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Max-Mex
03-22-2004, 02:12 PM
Is this an issue? It's obvious that in BB it's rampant and the testing is a joke, (like the MLB and NFL). How strict are PL'ing federations when it comes to testing?

ElPietro
03-22-2004, 02:38 PM
This depends on the federation. Some are quite strict, others do not test at all. Even the ones that claim to be strict are going to vary from affiliate to affiliate. I don't think there is any organization that could claim that they are 100% drug free.

My personal experience is with the CPU which is an affiliate of the IPF. I know for a fact that if all sample collections went by the book, as ours did for that comp, there is no way that any "sample switching" could occur. Of course, that may not be true depending on who runs things and who collects the samples, etc.

ElPietro
03-22-2004, 02:40 PM
Don't tell me you are thinking of running a cycle of Test for your wife to get an edge in that bench comp! :p

Max-Mex
03-22-2004, 02:56 PM
LOL! No, but some of the women I've seen competing sure like like they are on the juice.

Max-Mex
03-22-2004, 02:58 PM
Just wondering how much of a problem, well not a problem, but how much of an affect drug use has on PL'ing. It's impressive to see all the records being set, but how much of it is due to drug use.

rerard
03-22-2004, 03:09 PM
Just out of curiousity, how long does it stay in your system? Im just wondering cause if its not very long than testing at the comp itself doesnt really mean much right?

Saturday Fever
03-22-2004, 03:15 PM
Look at it this way, if you went to a bodybuilding competition, you could accurately guess that 80% of the competitors were using steroids. The same can be said for powerlifting. Testing is a joke. But like bodybuilding, steroids are just a tool of the trade.

Max-Mex
03-22-2004, 05:21 PM
Ok well that would make sense. I guess you have to be a little naive to think that it would be clean. Some of the women are pretty damn scary and don't look much different than the femal BB'ers some times. It's a shame really but as you said, part of the trade.

phreak
03-23-2004, 01:32 AM
From a European (IPF) perspective I can tell you that most competitive lifters I know or have known use(d) roids. Some (even some very good ones) don't. The testing at international level is quite strict, but given that very little out-of-competition testing occurs, it is easy to beat. The countries that do have o-o-c testing usually perform very poorly on the international stage (Holland being one of them).

As for the ethical aspect of it: I have no problem with lifters using steroids as they were meant to be used, i.e., for recovering after an injury. However, as the difference between valid and illicit use is hard to determine, it would probably be best to either get rid of them completely or fully legalise them. And seeing as the athletes are always one step ahead, legalisation would be the more practical choice.

chris mason
03-23-2004, 07:03 AM
Virtually every top level powerlifter uses steroids. Period.

Future
03-23-2004, 07:10 AM
Define top level.