I forget to take my creatine from time to time and usually just take it the next day and sometimes will double the dose anyone do this ? Or is their an advantage or disadvantage to this ?
I know take ginko right :bang:
Alaric
04-04-2004, 12:34 AM
I wouldn't double dose on it, just take it the next day.
I remember reading somewhere on this site that your body needs only 2g of creatine a day. I'm sure it won't hurt you if you miss a day or two.
Shao-LiN
04-04-2004, 01:08 AM
Missing 1 day is nothing to obsess about. You don't need to double dose the next day.
zwarrior99
04-04-2004, 07:43 AM
Yea I forget all the time lol. I just continue the same dose the next day.
icanrace
04-04-2004, 09:15 AM
yes, just take it the next day is fine. It takes some time for your creatine levels to drop in your body anyway.
chris mason
04-04-2004, 10:18 AM
Not a problem to miss it as the others have mentioned.
thanks guys i still take 5 grams as i'm old school i know some gets wizzed out but anyway there seems to be a difference for me taking a little more
Chris i think we discussed that about the protein as well any way thanks fellas
ogarchamplin
04-04-2004, 07:02 PM
I wouldn't double dose on it, just take it the next day.
I remember reading somewhere on this site that your body needs only 2g of creatine a day. I'm sure it won't hurt you if you miss a day or two.
The Optimal Creatine Dosing Schedule
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Most people just don't know how to take creatine in the most efficient and cost effective manner. You can take creatine just about however way you like, but it is most likely not the most efficient way. This dosing schedule concentrates on efficiency, most people take far too much creatine, and a lot of it ends up in the toilet. Now, lets get started...
The typical creatine supplementation protocol begins with a loading dose of 20 g per day for 5 days. This is completely unnecessary. 5 days is over doing it, Although a 5-day loading period is most common, 2 days of loading has been shown to yield similar muscle creatine concentration and performance results. Again, efficiency. Also, "A study by Green et al found that the addition of a carbohydrate solution (90 g four times daily during the loading phase) further enhanced the increase in muscle creatine concentration relative to taking creatine alone."
This is usually followed by a "maintenance" dose of 5-10g per day, which is excessive, 2g per day is all that is needed.
"Muscle concentrations of creatine and PCr return to baseline levels approximately 28 days after discontinuing creatine supplementation."
For those of you that oppose loading (for whatever reason, many people feel it's dangerous, which has never been shown to be true), 3 g per day for 28 days results in muscle creatine concentrations similar to 2-5 days of loading.
"It is important to note, however, that skeletal muscle has a creatine storage capacity of 150 to 160 mmol/kg (normal is 125 mmol/kg), which makes over supplementation futile. This is important information for those who think that more is better. Any excess creatine ingestion will not further increase muscle creatine but will simply increase urinary creatine and creatinine excretion."
Excretion of creatine by the kidneys at a rate of 1 to 2 g per day is via irreversible conversion to creatinine in skeletal muscle.
So, now to wrap this article up...
The Optimal Creatine Dosing Schedule:
First 2 days of creatine supplementation - Load with 10g, 2 times a day (20g per day)
After the loading phase of 20 g daily for 2 days, maintenance should be 2 g per day, Any extra is simply urinated out.
Only repeat the loading phase if you discontinue use for more than 28 days.
Written by Justin Frank.
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Optimum08
04-04-2004, 11:24 PM
On the topic of creatine, i've heard so many different opinions bout whether Pre or Post WO that i do not know which is "better" i used to take it Post then i read that it was better Pre(for use to convert to ATP) so i started taking Pre but now i just read Maki Riddington's new supplement article and it says it is most beneficial PostWO,can n e one clarify?
Thanx
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