View Full Version : dairy products=evil??

Hot Shot
09-04-2001, 06:40 PM
why dairy products are said to be evil for cutting?

09-04-2001, 07:22 PM
I've never heard this. You need dairy products in your diet in my opinion.

I add cheese to my eggs for breakfast and use skim milk with my shakes.

09-04-2001, 07:33 PM
Dairy is never evil!

Milk rocks!

Most dairy is high in cals and lactose. Thats why people don't think its that great for cutting.

09-05-2001, 07:28 AM
Lactose, the sugar carbohydrate found in milk is evil. A tall glass of milk has as many simple carbohydrates as the average candy bar.

09-05-2001, 08:37 AM
But it doesn't cause the insulin response.

09-05-2001, 09:08 AM
But it promotes fat storage :)

09-05-2001, 09:09 AM
2 words:

Full fat.

09-05-2001, 09:12 AM
More fat storage...
Why full fat?
You can get animal fat from any other sources as long as they don't contain lactose.As for CLA,you can survive without it.

09-05-2001, 09:15 AM
full fat = less carbs.

09-05-2001, 09:17 AM
Are you serius?

09-05-2001, 09:17 AM
doh..stop editing while i'm posting.

yes i'm serious.

the more fat in any given dairy product, the less carbs. any nutrtition label will show you that.

granted i'm not making a judgement one way or the other...i'm just stating a fact.

09-05-2001, 09:18 AM
I don't want to insult you but it's 0.1 gram less carbs..

09-05-2001, 09:19 AM
And I changed my post to make it more chique! :D

09-05-2001, 09:21 AM

did i lie? it's less carbs right?

09-05-2001, 09:28 AM
Of course,it contains less carbs.. It's realistic.

Then,it contains some saty fats which raise insulin and decrease insulin sensitivity in the long term period.

In combination with the -undoubtable- fat storage promoting lactose we come to a wonderful result.Fat...

09-05-2001, 09:30 AM
It's not the dairy that promotes fat storage. It's the excess in calories.

So it replenishes liver glycogen. How's a cup of milk any worse than an apple?

09-05-2001, 09:32 AM
The excess in calories promotes weight gain.

The body's composition can be changed without being below or above maintenance levels calories.
-Sorry for the typo error.-

09-05-2001, 09:33 AM
technically an apple does have more grams of sugar in it then a cup of milk does.

09-05-2001, 10:30 AM
Sun - why does it not cause the same insulin response? Lactose is broken down very quickly and easily by the body...

the doc
09-05-2001, 10:41 AM
lactose is broken down from a disacceride to its monosaccaride equivalents -1 glucose and 1 galactose. Then in the small intestinal walls, the UDP-gal process converts the galactose to glucose. It (glucose) can replace muscle glycogen. Therefore it is not like fruit (fructose) which is processed in the liver and stays there.

I agree w/ trys that higher fat milk is preferred to skim. The fat in the milk will satiate the user much more the skim. This will give you a full feeling and prevents concumption of very large volumes of sugar (the real evil for cutting).

09-05-2001, 11:58 AM
That's right but it's not the point.

If you can control yourself,skim milk is better,yoghurt is even better and no dairy is the best...

09-05-2001, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by Blackalpha
The excess in calories promotes weight gain.

The body's composition can be changed without being below or above maintenance levels calories.
-Sorry for the typo error.-

so dont drink a whole galloon evrey day, a cup of milk with your
protein powder is fine, i continue to use milk during cutting
never had a problem getting bf% below 8 even drinking milk
so go ahead and enjoy you milk people in no way is it evil

09-05-2001, 07:28 PM
Gino, lactose is one of the hardest sugars to digest, you've been misinformed.