is Creatine with pepsi OK ???

[MusclesMan]

hey guys..
I've got a silly question but it's quite important for me. I'm not really a fruit fan, I don't really eat fruits or drink juices. But I can drink pepsi very well, is it ok to take the creatine with pepsi or 7up or anything similar ??? Thanx.

[SquareHead]

Wow. The dedication.

[MusclesMan]

is this a yes or no ??

[EdgarMex]

I would take that as a NO

[MusclesMan]

can I take it with milk or water then ???

[BigBoi17]

Water is usually what most people take it with...

[chainsaw76]

Pepsi, What?

[HORNEDFROGS07]

Pepsi???? Whats that????? I haven't had a soft drink in over 2 years, and my bodyfat levels really thank me for it. If you've gotta have something like that, make it a diet drink, at least.

Just use water.

[MusclesMan]

I eat very little fruits, & I mean VERY LITTLE. will that have an effect on my bulking process ??? thanx for the help guys

[jds22]

I take mine in powdered Gatorade, too much juice gives me the squirts. :eek: The container says 3/4 scoop = a serving. I usually put in a full scoop + a tad more then a rounded tsp. of creatine.

Jerry

[theomen]

Instead of taking creatine, try changing your diet. A proper diet will help a 1000 times more than creatine will.

[mikey4402]

i got a question , can i take creatine with beer?

[funkenstein]

LOL mikey, beer is good. I quite drinking pop a while ago.

I take creatine with water, dextrose and usually 2 scoops of whey.

[theomen]

Also, if you're asking if you can take creatine with Pepsi, my guess is you don't drink much water let alone 2 gallons a day like most people on creatine should.

[bradley]

Originally posted by MusclesMan
I eat very little fruits, & I mean VERY LITTLE. will that have an effect on my bulking process ??? thanx for the help guys

Fruits contain various vitamins and minerals and are also a good source of fiber, but they are not essential by any means. I would recommend taking a mult-vitamin once a day, just to ensure that you are getting adequate amounts of vitamins and minerals throughout the day, and you can get fiber from other foods.

[BUFF STUFF]

Add some to a dextrose drink.

I`m unusure about caffine effecting the creatine, becuase first time I used it was with cola & I gained quite a bit of bulk( muscle).

2nd time with fruit juice & I just felt sore and stoped use, I havnt used it since.

It could of been the placebo effect, but it worked great first time.

Does anyone have any studys to proove that caffine effects cratine absorbation?

[Belial]

For christ's sake.

YES, you can take it with pepsi. It's actually not a terrible idea. So go for it.

[BUFF STUFF]

Belial's totally right

[Belial]

and awesome.

[IceRgrrl]

Originally posted by jds22
I take mine in powdered Gatorade, too much juice gives me the squirts. :eek: The container says 3/4 scoop = a serving. I usually put in a full scoop + a tad more then a rounded tsp. of creatine.



That's exactly what I do...then I dissolve it all in hot water and drink it like tea. Good stuff...esp with the blue Gatorade powder (my favorite).

Makes people wonder about you too, when you're carrying around/sipping from a steaming glass of nuclear blue stuff...LOL!

[ElPietro]

Don't do it! I hear if you mix creatine and pepsi it fizzes up really bad and then you explode! :eek:

[IceRgrrl]

Naw, that's if you take your creatine with Pop Rocks :D

[-YZ-]

why take it with anything at all? I just shove it in my mouth dry and all and take a chug of water. done. doesn't taste like anything so it's no big deal plus you get it all down in 1 shot.

[theomen]

well caffiene is a diuretic, and taking creatine will leave you dehydrated. So unless you boost your water intake to ATLEAST 1 gallon a day, expect to have incredibly bad cramps.

[Stephen Riddington]

No, mix it with water, that what I do if there's no juice. I always take it with juice because the natural occurring sugars in the juice help retain creatine in the body a little longer. I might be wrong in this statement, but that what I heard. This is what I do before. After, I mix it along with dextrose to a juice with natural occuring sugars like grape or cranberry juice.

Pepsi should be drunk as it is. Adding anything else is a violation.tuttut (A Pepsi freak)

[bradley]

Taking creatine with carbs (sugar) will aid in the absorption of creatine, due to the insulin repsonse that is caused by the carbs.

[theomen]

^^
He is correct sir.

I used to take it with a mixture of sugar and water. It was about 1/4cup of water and a tb sugar and then shoot it. It was a bit nasty, but got the job done.

[mikey4402]

i still think you should take creatine with beer

[theomen]

how about a healthy low carb beer ;)

[Belial]

actually, a high carb beer would be better.

[SquareHead]

Drink a guinness that should cause a nice insulin spike and really push that creatine into the muscles.

[LAM]

caffiene and creatine should not be ingested at the same time but several hours apart. caffiene can block creatine uptake as they are similar in chemical structure

[BigBallaGAA]

i heard creatine is best with some gin and juice or grey goose.

:cool:

[Maki Riddington]

Originally posted by LAM
caffiene and creatine should not be ingested at the same time but several hours apart. caffiene can block creatine uptake as they are similar in chemical structure

*** Could you share with us any information, references or studies pertaining to this topic that you might have?

[Belial]

Originally posted by LAM
caffiene and creatine should not be ingested at the same time but several hours apart. caffiene can block creatine uptake as they are similar in chemical structure


Caffeine: C8H10N4O2, 1,3,7-trimethyl-2,6-dioxo-1,2,3,6-tetrahydropurine. Two rings. Two carbonyl groups. No amino groups.

Creatine: C4H9N3O2, No rings. No carbon-carbon double bonds. Amino group. Carboxyl group.


Actually, looking at the two molecules, there's almost no similarity whatsoever. Other than that they are both organic compounds. So what did you mean?

[the doc]

Originally posted by LAM
caffiene and creatine should not be ingested at the same time but several hours apart. caffiene can block creatine uptake as they are similar in chemical structure

they are not even close to each other, not even in pKa!

[SquareHead]

pKa?

[LAM]

Originally posted by the doc


they are not even close to each other, not even in pKa!

Caffeine interferes with creatine transport beause it inhibits tyrosine kinases, necessary enzymes for nutrient transport.

I was thinking about something else in regards to the chemical stuctures.

either way, you shouldn't take creatine and caffeine at the same time. you have to take them like 2 hours apart

[Maki Riddington]

Originally posted by LAM


Caffeine interferes with creatine transport beause it inhibits tyrosine kinases, necessary enzymes for nutrient transport.



*** LAM, I mean no disrespect when I say this, but often times you simply say something without showing a shred of proof.

I need more then an explanation. If the explanantion is simple then it must be easy enough for you to provide a reference backing your statement.

[arjun]

http://www.urquharts.co.uk/cdl/researchproposal/

From the research i have done caffeine may actually be a good thing to take along with creatine.

But soda shouldnt be taken at all. Caffeine dehydrates you, as someone pointed out earlier. Plus there is a very large amount of refined sugar in it, an unhealthy amount. Though i am against consuming any refined sugars. You are better off getting the slow burning sugar from fruits, honey, etc. Also i remember a lecture on carbonation and its negative effects on the bones, but i dont remember details.

Caffeine isnt too bad, if you get enough water, but getting it from coffee or tea would be healthier for you than soda.

[bradley]

The study below seems to indicate that there was no difference in the caffeine or caffeine/creatine groups, as far as creatine uptake is concerned.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=9629989&dopt=Abstract

This study deals with the effects of caffeine/creatine and relaxation time, although the difference is not really significant as mentioned by the study.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=11796658&dopt=Abstract

I could not find anything that stated caffeine would negate creatines effects on cell volume, etc.

[WestyHeadbanger]

Pepsi + creatine -------> water, co3, C02, NO3 N2So4 ------------> HCL -----------> --------->CERTAIN DEATH!!!!!!!!

[MusclesMan]

what is this equation based on ??? details PLEASE...

[MrWebb78]

this has got to be one of the most frustrating aspects of this entire board.

bottom line, weightlifting is trial and error, see what works, if it doesnt work, you wasted your time and money, if it does work, great.

[MusclesMan]

good point

[Berserker]

Originally posted by MusclesMan
But I can drink pepsi very well,
Thats a talent.
I was wondering if the cola would have an adverse effect on the creatine. Isn't it a bit acidic? All the stories about use as a cleaning solvent.

[bradley]

Originally posted by Berserker

I was wondering if the cola would have an adverse effect on the creatine. Isn't it a bit acidic? All the stories about use as a cleaning solvent.

The contents of the stomach are very acidic (hydrocholoric acid) and it does not affect negate the effects of creatine supplementation.

[IceRgrrl]

Originally posted by SquareHead
pKa?

pKa is a measure of acidity used in chemistry.


Originally posted by Belial

Caffeine: C8H10N4O2, 1,3,7-trimethyl-2,6-dioxo-1,2,3,6-tetrahydropurine. Two rings. Two carbonyl groups. No amino groups.

Creatine: C4H9N3O2, No rings. No carbon-carbon double bonds. Amino group. Carboxyl group.


See? All that organic crap IS useful for something ;)

[BUFF STUFF]

Originally posted by IceRgrrl
Naw, that's if you take your creatine with Pop Rocks :D

Now this is an idea! :)