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twizller
01-05-2004, 09:46 PM
I've been lurking around this site for a while, but havent been posting, just reading and researching and im finally ready for a cycle. :evillaugh

I`ll be doing a 6-8 week cycle of 1-test (the gel cap form) with 6-oxo for post recovery, while stacking up on protein.

I'm using a cycle i found on this board (forgot who posted it, sorry) and it goes something like this:

week1: 100mg 3xday
week2: 200mg 3xday
weeks 3-6: 300mg 3xday
week7: 200mg 3xday
week8: 100mg 3xday
week9-13: 6-oxo 300mg/day

Now my question is, should i also add 4-ad in my cycle, and also some sites had S1+ made by Dermabolics which states that it has 1-test and 4-ad in it, should i buy the S1+ which has both, or just buy 1-test and 4-ad seperatly, and if so, what make would you recommend and from where? (Must ship to canada)

Thanks the help

JustinASU
01-05-2004, 11:12 PM
That sounds like a bad way to go about a first PH cycle. I would do no more than 4 weeks at a time, preferably 2 on 2 off 2 on 4 off, using an anti-e such as 6-oxo or nolva during off weeks. And if you're bulking 4-AD can be a welcome addition to 1-test, esp. to combat sides such as lethargy and decreased libido.

twizller
01-06-2004, 02:41 PM
So would you suggest buying S+ which has 1-test and 4-ad in it already, or buy 1-test and 4-ad seperately? And if so, which 1-test and 4-ad would you recommend in buying and trying and from where (best deal)?

Thank you for answering/helping me out.
Sorry for so many questions

Panacea
01-07-2004, 08:38 PM
I am doing a cycle of 4AD and Meth1Test right now. I am also taking milk thistle and hawthorne berry just because someone said I should and it cannot hurt. With this combination, I have had little to no lethargy...I actually think that my libido has increased, but I do get some pretty serious lower back pain from time to time. I take care of that with potassium and ibuprofen. I am real pleased with my results so far. I started my journal around the beginning of this cycle.

I am doing 4 weeks of 4ad and weeks 2-4 of M1T. I have gained close to 13 pounds, but I have been eating like a maniac and not being super choosy about what I eat, although my waist has not got any bigger.

Holto
01-08-2004, 10:01 AM
two things

first: it's obvious you need to read up on ph's

second: it's obvious you don't know enough about nutrition to make this worth while

sorry to sound harsh but I just hate to see someone screw up their body when they think they know what they are doing