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McBain
03-26-2004, 11:35 PM
ok my computer has usb things but i need to plug in something called firewire, now is there something that i can use to plug in a firewire (wtf) thing into my computer?

jagleaso
03-26-2004, 11:37 PM
does your computer have one of these: http://www.tomshardware.com/newsletter/vol3/20/images/msi-firewire.jpg ?

McBain
03-26-2004, 11:53 PM
all i got when i clicked was a pictuer of a hammer and it said toms hardware guide?

Saint Patrick
03-27-2004, 12:00 AM
Firewire (IEEE1394), requires a seperate card if you don't have one integrated. You can buy one at a local computer shop.

McBain
03-27-2004, 12:07 AM
ok thanks guys, looks like it wont be as simple as i thought :thumbup:

Reinier
03-27-2004, 12:38 AM
Yeah you need a special card. Firewire can transfer files at a huge speed right?

MixmasterNash
03-27-2004, 01:26 AM
I know way too much about firewire. It sucks my ass. Whatever moron decided to make it operate at 400Mb/sec rather than 2x270Mb/sec will die if I ever meet them.

Sorry, just venting after years of digital video hell.

ectx
03-27-2004, 06:06 PM
LMAO, Feel the same way about Firewire2?

Majestic
03-27-2004, 09:57 PM
I know way too much about firewire. It sucks my ass. Whatever moron decided to make it operate at 400Mb/sec rather than 2x270Mb/sec will die if I ever meet them.

Sorry, just venting after years of digital video hell.

I believe Apple invented Firewire....it's been around for about 10 or 11 years.

The fact that the rest of the PC world caught on late.....as usual......doesn't meant that Firewire wasn't a well thought-out protocol.

The iPod has been using Firewire since it's inception 3 years ago. In fact, it blows the doors off of USB sooooo badly, the local CompUSA had kids coming in, plugging in their iPods, and downloading Microsoft Office from the demo units in under 60 seconds (supposedly). Guess nobody ever considered that even bloatware could be stolen and ported onto a portable hard drive in a matter of seconds.

It's fast......REAL fast, and Firewire 2 torches smokes along even faster.

jagleaso
03-28-2004, 12:00 AM
http://www.macspeedzone.com/archive/5.0/de/gifs/firewirevsscsi.gif

harryhoudini66
03-28-2004, 01:09 AM
I have read that firewire and USB 2.0 is not that much diffrent. Also, with regards to firewire cards, some mobos have internal firewire connections.

Max-Mex
03-28-2004, 05:38 AM
Firewire on a Mac works flawlessly. On a PC, in can have it's problems. That's more of a Window's issue than a firewire issue.

GonePostal
03-28-2004, 04:31 PM
Firewire was not invented by Apple... Have you ever noticed the name IEEE1394? IEEE is a consortium of sorts that standardizes standards such as firewire, cellular services and networking protocols (and much more).

Majestic
03-28-2004, 05:17 PM
Firewire was not invented by Apple... Have you ever noticed the name IEEE1394? IEEE is a consortium of sorts that standardizes standards such as firewire, cellular services and networking protocols (and much more).

Slow down, my friend.

Apple *invented it*, and then allowed/ushered it to became an industry standard.

Read:

Who Invented Firewire? (http://www.dvshop.ca/dvcafe/museum/dvmuseum2.html) :study:


....and this excerpt from another FireWire article:

"Cupertino, Calif.-based computer maker invented FireWire in the mid-90s and guided it to become the cross-platform industry standard IEEE 1394. The company now puts FireWire into every computer it sells. "


Anyway......Firewire rocks. Firewire 2 is gonna be sick. :strong:

ectx
03-28-2004, 09:56 PM
I agree. I used it with a first generation iPod and to transfer files under target mode from my laptop to desktop, and now under Firewire over IP. They all seem to work flawlessly. I've had no problems with video transfer on my mac either.

As I understand it the overhead for USB2.0 makes it slower than firewire despite it's 80 Kbps theoretical advantage. Tech TV did a test comparison and showed that hard drive read speeds were between 30-70% faster than USB 2.0 and write speeds were between 16-48% faster than USB 2.0. That's the old 400Mbps firewire, not the new 800Mbps firewire. I also don't think USB 2.0 can be used to power your peripheral like firewire.

And yes, Gonepostal, Apple did, as majestic pointed out, invent firewire.