I heard and read an article and talked to doctor that protein bad for you is it?

[MisterEThoughts]

I heard and read that drinking protein messes up you blood makes it thicker and messes up your heart basically it messes up your body? and i talked to a doctor he told me that they are just trying to make teenagers buy it to make money just like cig he just said just train 4 5 times a week and rest and do it slowly also eat like 7 8 times a day maybe even more thats all you really work out smart and eat a lot thats all you don't need protein also protein has like 40 50 g your body can't take that much wouldn't it be better to get like 20 15 from food and the food digests the protein little by little rather then putting more into you 50 60 g in one time?

[PiKappaWRX]

umm i don't have the energy to reply in depth, but i'm sure someone will. all i will say is that protein is good. also that you wont see results without consuming it. in terms of drinking it vs. eating it, whey is taken straight from milk. so if you don't believe in drinking milk, then i guess don't take whey. to each his own. but drinking protein is not going to kill you.

[dxiw]

he is simply saying to go over... the recommended amount for a sedentary 150lb guy is around 50g... for athletes and such you can get away with 100-120..i used to be crazy about it but its all mental.. i'm eating 120 now and making better gains than with 220... and less kidney problems..anyways, i'm sure someone will comment in greater detail

[Beast]

kidney problems
That's why excess protein can be bad for you.

[latinomasfino]

That's why excess protein can be bad for you.
thast y u drink plenty of water to prevent taht

[Optimum08]

:withstupi

[MisterEThoughts]

hmmm so protein ok? but even the doctor said it's not?

[latinomasfino]

hmmm so protein ok? but even the doctor said it's not?
thast wut my doctor saids too but u have to understand they are not sports doctors and they dont specialize in people who do strenuous activities like us. We require the extra protein bcuease our muscles wear and tear duing our workouts more than the average person. this helps in recovery and muscle growth..its like drinkin water normal people require far less water intake than those involved in sports.

[SoulOfKoRea]

the only difference with eating foods containing protein and drinking a protein shake is convenience. you can get 20 g of protein from a lean steak, or you can consume a shake that has 20 g of protein (+ the protein from milk). eating a lot of protein will not cause kidney problems unless you already had kidney problems to begin with. also, if your doctor doesn't already know this, even protein shakes take time to digest, it's not like you drink it and suddenly it's in your "blood" - which is ludicrous to say that it would thicken it, or even mess up your heart - your doctor is comparing CIGARETTES WITH PROTEIN? get a new doctor.

[Behemoth]

Haha, either you didn't take his advice quite right or the doc's a quack. What he was probably telling you was protein powder isn't necessary (it isn't). They do market protein powder to be more valuable than it really is to the body (yes). He told you to eat 7, 8 or more times per day... you'd have to be eating saltine crackers and plastic to not get tons of protein eating 7, 8 or more meals per day.

Protein may begin to cause some people problems if they're eating in excess of 400 or 500 grams daily will insufficient hydration. But I think almost everyone here will agree that 400 or 500 grams daily is far more than necessary.

By the way, just look at people in different parts of the world. Eskimos, or island people eating mad amounts of fish, or just anywhere were it's customary to eat a lot of meat, their cultures don't have problems.

Conclusion. Your doctor was telling you that you don't need to buy hoards of supplements to get big. Just make sure you get enough nutrition in you. Good fats, complex carbs, ample protein, vitamins, minerals, anitoxidents, plenty of water etc. I guarantee if you eat like that and even if you consume more protein than you doc would reccomend that you'll be much much healthier than 95% of the population.

[latinomasfino]

Haha, either you didn't take his advice quite right or the doc's a quack. What he was probably telling you was protein powder isn't necessary (it isn't). They do market protein powder to be more valuable than it really is to the body (yes). He told you to eat 7, 8 or more times per day... you'd have to be eating saltine crackers and plastic to not get tons of protein eating 7, 8 or more meals per day.

Protein may begin to cause some people problems if they're eating in excess of 400 or 500 grams daily will insufficient hydration. But I think almost everyone here will agree that 400 or 500 grams daily is far more than necessary.

By the way, just look at people in different parts of the world. Eskimos, or island people eating mad amounts of fish, or just anywhere were it's customary to eat a lot of meat, their cultures don't have problems.

Conclusion. Your doctor was telling you that you don't need to buy hoards of supplements to get big. Just make sure you get enough nutrition in you. Good fats, complex carbs, ample protein, vitamins, minerals, anitoxidents, plenty of water etc. I guarantee if you eat like that and even if you consume more protein than you doc would reccomend that you'll be much much healthier than 95% of the population.



:withstupi

[the doc]

dont take nutrition advice from a physician

a typical physician has had a mere 2-4 weeks of training in a nutrition module and that IS IT

[chris mason]

Your physician, assuming he is an intelligent man (or woman), is speaking about an excessive consumption of protein. The problem with his advice is that what is excessive is highly questionable. It can vary dramatically amongst individuals. In addition, even in excess, there is not much evidence that protein is going to be harmful unless taken in GROSS excess (in the healthy individuals).

[latinomasfino]

Your physician, assuming he is an intelligent man (or woman), is speaking about an excessive consumption of protein. The problem with his advice is that what is excessive is highly questionable. It can vary dramatically amongst individuals. In addition, even in excess, there is not much evidence that protein is going to be harmful unless taken in GROSS excess (in the healthy individuals).
:withstupi
chris once again nice words man

[AllUp]

Yep. Most doctors know the stats of only regular people and not the highly physically active. If you followed the base RDA for protein (50g) depending on your routine size and goals, one might never gain any real mass. Not to mention your muscle recovery will be s***.

[AllUp]

Just the same way they look at their little BMI chart, plug in your stats and say you're obese when your Huge, vascular as hell, have veins popping out all over your body and a shredded 6pack. O_o

[latinomasfino]

yea man im getting pissed at my parents for naggin all the time about me takin protein powder. just cause i buy it in big tubs of 5lbs they think its drugs hahah wut ignorance. my mom even stole my protein jub and brought it to my doctor hahah the doctor told her the same thing he told u..man they dont know anything

[dxiw]

basically the excess protein puts stress on your kidneys - if you already have kidney problems or are susceptible to them then you may develop them - this goes with liver and heart too.. my uncle is a kidney doctor and he says non active people should follow RDA but active people should follow about double the rda so somewhere around 100-120g.. assuming you weigh 150ish pounds.. if you weigh 250 pounds then of course you need like 200 somethin grams because your huge..but for most of us 100-120g is sufficient - which you can get from a normal diet - of course eatin 150 or 180 won't hurt you short term (given you have no preexisting health conditions - which u might not even no) but in the long term it can..my uncle has several patients who developed severe kidney problems from constant high amounts over long period of time (10 years)... do like your doctor said and eat natural good foods all the time - you'll end up eating 120 or 130g without even trying..

[ectx]

How would excess protein make your blood thicker and strain your heart. I'll buy kidney problems, but nothing else.

[PiKappaWRX]

haha i took glutamine and my mom thought it was cocaine! that was the greatest. i'd mix a shake w/ protein, glutamine, and creatine and she thought i was taking illegal drugs.

[latinomasfino]

haha i took glutamine and my mom thought it was cocaine! that was the greatest. i'd mix a shake w/ protein, glutamine, and creatine and she thought i was taking illegal drugs.

lol yup parents are so ignorant :smoke:

[ogarchamplin]

dont take nutrition advice from a physician

a typical physician has had a mere 2-4 weeks of training in a nutrition module and that IS IT

I feel kinda lucky my family PCP is into lifting so i can ask questions like what about Creatine and he will respond either with what he has read or his own experiences using the stuff. So when my PCP says yes eat alot of protien 1gram per pound of bodyweight and use Creatine if you like(just dont use more than what you should) i feel kinda lucky