2nd cycle

[smalls]

I finished my first cycle about 5 weeks ago and will be starting this in about 4-5 more weeks. I gained 28 and kept 21, currently 201 at 6', 22 years of age.

Test E 500mg/week 1-12 (sydgroup)
EQ 400mg/week 1-12 (sydgroup)
Dbol 35mg/day 1-5 (BD pinks)
Prop 150mg EOD 13-15 150mg
HCG 500iu 2xweek starting week 4?
L-dex .5mg EOD 1-17
Nolv 10mg day 1-19
R-ALA 600mg/day 1-10
NAC 800mg/day 1-10
Proscar 1.25mg/day 1-20+
Clomid 100mg for 7 days 50mg for 11 days starting 4-5 days after prop is ended.
This looks like a lot but I decide not to include my cholesterol supplements and vitamins so be thankfull you didnt have to wade through that haha.

Mostly curious on HCG since there are so many conflicting opinions and theorys out there. What do y'all think. Thanks in advance.

[Severed Ties]

Your HCG is dosed right but you should run it the entire time your on.

Other than that everything looks good.


ST

[smalls]

HCG starting week one eh? What exactly is the reasoning behind that.

[Severed Ties]

Your body will stop/severely reduce LH production the first week it's exposed to androgens. The lower dose HCG protocols work as a replacement dose for LH so you prevent any shutdown or drop in LH production to prevent any drop in leydig cell production of testosterone. If you go on for 4 weeks and let the testicles shut down you usually need more than a replacement dose of LH to bing them back to full production. While a higher dose shot of HCG could be used we know higher doses of HCG can cause leydig cell problems so it's best to avoid higher doses of HCG completely.

ST

[smalls]

Thanks man, that makes perfect sense. I appreciate the help.

[galileo]

If you run HCG at those levels throughout a cycle, would you need extra at the end, or could you jump into tamoxifen right away (assume a short ester test, in this case)?

[tony touch]

u dont need to run nolva throughout the entire cycle. keep it on hand in case of gyno coming on. save the nolva for post cycle.

other than that, i love the cycle! you should grow like a weed@!

[Severed Ties]

Gal you can jump right on tamoxifen when the androgens taper out.

Gyno shouldn't be much of a problem with such low doses of HCG.

ST

[smalls]

I'm actually using the nolv for its cholesterol benefit, I'm not worried about gyno. I will run the HCG at those doses and as long as there is no testicular atrophy I will just start on nolv and clomid as planned, if some testicular atrophy still occurs then I will most like use 500iu a day for 4 or 5 days, sound good?
Thanks for the help guys, I appreciate it.