.0 and the original Picasso 4 channel amp. 0 Gage wires second battery in the back and 2 farad cap and a 200 amp relay switch to control charge of car battery and system power. I have made old ladies run red lights when I was behind them in traffic.

Soundstream makes really some good stuff. I used to want one of their Turantulas pretty bad.