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Mic Soloist
08-28-2003, 08:03 PM
Yesterday I found out I was 10% BF and I thought I was more like 14%. So I decided I will be making an attempt to up my calories and gain some more weight.

Right now I am fukkin stuffed.


Here is my day

3 slices of WW bread

1 slice of White bread Post workout

1 Metrx Protein shake

2 100% whey shakes(pre and post workout)

1.5 cans of tuna

1 small piece of baked Catfish

4 Tbspns Natty pnut butter

5 cups skim milk

2.5 cups Wheaties

10 Reduced fat crackers


TOTALS

Calories: 2030
Fat: 50
Carbs: 202
Protein: 193



How did I do?

Ironman8
08-28-2003, 08:38 PM
Well, if you don't gain weight at 2050 cals, increase it until you do.

SoulOfKoRea
08-28-2003, 08:41 PM
you could lower the protein and up the fats...

Alex.V
08-28-2003, 08:45 PM
Eat more. A lot more. And get used to it. What was your biggest meal?

I could probably eat all that in one sitting and be okay.

You need to get your stomach used to taking in more food, because nobody can really bulk effectively on 2030.

Mic Soloist
08-28-2003, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by Ironman8
Well, if you don't gain weight at 2050 cals, increase it until you do.

Well I've been gaining slowly with 1800 so I think I will probably ethier get swoll or get a gut

-mic-

Mic Soloist
08-28-2003, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by Belial


I could probably eat all that in one sitting and be okay.





DAMN!!!!


you must be a big motherfukker.

I'm stuffed


I been gaining with 1800 so I think this is enough for now. I'd like to keep a low Bf%.

I'm proud of my 10%


-mic-

GonePostal
08-28-2003, 08:50 PM
You either are 1. severly under estimating your calories or 2. a freak.

EdgarMex
08-28-2003, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by Mic Soloist




DAMN!!!!


you must be a big motherfukker.

I'm stuffed



Actually he is :D

You're stuffed with 2030? I can barely get thru the day with that!

papaoso2k1
08-28-2003, 08:55 PM
dude....my little 9 year old brother cuts on 2030 cals.... :d LOL

Mic Soloist
08-28-2003, 09:10 PM
:(


I'm sorry....

MrWebb78
08-28-2003, 09:35 PM
eat more carbs, and add in some eggs and fish filets for more fat

spl_373
08-28-2003, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by Mic Soloist
Yesterday I found out I was 10% BF and I thought I was more like 14%. So I decided I will be making an attempt to up my calories and gain some more weight.

Right now I am fukkin stuffed.


Here is my day

3 slices of WW bread

1 slice of White bread Post workout

1 Metrx Protein shake

2 100% whey shakes(pre and post workout)

1.5 cans of tuna

1 small piece of baked Catfish

4 Tbspns Natty pnut butter

5 cups skim milk

2.5 cups Wheaties

10 Reduced fat crackers


TOTALS

Calories: 2030
Fat: 50
Carbs: 202
Protein: 193



How did I do?

wow, you really dont have much of an appetite...even for someone your weight that is really not much food at all...and I find it hard to believe you could gain any weight eating 2030 cals. But I have severe hunger pains eating 4000 cals a day, so I guess everybody is different.

I'd eat approximatley 24 X your bodyweight, since your 162 I'd eat 24X162 so thats 3888 cals. I would still consider that a fairly lean slow bulk. Depending on your metabolism.

thetopdog
08-29-2003, 12:32 AM
1 Box of Macaronni and cheese and an NLarge shake is about 1800cals, I know you can do better;)

bradley
08-29-2003, 02:59 AM
Originally posted by spl_373

I'd eat approximatley 24 X your bodyweight, since your 162 I'd eat 24X162 so thats 3888 cals. I would still consider that a fairly lean slow bulk. Depending on your metabolism.

Most people would gain fat rather quickly eating at 24xbw, and the bw formulas are not much more than an estimate anyway. If you are gaining at your current calorie intake why would you want to double your calories?

I am not saying that some people can not eat 24Xbw and not gain much fat, but these people are few and far between.

bradley
08-29-2003, 03:04 AM
Originally posted by Mic Soloist
Here is my day

3 slices of WW bread

1 slice of White bread Post workout

1 Metrx Protein shake

2 100% whey shakes(pre and post workout)

1.5 cans of tuna

1 small piece of baked Catfish

4 Tbspns Natty pnut butter

5 cups skim milk

2.5 cups Wheaties

10 Reduced fat crackers


TOTALS

Calories: 2030
Fat: 50
Carbs: 202
Protein: 193


I would add in some carbs post workout (more than just the white bread), and bump your fat intake up (EFAs).

Also the bread could be one of the reasons you feel so full. I know that if I eat too much bread I get that bloated lethargic feeling, so replacing some of your cals with other carb sources might be worth trying (oats, potatoes, beans, etc.).

Mic Soloist
08-29-2003, 03:24 AM
thats so crazy. I've gained 15 pounds of pure muscle eating 1800 per day. Before I began lifting I was eating like 1200 per day.


2030 is crazy for me.


-mic-

defcon
08-29-2003, 03:52 AM
and i thought i had a slow metablosime.. gesh, i bulk with appox 2800 cals and never go below 1800 while cutting, and im only 150 lbs :P

Trent_Steel
08-29-2003, 03:58 AM
dude if you metabolisim is that slow do some cardio and speed it up.

Mic Soloist
08-29-2003, 10:17 AM
I do cardio, drink TONS of water, and eat AT LEAST every two hours. Sometimes more. I don't know what else to do.


-mic-

Alex.V
08-29-2003, 10:24 AM
No. DON'T do cardio. Why the hell would you want to speed up your metabolism if you're trying to gain weight. By all means, do it for health reasons, but realize that it will make it harder to gain.

RoidRage
08-29-2003, 11:05 AM
If you have trouble getting in more calories, trying consuming more liquid meals (i.e. protein shakes, milk, weight gainers).

Mic Soloist
08-29-2003, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by Belial
No. DON'T do cardio. Why the hell would you want to speed up your metabolism if you're trying to gain weight. By all means, do it for health reasons, but realize that it will make it harder to gain.


I tried not doing cardio for a while and I seriously felt out of shape the next time I tried to run. I play bball too so I have to do cardio. I can't get out of shape. I have cut back but I can't stop.


-mic-

bradley
08-29-2003, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by Mic Soloist
thats so crazy. I've gained 15 pounds of pure muscle eating 1800 per day. Before I began lifting I was eating like 1200 per day.


2030 is crazy for me.


If you are gaining weight I have yet to see the problem. What I am saying, is that if you are currently gaining at 2000 cals then why and increase cals over that amount?

Although I see where the others are coming from, in that 2000 cals is quite low, especially to be bulking.

Mic Soloist
08-29-2003, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by bradley


If you are gaining weight I have yet to see the problem. What I am saying, is that if you are currently gaining at 2000 cals then why and increase cals over that amount?

Although I see where the others are coming from, in that 2000 cals is quite low, especially to be bulking.

th reason I am thinking about increasing is that I am gaining VERY SLOW and I found out yesterday that I am 10% BF when I thought I was like 14. Therefore I think I got some room to grow and since my summer quest for abs is over, I might as well try getting bigger and worry about a 6 pack next year.


I want to keep a low BF% but if I gotta gain a lil fat so i can get some quicker overall size thats fine.


-mic-

bradley
08-29-2003, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by Mic Soloist


th reason I am thinking about increasing is that I am gaining VERY SLOW and I found out yesterday that I am 10% BF when I thought I was like 14. Therefore I think I got some room to grow and since my summer quest for abs is over, I might as well try getting bigger and worry about a 6 pack next year.


I want to keep a low BF% but if I gotta gain a lil fat so i can get some quicker overall size thats fine.


Don't get me wrong. I am not saying that you should not increase cals, but increasing them above and beyond what is necessary just does not make much sense. There is no need to gain fat just for the sake of gaining fat, and I would recommend determing what calorie intake will give you the best ratio of LBM to fat gained and stick with that amount.:)

defcon
08-29-2003, 02:31 PM
are you sur your counting your cals right? just looking at it seems like your eating way more calories then what your counting..

3 slices of WW bread = 250 cals?
1 slice white bread = 80 cals?
the 3 shakes = prolly 200 cals each = 600 cals?
1.5 cans of tuna = almost 200 cals?
catfish ( 4 oz? ) = prolly 150 cals?
4 tsp of natty PB = 400 cals?
the milk = 450 cals/5 cups?
the wheaties = 270 cals?
the crackers = 15cals a cracker? = 150 cals

with a grand total of ~~ 2550, and i think i was being generous with some of the calorie amounts.

papaoso2k1
08-29-2003, 03:43 PM
DUDE DONT LISTEN TO ANY OF US!!!....If it aint broke...dont fix it...

Mic Soloist
08-29-2003, 03:45 PM
Here is my day yesterday...

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/DayFoodsTab.asp

Mic Soloist
08-29-2003, 03:51 PM
Bread = 280
the 3 shakes = 395
1.5 cans of tuna = 210
catfish = 46(only half piece)
4 tsp of natty PB = 380
the milk = 428
the wheaties = 275
the crackers = 72(reduced fat)

clint_rock
08-30-2003, 06:30 AM
If you wanna bulk I have a great way to seriously pack in the calories without your stomach ever realising it.
Every hour you must eat 1 slice of bread whilst you are awake. A slice of bread is small, but take 18 slices over the day, and you have got 1800 extra calories. Do this on top of you regular meal , and bingo almost 4000 calories. Believe me mic you will put on weight doing this.

papaoso2k1
08-30-2003, 03:47 PM
1800 extra calories....but in the form of a lb. of carbs....

ebrunner
09-01-2003, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by bradley


Also the bread could be one of the reasons you feel so full. I know that if I eat too much bread I get that bloated lethargic feeling, so replacing some of your cals with other carb sources might be worth trying (oats, potatoes, beans, etc.).

That is interesting. I always thought bread was to be avoided on a cutting diet, the reasons being (1) it is high GI causes large swings in blood sugar levels, and (2) because it is void of fiber and/or water, and therefore not very satisfying.

Now, I'm thinking that if bread indeed causes a satiated feeling, maybe moderate use may keep hunger in check on a cutting diet. Even if it does cause an insulin spike, if one is eating below maintenance calories, the insulin would probably not matter because there would be no spare glucose to shuttle into fat cells.

bradley
09-01-2003, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by ebrunner
That is interesting. I always thought bread was to be avoided on a cutting diet, the reasons being (1) it is high GI causes large swings in blood sugar levels, and (2) because it is void of fiber and/or water, and therefore not very satisfying.

Even though bread is higher on the GI (depending on the type), it is usually eaten with other macronutrients that would lower the GI (fats and protein).

As far as bread being void of fiber, it would depend on the type of bread that you are referring to. I use 100% whole wheat bread that has ~3g of fiber and 4g of protein.



Now, I'm thinking that if bread indeed causes a satiated feeling, maybe moderate use may keep hunger in check on a cutting diet. Even if it does cause an insulin spike, if one is eating below maintenance calories, the insulin would probably not matter because there would be no spare glucose to shuttle into fat cells.

The GI is not going to affect weight loss to any significant degree, as long as you are eating under maintenance cals. If you are burning more cals than you are taking in, then you are not going to store any of the cals consumed throughout the day as fat. Although eating high GI carbs all throughout the day will not control your appetite as well as low GI carbs, as you mentioned.