zma

[eatdirt40]

Me and my brother were thinking about purchasing a bottle of zma and im 16 and hes 14, i was wondering if you suggest taking this or if its any good. They say zma helps boost testosterone and helps you sleep and helps your strengh. Does anybody have any comments on this supplement and if you suggest using it.

[Dedicated]

It contains zinc, magnesium, and vitamin b6 mainly. There are no known side effects so it's pretty safe to take. Just make sure you read the contents to find out how much zinc, magnesium, and vitamin b6 it has. If you exceed 50mg of zinc a day it can increase the need for copper, over 100mg can be toxic. If you take more than 1000mg of magnesium a day, you can get diarhea, and if you take over 200mg of b6 you can get severe nerve pain. The important thing is to see how much of each ZMA contains. Now I'm sure it would contain less than these amounts, but if you are supplementing with a multivitamin or other minerals then it is definitely worth checking the contents so you don't get sick. An example is like when I bought my multivitamins I stopped supplementing with zinc, cause my multivitamin alrdy had zinc and it would have put me over 50mg a day.

As for results, I've only read positive stuff about it and again absolutely no side effects. Although I did read something somewhere about it causing weird dreams hehe.:)

[icanrace]

Originally posted by Xand
Bad Advice.

I think that is the dumbest thing you could suggest to a teenager. DO NOT mess with any prohormones untill you are older. It will be bad news for you boys. Play it safe. Eat tons of clean food, train hard, take a good multi-vitamin and get plenty of rest. The results will come.

[mikey4402]

Originally posted by icanrace


I think that is the dumbest thing you could suggest to a teenager. DO NOT mess with any prohormones untill you are older. It will be bad news for you boys. Play it safe. Eat tons of clean food, train hard, take a good multi-vitamin and get plenty of rest. The results will come.

im with icanrace...
you have been posting ALOT of supplement questions eatdirt. there are no miracle supplements out there besides whole food!! like my sig says supplements are ment to supplement. so make sure you get your diet in great shape then if you hit a plateau maybe try some creatine or something like that to get you over the edge. and when you do desire to take a supplement make sure you know what your doing, we cant buy ephedra anymore because people didn’t know what they was doing.

so with the exception of a whey protein or weight gainer i think you should hold off on the supplements, it seems like you are just looking for a miracle supplement, and sorry the are none

[Animal man]

I agree with icanrace - DO NOT use prohormones (ph) at your age. It can be real bad news.

ZMA is not a ph. I tried ZMA and found it ok. The advise from Dedicated is good re: amounts of zinc, etc.

You have lots of test running thru you at your age. Adequate amounts of protein and creatine will make all the difference in the world.

Generally, 1 gram of protein for 1 lb of body weight. But at your age, you are still growing/developing, so you may be able to handle more. I'd recommend spreading the protein intake out over the day so you are getting 20 - 40 grams at a time, with at least 2 - 3 hours inbetween. Increase the weight you are lifting every 3 weeks or so.

Make sure you get some carbs and vegetables/fruit. Do some research to see how many carbs, then adjust for your metabolism - if you begin to gain a lot of fat, cut back on the carbs - if you begin to thin-out too much, increase the carbs.

[icanrace]

Originally posted by Animal man
I agree with icanrace - DO NOT use prohormones (ph) at your age. It can be real bad news.

ZMA is not a ph. I tried ZMA and found it ok. The advise from Dedicated is good re: amounts of zinc, etc.

You have lots of test running thru you at your age. Adequate amounts of protein and creatine will make all the difference in the world.

Generally, 1 gram of protein for 1 lb of body weight. But at your age, you are still growing/developing, so you may be able to handle more. I'd recommend spreading the protein intake out over the day so you are getting 20 - 40 grams at a time, with at least 2 - 3 hours inbetween. Increase the weight you are lifting every 3 weeks or so.

Make sure you get some carbs and vegetables/fruit. Do some research to see how many carbs, then adjust for your metabolism - if you begin to gain a lot of fat, cut back on the carbs - if you begin to thin-out too much, increase the carbs.

Great post AM. ;)

[eatdirt40]

ok thanks

[Dedicated]

I think he was talking about the 1-AD stuff? Not sure heh. Anyways eatdirt sucks cause he can eat so much and not get fat, he eats like a pig LOL. If I ate like that I'd be 200lbs:D.

[eatdirt40]

hahaha arent u all so jelous lol jk jk

[RoidRage]

I like ZMA. Better sleep (e.g. I don;t wake up at all in the middle of the night). And I found recovery time to be a LOT speedier.

[bradley]

If you are defecient in zinc and/or magnesium then ZMA might offer some benefits, but I would recommend just purchasing the zinc and magnesium seperately. The B6 would probably not be necessary, and if you are taking a multi that should cover you, as far as the vitamin B6 is concerned.

[RoidRage]

Originally posted by bradley
If you are defecient in zinc and/or magnesium then ZMA might offer some benefits, but I would recommend just purchasing the zinc and magnesium seperately. The B6 would probably not be necessary, and if you are taking a multi that should cover you, as far as the vitamin B6 is concerned.

I don't know. I've been taking ZMA everyday for several months now and I still see great results from it.

[AllUp]

Yeah I used to take zma like a year ago, but that was when I was 21. I'd wait till 20(as some people including myself keep developing toll mid19-20). Shouldnt do anything negative, but on the other hand at your age you shouldn't det into stuff that ****'s with your hormone balance. Besides You shouldn't need zma. Maybe a Zinc and a B-Complex. :)

-AllUp

[bradley]

Originally posted by AllUp
Yeah I used to take zma like a year ago, but that was when I was 21. I'd wait till 20(as some people including myself keep developing toll mid19-20). Shouldnt do anything negative, but on the other hand at your age you shouldn't det into stuff that ****'s with your hormone balance. Besides You shouldn't need zma. Maybe a Zinc and a B-Complex. :)

-AllUp

ZMA is not going to be harmful, unless of course you take it in excess.

[bradley]

Originally posted by RoidRage


I don't know. I've been taking ZMA everyday for several months now and I still see great results from it.

Maybe ZMA is covering some mineral deficiencies that you had in your diet, but if it works for you then stick with it.:)

[RoidRage]

Originally posted by bradley


Maybe ZMA is covering some mineral deficiencies that you had in your diet, but if it works for you then stick with it.:)

maybe so. I haven't taken a multi-vit in awhile :(

[knobby]

I'm amazed that people who don't even know what ZMA is would reply to a question about ZMA. There's no reason why a teenager can't take ZMA. ZMA, as noted by some of you, is NOT a prohormone. It is simly a combination of Zinc and Magnesium (w/ some B6). Although people have made gains while taking ZMA, in a way, it's a gimick. The supplement companies are charging a bunch of money for this supplement when bought individually is much better. First, you save money. Second, you are not to take ZMA with calcium because zinc doesn't react well calcium. Little do they tell you that magnesium works BETTER with calcium. Buy magnesium and take it during the day with milk. Buy zinc and take it with water on an empty stomach before bed, much like you would with ZMA. Zinc can increase blood testosterone secretion. And please, follow the recommended dosage. Remember, they are both minerals and while they are essential to your body, they can be toxic when too much is taken.

[icanrace]

Originally posted by knobby
I'm amazed that people who don't even know what ZMA is would reply to a question about ZMA. There's no reason why a teenager can't take ZMA. ZMA, as noted by some of you, is NOT a prohormone. It is simly a combination of Zinc and Magnesium (w/ some B6). Although people have made gains while taking ZMA, in a way, it's a gimick. The supplement companies are charging a bunch of money for this supplement when bought individually is much better. First, you save money. Second, you are not to take ZMA with calcium because zinc doesn't react well calcium. Little do they tell you that magnesium works BETTER with calcium. Buy magnesium and take it during the day with milk. Buy zinc and take it with water on an empty stomach before bed, much like you would with ZMA. Zinc can increase blood testosterone secretion. And please, follow the recommended dosage. Remember, they are both minerals and while they are essential to your body, they can be toxic when too much is taken. Uhm excuse me, can you quote the post where it says ZMA is a PH?:help:

[knobby]

sorry but
quote:
Originally posted by Xand
Bad Advice.


I think that is the dumbest thing you could suggest to a teenager. DO NOT mess with any prohormones untill you are older. It will be bad news for you boys. Play it safe. Eat tons of clean food, train hard, take a good multi-vitamin and get plenty of rest. The results will come.

Sorry if I assumed, however, the above sentence implies that ZMA, since that's what we're talking about, is a prohormone, which of course, is not correct. Again, sorry if I read it wrong, but that is what is seems to me that you are saying.

[icanrace]

the original post was edited because someone mentioned to him if he wanted to increase Test to try 1AD. Then that is when I said that it's stupid to recommend that to a teenager :)

[knobby]

that's cool. I wouldn't suggest 1AD to a teenager either. Zinc and Magnesium yes. Andros, no.

[icanrace]

right on bro. I didn't realize that this thread had been edited.
By the way, welcome to WBB.

[knobby]

thanks man. I love to research lifting nutrition and if I can help people save money and make good gains I'm all about it. I hope that people will consider the zma advice and quit putting money into the supp. companies pockets.

[icanrace]

I'm sure they will IF they research it first. I know the homeade brew ZMA has been talked about many times before. Good to have folks like yourself willing to research things and share what they learn or experiance. There is a TON of knowledge here on this board and everyone here is awesome. Good luck with your lifting.