Survey: 1AD/4AD

[frankm007]

retirez

[dsade]

Kind of limiting on the choices, there....


How about Very effective, yet with a lot of POSSIBLE side effects.

[rookiebldr]

I found it effective but pricey.

[Animal man]

I'm trying it now - 1st cycle. I take 600 mg 1AD (6 pills) and 750 mg 4AD (3 pills) per day. I've been on about 1 week. My muscles feel harder, like the pump lasts longer. Have been thru bouts of being really horny - seems to come and go. I started with a 300/500 cycle to test the water since it is my first, and after 4 days, changed to a 600/750 cycle. Have seen a little acne and some weight gain, but thats about it. I've been eating more, not always because I'm hungrier, but because I have to put some food in with the pills. I try to do 6 meals a day. I've had some cravings for protein around the time to eat. Usually, I'd want carbs or sweets, but these haven't held as much interest since I started the cycle (particularly since I increased the doses). I do want more sleep though - sometimes taking a nap when I get home from work (highly unusual for me).

I'm going to do 1/2 of a 3 week cycle with the 1AD/4AD 600/750, and then complete the cycle with 1-Test ethergels/4AD. Figured that the 1AD converts to 1Test anyway. Off cycle will be 60x0.

Oh yea, the survey. I'll be back when I've finished the cycle.

[shansen008]

Im just finishing a 4 week cycle, but i didnt use 4ad with my 1ad. Ive gotten much stronger and ginaed some LBM too, along with a little bit of fat....but my diet wasnt super clean. I was eating everything in sight.

The most problematic side effect for me was the energy loss. Like Animal Man, i found myself needing naps in the middle of the day, not wanting but NEEDING. Also i felt like i had a little more aggression in me, i wasnt takin **** from people whereas im usually pretty relaxed and laid back...kinda scary. Also i noticed a little bit of acne, but oddly enough its beens howing up on my body and not my face so much.

I start the 6-0x0 tomorrow.

[The Dream]

I'll be starting 1AD/4AD cycle in a week or so. 600mg 1AD and 600mg 4AD for 4 weeks. 6-OXO post cycle. I did a very light cycle of 1AD for 3 weeks/300mg a day and I gained 7-8 pounds. Can't wait to see the results I get this time around.

[Animal man]

OK, I'm finishing my 1AD/4AD portion of my cycle today (1 & 1/2 weeks). I'll pick-up the 1-test/4AD tomorrow. I have gained some weight. Definitely glad I stacked the 1AD with the 4AD. I've noticed that 7 or so hours after taking a dose, I get lethargic and want a nap. When I take the next dose, it picks me up (has to be the 4AD cause the 1AD is reported to induce the lethargy). I've gained almost 1/2 inch on my arms (16 1/2 to 17), with no body fat on my arms. I did pick-up some body fat though, primarily on my waist.

My workouts have gotton much better. I am prone to shoulder pain, which seems to have eased off a little. After the first week, I seemed to have more strength - I could do more sets with more weight (10 to 20 lbs). I'm starting to attack the weights, almost want to growl :-).

Has anyone noticed any headaches. I've had a few lately. At first I thought they were sinus, but now I believe they're tension (aggression under control?). Last night I had one. It was shoulder and back night. When I started shrugs, it was there. When I finished, it was almost gone (no pain killers). After I did some lateral raises, the headache was gone.

Oh yea, I'm getting wood at odd times during the day.

Overall, I'm liking the cycle. Switching to 1-test should be interesting. I originally intended to do a 3 week cycle, but now want to extend it to 4 or 6. Haven't decided yet (I guess it depends on the funds).

[Animal man]

I've finished the cycle and am on the 60x0. The cycle was great. Believe it or not, I'm bigger, stronger, and muscles are harder. I used the cycle to bulk. I did get some fat as well as muscle. I don't know bodyfat composition, but there was a gain in both. I did a 20 day cycle. 1st half 1AD and 4AD, 2nd half 1test ethergels and 4AD. I started the 1test at 150 mg's per day and after 3 days upped to 300 mg per day (3 divided doses). The last 2 days of the cycle, I dropped the 1test to 175. I did the 4AD at 750 mg the entire cycle until the last 2 days and then dropped to 500 mg.

No real sides. A little acne while on the 1AD. The 4AD effectively offset the lathargy from the 1AD/1test. The 4AD gave xtra solid wood at odd times, and increased desire and recovery.

I felt hot off and on during the day, and at night. Almost like my body was heating-up. Caused sweating, when everyone else was fine. Found that when I started workout, I'd start sweating right away. But after a bit, things seemed to normalize.

Post cycle workouts are still great. Sweating continues, but seems to be subsiding, slowly. Overall - arms increased 1/2 inch. Not sure what chest was before (around 47 inches) has increased to 49 1/2 inches. Shoulders and neck are larger also - no measurements, but shirts are tighter. Need to buy new dress shirts.

Overall, the cycle was GREAT!! Don't know if it will all last, but if I keep most of the muscle, that'll be good.

I did orals this cycle. Think I'll try transdermal next time, and go a little longer with the cycle.

[restless]

I'm also starting one soon with 1-ad and homemade transdermal 4-ad. I'll post reports here as the thing develops.

[bradley]

Originally posted by restless
I'm also starting one soon with 1-ad and homemade transdermal 4-ad. I'll post reports here as the thing develops.

Any particular reason you will be using the 1-AD as opposed to a transdermal 1-test? Just out of curiosity.:)

[restless]

Originally posted by bradley


Any particular reason you will be using the 1-AD as opposed to a transdermal 1-test? Just out of curiosity.:)

Yes.

I can't get 1-test base from within the EU and if I order from the USA customs will demand for a medical precription. Now to actually go trough the trouble of getting a medical prescription for pro hormones I would get one for steroids instead.

Unfortunately all the products I have seen that I can order from the EU have 1-test ethers so even filtering the caps they'll perform poorly as transdermals. Just that. So the choice is either oral 1-test or oral 1-ad and the feedback is better with oral 1-d so I chose that.

[bradley]

What about T-100 from SAN? I believe it is just encapsulated 1-test powder, but you would need to confirm this.:scratch:

[bradley]

Originally posted by bradley
What about T-100 from SAN? I believe it is just encapsulated 1-test powder, but you would need to confirm this.:scratch:

I mis-understood your original post, and now I see the problem. Just disregard my previous post.

[restless]

Originally posted by bradley
What about T-100 from SAN? I believe it is just encapsulated 1-test powder, but you would need to confirm this.:scratch:

Thanks for trying but I already had thought of it and it's an ether also. I don't think there's any product sold from within the EU that contains 1-test base poder. If anyone knows I'm interested in knowing.