Is it ok to take creatine with O.J

[eatdirt40]

I was jw if it was ok to take my creatine in a glass of orange juice so the taste of creatine doesnt taste so bad it kinda makes me gag, if i really have to and its more effective with water ill be a man and take it but i was just curious if it was ok, also what do all of u take ur creatine with?? thx guys

[mercury]

I don't remember why, but the citric acid in the OJ ruins the creatine.

[eatdirt40]

damnet, i hope your wrong anyone else no anything b/c thats what ive been taking it with

[bradley]

Originally posted by mercury
I don't remember why, but the citric acid in the OJ ruins the creatine.

Taking it with OJ will be fine. The citric acid should not affect the creatine, seeing as how the creatine has to pass through the stomach, which contains hydrochloric acid.

I usually just throw my creatine in with my post workout shake.:)

[Daniel Clough]

yup, mine gets thrown in with a dextrose drink.

[Animal man]

I've read that the acid does have an adverse affect on the creatine (I think I read in a copy of M&F). I used to take with my shake, but read that the creatine and the protein compete for the same medium, so they make each less effective. I did read an article that suggested taking with dextrose, or a dextrose containing drink. It gets the insulin started which helps to push into the muscle.

I tried Trak for a while - anyone try this?

[mike_isu_82]

I used Trac. worked well, but too pricey.

[bradley]

Originally posted by Animal man
I've read that the acid does have an adverse affect on the creatine (I think I read in a copy of M&F).

Creatine (methyl guanidine-acetic acid) will not be affected by the citric acid that is found in orange juice or other fruit juices. If this was the case then creatine would never make it through the stomach intact, because of the hydrochloric acid that is found in the stomach. If you have a reference stating something different I would be interested in reading it.


I used to take with my shake, but read that the creatine and the protein compete for the same medium, so they make each less effective.

Creatine is not an amino acid, so how does it compete for absorption with other amino acids? I just have not seen anything that state creatine and protein compete for absorption, but again if you have a reference please post it.:)

[Animal man]

I'll check for the articles/references, but it has been quite a while since I read the one re: the OJ. If I remember right, the recommendation was to take with apple juice.

The one on the combination with protein had to do with the creatine and the protein competing for absorbtion.

As Arnold says "I'll be back."

[shansen008]

I read a long time ago that its good to take creatine with grape juice, something about grape juice being lower on the GI. Underlying theme though is to take it with a carbo.

Ditto on the acid issue, the HCL in your stomach is WAY stronger than citric acid in OJ.

/beginnasty- Ever have one of those burps where you kinda vomit a lil bit? Remember how much your throat burned and was sensitive after? Thats HCL baby, whens the last time your OJ gave you that same feeling? /endnasty-

[shansen008]

ALso, OJ has a ton of sugar and calories in it, adding a glass of that to your diet everyday probably isnt the best thing in the world. Bulking or otherwise.

[Relentless]

Originally posted by bradley
I usually just throw my creatine in with my post workout shake.:)


:withstupi
Yup. No need to mix it its own drink.

[SoulOfKoRea]

Originally posted by shansen008
I read a long time ago that its good to take creatine with grape juice, something about grape juice being lower on the GI. Underlying theme though is to take it with a carbo.


vice versa...

Originally posted by shansen008
ALso, OJ has a ton of sugar and calories in it, adding a glass of that to your diet everyday probably isnt the best thing in the world. Bulking or otherwise.


one glass won't hurt, as long as he keeps his calories in order.

[eatdirt40]

thanx for all the posts guys and for clearing it up for me....

[Animal man]

I haven't been able to find the OJ or the protein/creatine articles - but I'm not making it up, I read it somewhere.

I did find something interesting when I was looking though - creatine is classified as a protein according to the article at this link. That may explain the other one I read that said they compete for absorbtion. http://www.doctorphyto.com/Products/Synergy_Nutrition/Articles/Gale%20Enclyclopedia%20of%20Alternative%20Medicine%20-%20Creatine.pdf

Also, something to keep in mind - all acids are not alike in the way they react to other substances. Stomach acid is Hydrochloric acid (HCL) while the acid in OJ is citric acid. Protien is composed of amino acids. HCL cannot be used by the body to build muscle. So, I guess my point is that the citric acid could react differently to the creatine than does the HCL. Just a thought.

If mixing with your shake or OJ works for you, then keep on with what works. I've stopped creatine all together for the moment - started getting lots of calf cramps.

[bradley]

Originally posted by Animal man
I haven't been able to find the OJ or the protein/creatine articles - but I'm not making it up, I read it somewhere.

I did find something interesting when I was looking though - creatine is classified as a protein according to the article at this link. That may explain the other one I read that said they compete for absorbtion. http://www.doctorphyto.com/Products/Synergy_Nutrition/Articles/Gale%20Enclyclopedia%20of%20Alternative%20Medicine%20-%20Creatine.pdf

Creatine can be made in the liver using the amino acids arginine, glycine and methionine, but creatine is also called methyl guanidine-acetic acid. Although creatine can be made using amino acids, I do not believe classifying it as a protein would be accurate, although I could be wrong.:)

I could not get the link to work, so I apologize if this was addressed in the link. I am sure it is a problem on my end, and not the link.:(


Also, something to keep in mind - all acids are not alike in the way they react to other substances. Stomach acid is Hydrochloric acid (HCL) while the acid in OJ is citric acid. Protien is composed of amino acids. HCL cannot be used by the body to build muscle. So, I guess my point is that the citric acid could react differently to the creatine than does the HCL. Just a thought.

If a more powerful acid does not have any affect, then I doubt that a weaker acid is going to have any affect. I have seen this posted many times, but never seen anything that states citric acid will have a detrimental effect on creatine.

I never stated that hydrochloric acid would be used to build muscle and it's main function is to break down food so that it can be absorbed by the body. Basically the only function of hydrochloric acid is to break down the food you consume into a form that can be absorbed by the body.

[Animal man]

You need adobe installed to get the link to work.