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rovelive
12-30-2003, 07:23 AM
Hello hows it going.
My names Tj i am 19 years old from Melbourne Australia.
Now i am looking to get supplements to bulk, strip fat, and make me lift more.

Now the one what is everywhere down here is muscle tech but everyone on this forum says stay away from it what other supplements do you suggest bearing in mind we dont have any anabolic stuff here , just plain old supplements (Australia is always behind in alot of stuff hehe)

What are the best supplements around ?

My main goal at the moment is to put on bulk, about 30 kilograms - i know its alot but thats my long term goal, and then strip the fat off later on, but in the process of bulking up to be really fit so i can run without getting puffed out, to look fit, to be healthy etc.

I will be using this with a routine and eating healthy diet, but unsure what they are at this time i have to work them out.

So what supplements do u think i need to talk in what order also to reach my goal.

PS - When in the process of bulking up i dont wanto look fat if i am putting on bulk i wanto look muscular - would this happen or ?

Please write back thankyou.

aka23
12-30-2003, 11:43 AM
So what supplements do u think i need to talk in what order also to reach my goal.

I don't think you "need" to take any supplements. Plenty of people have had excellent results without them. Some supplements may offer additional benefits for some persons, such as EFAs, a multivitamin/mineral, creatine, or protein powders. I would recommend focussing more on training and getting adequate calories/protein/carbs from foods.

PS - When in the process of bulking up i dont wanto look fat if i am putting on bulk i wanto look muscular - would this happen or ?.

It depends on many factors. Two key ones are your training history and your body fat. Gaining muscle while losing fat is relatively common among untrained and overweight persons. Some studies which found this effect are listed below.

http://www.exrx.net/FatLoss/DietExStudy.html
http://www.exrx.net/FatLoss/WTCalLBWStudy.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=3337037&dopt=Abstract

You can find studies where subjects gained muscle and lost fat with strength training alone, strength training + cardio, or cardio alone (usually HIIT type). In such studies the subjects are almost always overweight or untrained, usually both.

As a person becomes more trained, it becomes more difficult to gain muscle, and gaining muscle usually requires a postive calorie balance. Similarly the body likes to maintain a certain body fat set point. As body fat decreases, it becomes increasingly difficult to continue to lose fat, and gaining muscle while losing fat becomes more difficult.

This body fat set point can be manipulated in several ways including improving training (weightlifting, doing cardio), dietary changes, and supplementation. Certain types of exercises have more effect than others. A trained/lean person may be able to gain muscle and lose fat by eating near maintenence calories and using such methods, but at some point they will also reach a plateau where further changes are not possible.

Generally it is more efficient to focus on one activity or the other –- gaining muscle or losing fat. You can minimize the amount of fat gained or muscle lost by eating a clean diet near calorie maintenance (such that you gain/lose under 1lb per week), and by doing a combination of weightlifting and cardio.