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Celestial
09-23-2001, 01:36 PM
I was curious what is the ideal female body fat percentage is for a "fit" female. Any ideas? Thanx!

nejar462
09-23-2001, 02:10 PM
I think a woman could be fit at like 12% or a bit more, of course, a woman could be banging at like 7%. I'm not exactly sure though

syntekz
09-23-2001, 02:15 PM
I'm not sure, but it is higher than men.

heathj
09-23-2001, 02:17 PM
14-18% is pretty damn good.

Celestial
09-23-2001, 02:22 PM
Yeah i heard it was higher in that 14-18% are too but I wasnt sure. IF you go to low doesnt it start causing problems in the female body?

heathj
09-23-2001, 02:45 PM
Yes, if they go too low they stop having periods and all and it messes up their menstral cycle or something. I'd say the majority of women have 20-30% bodyfat.

PowerManDL
09-23-2001, 03:05 PM
14% is about the bottom end for a non-competitive female to be healthy. 12 would be ok, and 10 is really waaay too low.

Celestial
09-23-2001, 03:47 PM
I was just trying to get an idea where I should possibly be when I am totally "fit" Right now I am between 26-29% I can get an accurate reading from the machine unless I take my body jewlry out....so we did the pinch test through the computer..and there is a 3% grace area. I was thinking maye aiming for 18% or basically jsut see how I look and feel as time goes on....

body
09-23-2001, 04:25 PM
the level of fat% you look good at is right.
but 18% sounds a good goal thats achievable.
send in your pics as you get there and you will get a long list of replies.

BTW most body fat test are not to acurate so use a mirror as well.

Tryska
09-23-2001, 04:52 PM
18%-22% is considered "ideal". Below 18% and you start running the risk of not having cycles anymore, but a lot of women can go way lower then that, without a disruption in cycles.

The average female is somewhere between 27-30% I heard...but i find it hard to believe.....well i guess if you have those that are 10% and those that are like..40% i guess that would be kinda average..i don't know.

body
09-23-2001, 05:28 PM
i think the average female is 20-30% with men being more 14-24%. females are higher as its due to thousands of year ago when less food available, this made a better fuel reserve for pregnancy, while men helped to be leaner for catching animals etc.

Tryska
09-23-2001, 05:34 PM
don't forget T&A.

actually...estrogen stores in brown adipose tissue (triceps, thighs, that pooch thing, breasts and butt) until it reaches a threshold that kicks off FSH and the whole monthly thing. which is why it's a bit higher, plus the whole pregnancy issue. which came first, evolutionarily speaking i don't know.

Fauxpas916
09-23-2001, 05:43 PM
I recall reading in an older issue of Women's Fitness International that the "ideal" bfp for a fit woman is right around 12%. Mine is lower than that, or at least it was a few months ago... when I got it tested for the first and only time. Do you think it is bad to be lower than the "ideal"? I suppose that height and weight is most considerable when calculating though (I don't know much about it.)... and Lord knows I don't have height! :rolleyes: Does anyone know how that works?

Tryska
09-23-2001, 05:49 PM
hey..as long as you feel you look good and your period shows up every month, you're cool.

oh and BF% is not height dependent.

Fauxpas916
09-23-2001, 05:50 PM
Also, when you all mentioned that it messes with your menstrual cycle if you are below 14% or what-not.... how do you mean? Does it make it irregular for some reason and, if so, what is that reason? I am right around 7% body fat and don't feel like it complicates or restricts my body in any habitude.

Tryska
09-23-2001, 05:52 PM
as i said above....estrogen stores in bodyfat, until it reaches a threshold level at which time, the pituitary sets off FSH, stimulating the ovaries and setting your menstrual cycle off. If your bf is too low for that, it will manifest as irregular periods to start and then a total absences of periods, where you start risking osteoporosis, among other things.

Celestial
09-23-2001, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by body
the level of fat% you look good at is right.
but 18% sounds a good goal thats achievable.
send in your pics as you get there and you will get a long list of replies.

BTW most body fat test are not to acurate so use a mirror as well.

I will be getting some now pics within the next 3 weeks then I will post a begore :rolleyes: picture (embarrassing) and an now picture...there is quite a difference but i still have a way to go. Hopefully next spring or so I will be close to where I want to be.


IS there an aboslute way to get an accurate body fat percent level reading?

Fauxpas916
09-23-2001, 05:56 PM
Ahhh, I see. Sorry, I didn't see that above! You know so much..... Thanks!

body
09-23-2001, 06:07 PM
I would not worry about a absolute bf% reading as long as it taken consitently. if its 5% out, but taken the meaustrement the same way it should still be 5% out therfore you can see if you have lost fat levels.
under water weighing is a good way but this exspenive and inconvient.

Celestial
09-23-2001, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by body
I would not worry about a absolute bf% reading as long as it taken consitently. if its 5% out, but taken the meaustrement the same way it should still be 5% out therfore you can see if you have lost fat levels.
under water weighing is a good way but this exspenive and inconvient. Wow I never even heard of underwater weighing..how does it work and whats involved?

body
09-24-2001, 11:15 AM
under water body weighing

It works by dipping you in water. as you know your weight the amount of water displaced equals your volume.
Now you know these two answers (weight and volume) you can work out your body density. using some more calculations you will work out your body fat level.

It works on the fact lean body mass is more dense than fat. so higher your density the less body fat you have.

This is why i can not swim as fast as i used to as i spend half my energy keeping above water.

Maki Riddington
09-24-2001, 04:29 PM
The majority of women that I've seen get there bodyfat tested has been inbetween the 18-27% margin.

These women are healthy and fit. They don't sport a "six pack" but they are taking care of themselves.

Celestial
09-24-2001, 05:53 PM
And I was thinking this whole 26-29% I had was high. I mean I still have a way ot go of course but it's not as bad as I thought:)

Jane
09-25-2001, 03:16 PM
Yeah, losing your period is really dangerous. Without estrogen, the calcium in your diet is doing jack for your bones, and osteoporosis is a pretty scary thing. Thats what I'm trying to recover right now, I have really bad bone density. Its more important to have a healthy body on the inside than to force your body to show your sixpack or whatever on the outside.

And dont you get really sensitive to cold with low bodyfat (below 18-26% "the norm" for women)?

Celestial
09-25-2001, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by Jane


And dont you get really sensitive to cold with low bodyfat (below 18-26% "the norm" for women)? You know what I am starting to get cold now all the time compaired to when I weighed a lot more. I live in florida and i wear jackets and sweatshirts...is it just ebcuase my body still isnt used to the change yet?

IceRgrrl
09-25-2001, 05:04 PM
Naw...it's probably just something to do with your internal temp. setting. I've been as low as 16% bf (about 19-20% right now) and I am always warm, even in the North in the dead of winter. My sister is just the opposite...always cold.

PowerManDL
09-25-2001, 05:06 PM
I thought women were cold-blooded anywa....

I know, I know:

tuttut tuttut tuttut

IceRgrrl
09-25-2001, 05:29 PM
See PowerMan? There's another little thing I bet you didn't know about us Northern girls...;) We're hot in more ways than one... :p

Cold-blooded? Nope. Cold-hearted? Well, that's a matter of opinion (j/k!)

Jane
09-26-2001, 01:26 PM
Icergrrl, you're lucky, I am always always cold. It was a joke among my group when we went to europe in august and in school I am so miserable when I dont wear a sweater. My friends make fun too; "hey, you're from russia, how can you possibly be cold???" :) I think upping my bodyfat should help it though, because I know I wasn't like this before.

Tryska
09-26-2001, 01:29 PM
how's your hair texture jane?

Jane
09-26-2001, 01:35 PM
Getting better, actually, thanks for asking. I think its a combo of higher weight+higher percentage of fat in my diet that did it. Its not quite perfect, but hey, whos is?
:)

Tryska
09-26-2001, 01:37 PM
well do me a favor....after you gain back to where your supposed to be, if you are still cold like that, and your hair is still brittle, or falling out, have your doctor check your thyroid levels.

Jane
09-26-2001, 01:59 PM
no prob tryska, but could you just tell me why, exactly? :) I have heard of overworking thyroids and underworking thyroids, but I'm not sure if you can develop on of these or are you born with them?

Tryska
09-26-2001, 02:02 PM
you can develop either, and starvation can take it's toll and make your thyroid sluggish, as can taking the Pill, or genetics, or lots of soy products, and a whole list of other stuff.

Jane
09-26-2001, 02:27 PM
really? im on the pill now, do you think my thyroid might be slowed? what happens if it is? The only side effect I've heard of is slowed metabolism.

Alex.V
09-26-2001, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by IceRgrrl
There's another little thing I bet you didn't know about us Northern girls...;) We're hot in more ways than one... :p




Mmmmm........... *slap*

hmm?
oh!
what?


*ahem*


Sorry.

:D

IceRgrrl
09-26-2001, 03:22 PM
Heh heh...I like to turn the thermostat WAY down at night so my sweetie has to huddle for warmth :) It's just more fun that way...

Tryska
09-26-2001, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by Jane
really? im on the pill now, do you think my thyroid might be slowed? what happens if it is? The only side effect I've heard of is slowed metabolism.

well your thyroid controls metabolism sweetie. symptoms include inexplicable wiehgt gain/inability to lose weight (not something you have to worry about at the moment), extreme fatigue, always feeling cold, brittle nails, brittle hair and hair falling out, dry skin, and a range of other symptoms. don't worry about it right now, because your body is probably all out of whack as it is, but once you've totally stabilized (give it a year or so), if any of that stuff is still going on, then talk to your doctor.

Jane
09-26-2001, 05:38 PM
Cool, tryska. Thanks for explaining and caring. :D

Tryska
09-26-2001, 05:52 PM
no worries chica!
:)

PowerManDL
09-27-2001, 12:25 AM
T, you and your thyroid problems.

You know damn well its that fertilizer you use on your pot plants.

Tryska
09-27-2001, 08:50 AM
dl...tuttut

never ever discuss the hyrdoponics in public.

:angel:

cherryswitch
01-02-2002, 03:18 AM
From a "Medical" position, the target range for a fit, average female is 16-25%, male, 10-20%.

gino
01-02-2002, 01:37 PM
My mom is at 8-9% bodyfat and she's freezing all the time. When she was overweight, she was always hot.

TreeTrunks
01-02-2002, 01:46 PM
I like my women to have like 4% bodyfat. I'm looking for a women with an eating disorder. I love skinny women!!!

Reinier
01-02-2002, 01:54 PM
"I like my women to have like 4% bodyfat. I'm looking for a women with an eating disorder. I love skinny women!!!"

i dont think any real eating disorder could cause bf% to drop that low. it would take good dieting.

people who have eating disorder and lose weight like eating nothing or hardly anything will lose mostly muscle and not fat, staying at about the same bf%, given they were slim before.

TreeTrunks
01-02-2002, 01:56 PM
My bad I meant 60% bf. But I was thinking you would understnad where I was coming from, guess not.

Reinier
01-02-2002, 02:05 PM
actually i did but i wanted to post that anyway in case anybody didn`t know what i sayd. it seemed important and relevant to the thread.

But you guys, a woman would not have normal cycles when having a bf% that is rather normal for males who are "fit"?

so this pic of Pumpgirl from Elite, she wouldn`t have normal periods? (regardless of any drug use)
this pic shows a little breast but no nipple. i hope its ok i didn`t block the little bit out. i dont think people will feel offended by it or anything

gino
01-02-2002, 02:09 PM
I want to marry a woman with a body like that. Perfect.

Tryska
01-02-2002, 02:10 PM
she's not 4% dude..i'd put her at closer to 10%, if not a tad bit higher. i think she prolly still has periods too.

Reinier
01-02-2002, 02:32 PM
i did not say she was 4%.

gino is totally right she hot.
she doesn`t seem to be so sure herself though she just keeps on and o posting pics on elite so guys compliment her for 5 pages long, makes you think she needs the confirmation

Reinier
01-02-2002, 02:36 PM
look at some of the pics on www.shreddedbabes.com then (warning pornish site)

they don have periods? messed....

Tryska
01-02-2002, 04:49 PM
okay...

a. they aren't shredded.

b. "porn-ish" is an understatement. that was not porn-like. that was definitely porn.

drug use aside, this is what "shredded" females, with extremely low bf, and not getting periods look like:

http://www.discountdealers.com/FBBG/pgs/Fronts1.html

(warning - some of these err.."ladies" are kinda scary.)

Tryska
01-02-2002, 04:53 PM
these chicks are a little less scary....

http://www.discountdealers.com/FBBG/pgs/Legs1.html

basically what i wanna point out is hallmarks of extremely low bf on a woman (who weight-trains), low enough to cause menstrual cessation, would be clear ab definition, pec definition and quad separation. If their little pooch is gone, there bf is extremely low. (the pooch is there to protect the ovaries and uterus - highly estrogenic)

pastdoubt
01-02-2002, 04:59 PM
I think... in spite of what some of you might say, sex with those kind of women would be very very painful, and very very disgusting.

YatesNightBlade
01-03-2002, 03:37 AM
:( :eek: :cry:

Some of them pictures are foul ..... awsome .... but foul.

Tryska
01-03-2002, 04:24 AM
i know! i'm looking at those cuts and especially some of their quads and i'm like damn...good work! and then i realize what ti is i'm actually looking at. heartbreaking in a way.

YatesNightBlade
01-03-2002, 06:34 AM
chicks with dicks.

Reinier
01-03-2002, 08:06 AM
i dont think any of those have an attractive body.

i think its cool when you can really tell a girl works out and shes got some strength but when she has like striations and bigass veins popping up... naahhh

a little low bf is cool though, when you can see some ab.

the doc
01-03-2002, 09:59 AM
i would say in that first like the one in the upper left hand corner has retained a feminine look but of course she is quite small compared to some of the others. In the second link the asian lady also seems to still be feminine and overall those women look much less androgenized. All the rest have that caveman look going :eek:

Are they to have taken AAS?

Tryska
01-03-2002, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by the doc

Are they to have taken AAS?

huh?

the doc
01-03-2002, 10:10 AM
anabolic androgenic steroids... ;)

Tryska
01-03-2002, 10:14 AM
*lol*

i know what they are.....i was confused by the sentence structure.....are you wondering whether they are in fact juicing? was that rhetorical? my brain hurts.

the doc
01-03-2002, 10:23 AM
yes i wanted to know if they all have used to get where they are.

Tryska
01-03-2002, 10:29 AM
judging from the adrogenization....i'm gonna have to go with a resounding YES.

about the only women fromt hat gallery who may not have....i would say....possibly the chick at the pulldown bar on the first link, and the asian chick in the second one.

it's hard to tell, but a. it's very hard for women to put on that "quality" of muscle naturally, and b. i would even venture getting BF that low, naturally.

the doc
01-03-2002, 11:17 AM
well i was just thinking that they could take some anavar (right?) which has low side effects. so they are all probably taking something.

SInce the site was discountdealers.com i thought they were dealing at a discount :D

Tryska
01-03-2002, 11:21 AM
yeah...anavar is a little less uhh..hardcore, but can still cause some interesting sides, from what i've read. as for discountdealers..i don't know what's up with that...i just did a search on female bodybuilders. (which was prolly my first mistake)

gino
01-03-2002, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by YatesNightBlade
chicks with dicks.

Thay would suck getting a hand full of sausage when you're expecting apple pie.

YatesNightBlade
01-04-2002, 04:40 AM
You'd be expecting apple pie from those chicks ??? The Goatie beards would give me a clue.

Reinier
01-05-2002, 11:46 AM
omg... that pic i posted before of that chick off elite she squats 320, ass to floor. so very very deep squat 320, for a chick that actually looks good. seems rare