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JNowiski
10-25-2003, 12:01 PM
Do you think its a waste of time to try powerlifting without a spotter? I have only had a spotter a few time, and I maxed out each time. I have been doing low rep/high sets since I started, and made gains, but I don't think I can make any great gains without one. I think I would have it 200 on the bench a few weeks ago if I had one to start out with.

BCC
10-25-2003, 12:04 PM
Squatting and deadlifting I think you would be ok. But benching...no.

JNowiski
10-25-2003, 12:07 PM
I dont have enough weights to max on deadlift (Im working on getting some more) and don't have squat rack...

Also, can';t afford gym membership. I have mainly been focusing on O-lifts anyway though, trying to get those up.

Reinier
10-25-2003, 12:10 PM
I have never seen an olympic lifter with a spotter

Bruise Brubaker
10-25-2003, 12:46 PM
Dangerous, yes, waste of time, no. All you need is a powerrack.

JNowiski
10-25-2003, 12:46 PM
I was mainly talking about bench pressing. When I first started lifting, I was into Powerlifting (well, I wanted to do strongman, but need to get my basic strength up) and people said O-lifts help out with strongman also, but I never really did those lifts, until a few weeks ago. My O-lifts are pretty low, but I just started and am slowing making progress.

JNowiski
10-25-2003, 12:48 PM
I have hard the bar on my check a couple times, but If its not that much, then it doesn't really bother me, I just slide it down my check, sit up, lift it and set it on the floor and do some rows or something, lol.

ChampionLifter8
10-25-2003, 02:39 PM
yeah i joined a new gym and dont know anyone i did bench the other day without a spotter and the weight almost locked on me... trust me u need a spotter for bench. Im working on getting a workout partner. Good luck

KingJustin
10-25-2003, 02:55 PM
I used to do 1 rep negatives on bench without a spotter. If it gets stuck, as you said, you just roll it down to your abs and push it to the side, get up while holding the bar, and then continue pushing the bar to your side until it's off you entirely.

I still do ME Bench without a spotter once a week and I never have problems, but if I think I can bench press 100 lbs, I'll usually get up to 90, hit that, hit 95, and then decide whether or not I have a fair chance of hitting 100. If I decide I do, then I'll be sure as hell to push as hard as I can without it getting stuck so that I don't have to bother rolling it off.

RG570
10-25-2003, 05:31 PM
try doing that when your bench is 300+

EdgeCrusher
10-25-2003, 06:57 PM
If you don't have a regular spotter, ask someone to spot for you - even if you don't know them. Don't be shy, you NEED someone to spot your lifts.

And I'm confused - while a home gym might be cheaper in the long run it isn't in the short.

Dedicated
10-25-2003, 08:21 PM
I workout at home so I lift without a spotter, however when I go for my 1RM on bench I make sure I have a spotter. It does suck especially because you can't risk it for that extra rep sometimes. Still, I think working out at home is more convenient, so it's a tradeoff I guess, and no I don't think it's a waste of time.

EdgeCrusher
10-26-2003, 12:01 AM
Originally posted by Dedicated
I workout at home so I lift without a spotter, however when I go for my 1RM on bench I make sure I have a spotter. It does suck especially because you can't risk it for that extra rep sometimes. Still, I think working out at home is more convenient, so it's a tradeoff I guess, and no I don't think it's a waste of time.

I saw your journal and you indicated your lifts might be higher with one. Grab a friend or anyone to spot you. Kidnap the mailman.

PowerManDL
10-26-2003, 01:17 AM
Power racks have safety pins for a reason.

Dedicated
10-26-2003, 08:19 AM
Originally posted by EdgeCrusher

I saw your journal and you indicated your lifts might be higher with one. Grab a friend or anyone to spot you. Kidnap the mailman.
Yea just yesterday actually I could have pushed for that 6th rep on bench if I had a spotter. Could have used that for the contest we are in. For some reason I have this mental picture of my mailman spotting me now lol.

JNowiski
10-26-2003, 01:31 PM
yeah, I was looking at some benches today, I would like to get a power rack, but I don't really see that in the near future.

DEADLIFT4405
10-26-2003, 02:45 PM
If you can afford a garage gym you can afford a gym membership. I look at it this way, if I can spend a 1.00 a day on something I don't even need, than I afford a 25-30.00 a month membership, because 1.00 a day is 7.00 a week and 30.00 a month. Forexample
Day 1: you buy a pack of gum, .99
Day 2: 2 Cheeseburgers at a mcdonalds 2.00 ( you can eat at home)
Day3: ect.........
and so forth. If there is a will theres a way

DEADLIFT4405
10-26-2003, 02:51 PM
One time I was benching in my garage (when I didn't have a gym membership nor a vehicle) and I got 300lbs stuck on me when I was working out, and I rolled it down my stomach and onto my legs, and than sat up and deadlifted it off me. Its not fun, actually its kind of scary, cause you always think to yourself what would happen if I didn't have a spotter and got a whole fatmans load on you and you couldn't get it off, you don't know wheather or not to yell or to try to get the weight off ya. So having a spotter would be a plus, he doesn't have to touch the weight, but if you can't get it off at least your not stuck, lol

WaterWalker
10-27-2003, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by PowerManDL
Power racks have safety pins for a reason.

Yeah, about that........I have never benched in a power rack, but I was considering purchasing one. Do the safety pins get in the way? I mean can you actually bring the weight all the way to your chest? If you can, it seems that the pins would be worthless. :scratch:

ryan1117
10-27-2003, 12:56 PM
Most power racks have pins or holes so you can adjust the safety pins. If things don't quite line up, you can always elevate the adjustable bench with some plates under it. (that's what I did to line things up exactly once)

JNowiski
10-27-2003, 01:53 PM
yeah deadlift, thats what I do, I have never lifter my max alone. My max right now is 190lbs, I dont don't lift anything over 175 by my selft (at least not for reps).

DEADLIFT4405
10-27-2003, 06:18 PM
I get a spotter for anything over 225, its better that way so you can save energy when he gives you a lift. That way when you get to your important lifts you can lift heavy.

barbellan
10-27-2003, 07:23 PM
a rack is good and supposely safe .But a spotter can be motivating too , because rack do not talk !
I think that to have a spotter or not depend on each personality and on the fact that you have confidence in yourself or not !...but I will say it is better to be savety then sorry !...so find you a good spotter who don't take of the weight from you to fast if he see you slowing down cause of the weight , he needs to trust you also.

phreak
11-25-2003, 07:23 AM
Originally posted by WaterWalker


Yeah, about that........I have never benched in a power rack, but I was considering purchasing one. Do the safety pins get in the way? I mean can you actually bring the weight all the way to your chest? If you can, it seems that the pins would be worthless. :scratch: You do not set the pins to the height of your chest. Set them to the height of your neck. THAT is the body part you should be most concerned with. Deaths from benching without a spotter are always caused by asphyxiation. If you can't get it back up, ease it down onto your chest (which is flexible anyway) and roll it towards your neck. Then the bar is supported by the pins and you can wiggle out from under it.

Bruteman
11-27-2003, 06:24 AM
Originally posted by phreak
You do not set the pins to the height of your chest. Set them to the height of your neck. THAT is the body part you should be most concerned with. Deaths from benching without a spotter are always caused by asphyxiation. If you can't get it back up, ease it down onto your chest (which is flexible anyway) and roll it towards your neck. Then the bar is supported by the pins and you can wiggle out from under it.

LOL, I do that quite often when going heavy on bench.

wannabefit
12-01-2003, 08:01 PM
i waould say only if u had a power cage or smith bench other wise try to find a spot

Berserker
12-15-2003, 06:55 PM
I do it. Not doing huge weights. I think one draw back is your can't push yourself as hard. I am sure theres lots of times I could have done another rep,but chickened out because I didn't have a spotter.