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NYC
10-30-2003, 02:25 PM
I am 25 years old and have been working out now for almost 3 years. I have been reading the forums for a little while now and a few supplements seem to spark my interest, maily 1-AD and 1-Test. I am not familiar with these products, but very interested. I am 5'5" and 147 lbs. I have seemed to plateau a bit, and am having trouble in increasing weight. I am looking to bulk up a bit over the summer, but at the same time try to maintain my low body fat. Would either of these products be helpful to me? What is preferred? What dosages should i take? Where is the best place to order it from? And is it suggested to take anything post cycle to avoid gyno or whatever? Any info is greatly appreciated. Thank you

bradley
10-30-2003, 05:16 PM
This link has some good info and should provide some helpful information.

http://forum.avantlabs.com/index.php?act=ST&f=25&t=4266

NYC
10-30-2003, 05:40 PM
Thanks! That's great info, but i am looking for the opinions of people on here, what they suggest out of these types of products for my goals. What is the safest route to go about using these products? etc...

bradley
10-30-2003, 05:57 PM
There is some opinions in the sticky at the top of the page, if you have not seen it already.:)

1-test/4-AD is the most commonly used when trying to gain weight, and I would venture to say that transdermal application is the most common method of delivery.

Since this would be your first PH/PS cycle I would recommend starting out with low dosage to judge your tolerance, and then increase the dosage. Your diet and training would also need to be in order before considering a cycle.

NYC
10-30-2003, 06:04 PM
Diet and training have been in order, im very dedicated. Where is a good place to get these supplements from? And is 6oxo good to follow up this cycle with or should i get something like nolvadex? Thanks i appreciate the help.

bradley
10-30-2003, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by NYC
Diet and training have been in order, im very dedicated. Where is a good place to get these supplements from? And is 6oxo good to follow up this cycle with or should i get something like nolvadex? Thanks i appreciate the help.

You can purchase them from www.1fast400.com and 6-OXO would work fine for post cycle recovery, although I would keep Nolvadex on hand just in case you see any signs of gyno. Better safe than sorry IMO.:)

NYC
10-30-2003, 06:12 PM
Sweet. Couple last questions before i leave you alone haha. What would the dosages be like for a beginner cycle, and for a regular cycle? How much 6OXO should be taken post cycle? Is it best to get nolvadex locally or is there some place you guys know how to get it easily or cheaper?(i know it's prescription) Thanks, you have been a HUGE help.

bradley
10-30-2003, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by NYC
Sweet. Couple last questions before i leave you alone haha. What would the dosages be like for a beginner cycle, and for a regular cycle?

It would depend on the product in question. What brand, delivery method and PS/PHs are you going to use (I am assuming 1test/4-AD)?

How much 6OXO should be taken post cycle?

This would depend on the cycle length, but here is an example of a 6-OXO post cycle dosing schedule, which was taken from the link above (written by Pogue).

"6OXO
6oxo is an aromatize inhibitor sold by Ergopharm. It is the best over the counter anti-estrogen available for post cycle use.
Week 1 – 600mg daily in two divided doses, morning and night
Week 2-3 – 400mg daily
Week 4 – 300mg daily"

NYC
10-30-2003, 07:41 PM
Yes i am going to try what you suggested. What brand and delivery method is suggested for best results? I went on 1fast400.com and saw quite a few brands. I am going to take the 6oxo post cycle. Anything on the nolvadex questions above or is that stuff not discussed publicly here? Thanks

ElGringo
10-30-2003, 08:20 PM
NYC, Im in the same boat as you are. Im considering getting the One+ from 1fast400.com

Its a combination of 1-test and 4-AD.

So far Ive been told to do an 8 week cycle of it and then do a post cycle of 6oxo.

bradley
10-31-2003, 04:01 AM
Originally posted by NYC
Yes i am going to try what you suggested. What brand and delivery method is suggested for best results? I went on 1fast400.com and saw quite a few brands. I am going to take the 6oxo post cycle.

I would go with S1+ by Dermabolics, which is a transdermal that contains both 1-test and 4-AD. One bottle will last you ~2weeks assuming you are going with 5 squirts 2x per day, so you will need to buy more than one bottle if you plan on going on a longer cycle.

SETITOFF
11-02-2003, 03:23 PM
so a bottle of S1+, and a bottle of 6OXO??? i'm thinking about trying PH in about a month.
SETITOFF

bradley
11-02-2003, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by SETITOFF
so a bottle of S1+, and a bottle of 6OXO??? i'm thinking about trying PH in about a month.
SETITOFF

Yes, assuming you are planning on a 2 week cycle.