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synthetic
09-22-2003, 03:57 PM
no chalk, straps, belt, towels ,suits, nothing!!!!!

315 normal grip
405 one hand reversed

PowerManDL
09-22-2003, 03:59 PM
Chalk doesn't mean its not raw.

And 455 for a triple.

ryan1117
09-22-2003, 04:01 PM
That's strongly dependent on the knurling on the bar though when you don't have the benefit of chalk. I'd bet I would have 100 pounds difference between a bar with sorry knurling and a bar with good knurling.

synthetic
09-22-2003, 04:14 PM
yea chalk is for raw deads, but this post is more of the measure of grip strength raw & that u can supposedly do this lift at anytime with out other equipment

Meat_Head
09-22-2003, 04:29 PM
275x2, no chalk

Bruise Brubaker
09-22-2003, 05:15 PM
385 for a single, chalkless, mixed grip.

As for a normal grip, I've never really tested my max with it, but I probably have a similar ratio to you, holding about 300 pounds. I've done one hand deadlift (with dumbells loaded with 35s as the highest plate) with 150 lbs for 2 reps.

I might be able to do 405 raw soon as I'm getting better on static holds with that weight.

EdgarMex
09-22-2003, 05:22 PM
335x1, no chalk or belt, mixed grip

Alex.V
09-22-2003, 05:29 PM
Deadlifting without chalk?

Bit of a waste of time.

harryhoudini66
09-22-2003, 05:36 PM
275x1. I have been doing deadlifts for about six weeks.

unshift
09-22-2003, 07:27 PM
350 for me, using just a water bottle and a towel

unshift
09-22-2003, 07:28 PM
Originally posted by Belial
Deadlifting without chalk?

Bit of a waste of time.

i wouldn't say so. at the gym i go to back home, i can do whatever i want without chalk (granted, i'm not DLing high 800s, but so far i haven't needed any). then, when i came to school, i find that i need chalk for even 185lbs because the bars are so piss poor.

Alex.V
09-22-2003, 07:43 PM
guaranteed you'll never lift high 800's unless you get some. :)

unshift
09-22-2003, 08:22 PM
i'd better get out of the purple gym then!

NateDogg
09-23-2003, 07:48 AM
405 with chalk.

synthetic
09-23-2003, 09:33 AM
NO CHALK!!!!!!!

Bruise Brubaker
09-23-2003, 10:36 AM
Chalk gives cancer.

j/k

What about deadlift with straps then doing grip work. I'll still be ready for the day I'll use chalk. I'd be able to deadlift more raw. I do not want my strapped deadlift to go too far from my raw deadlift, so I'll even limit myself to let my grip catch up.

Glenn626
09-23-2003, 10:38 AM
390 with a mixed grip and no belt.

Alex.V
09-23-2003, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by synthetic
NO CHALK!!!!!!!

How much can you lift with chalk? 50 pounds more? For some of us with significantly stronger grips, and significantly higher deadlifts, it would be a much larger differential. Now, if you asked what my max dead would be in a 5% humidity room, with completely dry palms and a well-knurled bar, I'd say it's almost the same.

ryan1117
09-23-2003, 10:51 AM
CHALK IS CHEATING

(I'm being sarcastic of course.)

unshift
09-23-2003, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by Belial


How much can you lift with chalk? 50 pounds more? For some of us with significantly stronger grips, and significantly higher deadlifts, it would be a much larger differential. Now, if you asked what my max dead would be in a 5% humidity room, with completely dry palms and a well-knurled bar, I'd say it's almost the same.

5% humidity and i bet you'd be on the floor from dehydration :)

Alex.V
09-23-2003, 12:08 PM
Not unless I were already dehydrated. :)

Max-Mex
09-23-2003, 12:12 PM
Never done one raw. I usually do mine with gloves. Can't use chalk at my gym. 365x2. Alternating grip.

unshift
09-23-2003, 12:16 PM
gloves?! :bash:

body
09-23-2003, 12:46 PM
can i have a bar with some thing to grip please.

then i tell you. i used to trian at a gym where the bar gave me blister even by touching it. now the bar i use would not graze my face if i scrubbed my face with it.

but i have done about 484 pounds still.

Max-Mex
09-23-2003, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by unshift
gloves?! :bash:

The bars suck at my gym. Nothing to grip. Don't see how this is any different than using chalk.

Dedicated
09-24-2003, 07:49 PM
I started deadlifting 6 weeks ago also, I can only do 225lbs X 4 though so far.

noraa
09-24-2003, 10:05 PM
somewhat over 530 at the moment, with a belt and chalk.
ABout the same without a belt, but why not chalk

what about something like stikum spray?
:)

-TIM-
09-24-2003, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by unshift
350 for me, using just a water bottle and a towel

Yikes! Where do you keep the water bottle? :scratch:

295 lbs. Belt only.

Well I was wearing clothes too, but I don't see how that's going to affect anything.

ElPietro
09-25-2003, 08:38 AM
Saying without chalk is retarded. Chalk doesn't increase your grip strength, or add support. It simply allows you to keep your grip, in the absence of good knurling, or in the presence of sweaty hands.

I never thought I'd ever need chalk until I switched gyms and my deadlift went down 40lbs because of the quality of the knurling on the bar was way worse than my previous gym.

Relentless
09-25-2003, 08:53 AM
405 completely raw

body
09-25-2003, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by ElPietro
Saying without chalk is retarded. Chalk doesn't increase your grip strength, or add support. It simply allows you to keep your grip, in the absence of good knurling, or in the presence of sweaty hands.

I never thought I'd ever need chalk until I switched gyms and my deadlift went down 40lbs because of the quality of the knurling on the bar was way worse than my previous gym.

the smith machine in my gym has one purpose. its got a decent grip on the bar, unlike the free weight barbells.

so i agree with elpeitro. the bar makes a big differnce.

note i only use smith machine for static holds and shrugs for the simple reason the abr has a good grip.

BCC
09-25-2003, 04:18 PM
515. No chalk, no belt, no underwear.

JNowiski
09-25-2003, 05:19 PM
I need to get some more weights before I can say what my max is, but the most I have been able to do is a little over 200. It was easy, but Im using two weights sets on it, so I can barely fit that on there...

I will tell you when I get some new weights...:confused:

Alex.V
09-25-2003, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by BigChaseyChase
no underwear.

That's cheating. Improves ventilation.

body
09-26-2003, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by Belial


That's cheating. Improves ventilation.

do you not cheat, by wearing really tight underwear?

Fenbay
09-26-2003, 01:28 PM
If I didnt wear tight underwear I'd be cheating by using a third leg.........

JNowiski
09-26-2003, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by Fenbay
If I didnt wear tight underwear I'd be cheating by using a third leg.........

lol right. I don't think underpants really matter that much in deadlifts...its squat I worry about, lol. That actually happened to me when I was doing full squats...glad I was at home and no one found out...until now:D

BigMatt
09-26-2003, 10:56 PM
315x1

JuniorMint6669
09-26-2003, 11:25 PM
320x1, no chalk, no knurling. We'll see what I can do once I get a decent bar and a decent left hip adductor.

Alex.V
09-27-2003, 03:41 PM
Knurling is also cheating.

chris mason
09-27-2003, 04:24 PM
800 lbs



No bar.

I did it in my dreams:) .

Delphi
09-27-2003, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by chris mason

No bar.


Exactly- using a bar is cheating. Pick up some difficult-to-handle object like a boulder. Or go pick up a big girl in a bar. ;)

Blitzforce
09-28-2003, 04:31 AM
405lbs for now, almost got 455lbs :)

synthetic
09-28-2003, 08:41 PM
hit 425! i also tried for my max but couldnt get it

i work in a high humidy gym!!!! it reeks of sweat!

well who knows what my strapped dead is now, my partner who owns straps and chalk quit lifting and grew a pussy

WestyHeadbanger
09-29-2003, 03:43 AM
420 @ 162. Chalk + Belt.

Last time i checked chalk, belts, powerlifting suits were legal in my POWERLIFTING federation. This is the powerlifting section of WBB not the chalk free section buddy.

synthetic
09-29-2003, 07:15 AM
raw raw raw raw dead only!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


if someone woke u out of bed and u had to deadlift is the point of this thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tuttut

Relentless
09-29-2003, 07:18 AM
this thread has a point?

Alex.V
09-29-2003, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by synthetic
raw raw raw raw dead only!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


if someone woke u out of bed and u had to deadlift is the point of this thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tuttut

Shoes allowed? Wait, but most bars in real life don't have knurling. So, no shoes, no pants, no knurling on the bar. RAW RAW RAW!

Also, no friction on the floor.

PowerManDL
09-29-2003, 12:12 PM
Having your hands on the bar is clearly cheating. The only true RAW is to lift the bar telekinetically.

synthetic
09-29-2003, 12:34 PM
clothes are optional? i guess

the scenerio is

you are on a desterted metal platform int he middle of the pacific ocean.

there is the hottest chick you ever seen, but there is a ______
(insert your max dead super raw weight) crushing her and it blocks all entrances to ther orfices (thats for u smartasses)

now are you going to swim across the ocean and back to get soem chalk or you gonan lift that ****!!!!!!!?????? :bash:

Wu36
09-29-2003, 12:39 PM
330x1 no chalk, cheap ymca bar.

PowerManDL
09-29-2003, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by synthetic
clothes are optional? i guess

the scenerio is

you are on a desterted metal platform int he middle of the pacific ocean.

there is the hottest chick you ever seen, but there is a ______
(insert your max dead super raw weight) crushing her and it blocks all entrances to ther orfices (thats for u smartasses)

now are you going to swim across the ocean and back to get soem chalk or you gonan lift that ****!!!!!!!?????? :bash:

And this is scheduled to happen when?

Alex.V
09-29-2003, 12:58 PM
What a stupid scenario.

ryan1117
09-29-2003, 12:59 PM
That would be cheating because if it would be crushing her, it wouldn't be pulled from the floor.:D

synthetic
09-29-2003, 01:24 PM
:swear: :bang: DAMN U MAKE ME MAD I WILL GO DO SOME SQUATS NOW GRRR :soapbox:

PowerManDL
09-29-2003, 01:35 PM
Breeze through a grammar book while you're at it.

BCC
09-29-2003, 01:38 PM
Well now that you put it that way, I'm going to factor in adrenaline and Mr Bigglesworth the trouser snake. 700 :)

Alex.V
09-29-2003, 01:40 PM
How hot? I mean, that's a factor. Also, since she's being squished, she's providing some assistance. Are they real?

BCC
09-29-2003, 02:03 PM
Is access to the orifices guaranteed once the lift is completed, and if not, can it be put back on her?

Alex.V
09-29-2003, 02:05 PM
Yes. Sort of a conditional lift. And also, I mean, how far does the bar have to be moved? Just enough for access, or enough for her to breathe as well?

PowerManDL
09-29-2003, 02:21 PM
Breathing's optional, IMO.

Saint Patrick
10-23-2003, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by Bruise Brubaker
385 for a single, chalkless, mixed grip.


:withstupi


I'm going to get some chalk later today and go for 405lbs :)

DEADLIFT4405
10-26-2003, 03:10 PM
My best deadlift without straps or anything, nor chalk is 585 for a single, I think I'm going to go for 600 within the next month. I always wondered scientifically why chalk makes a difference I think its because it illiminates the access oil on your hands giving your hands a better grip.......?????? I'm just guessing.
I lift with the clothes on my back and thats it. I would lift naked if I could, lol...... oh yeah and thats mixed grip

ChampionLifter8
10-26-2003, 03:16 PM
270 is my max which is a new pr for me + 20 llbs from 250!!!!11

synthetic
10-30-2003, 08:24 PM
hit 405x7 & 455x1 with no grip assistance crap!!!!!
ok ok used belt :p
grip workouts make a big difference!!!

BigCorey75
10-30-2003, 09:36 PM
550, (i dont wear a belt for deads at all) no straps and no chalk

theomen
11-11-2003, 10:16 PM
what if I was standened on an island that's completly covered in chalk? Could I use it then?

Alex.V
11-11-2003, 10:32 PM
*snort*

haha

WestyHeadbanger
11-11-2003, 10:59 PM
Originally posted by theomen
what if I was standened on an island that's completly covered in chalk? Could I use it then?

Yeah and what if there was a massive dust storm (chalk storm) on that island. There'd be no other option but to do your deadlift with chalk.

MixmasterNash
11-11-2003, 11:00 PM
What if...

The olympic bar IS cocai... er, chalk.

-TIM-
11-11-2003, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by Fenbay
If I didnt wear tight underwear I'd be cheating by using a third leg.........

Guess we'll have to start calling you Tripod.

Shroud
11-12-2003, 12:44 AM
All my deads are raw so 325...soon to be 345...maybe this week....conventional.

synthetic
11-17-2003, 10:29 PM
new pr 475!!!!!!