fall plans for a good friend

[tony touch]

ok a good "friend" of mine just finished a 4 month test/tren cycle (tren for 8 weeks, test for 12) and will be off until the summer is over. He will be bridging with eca/clen and creatine and a perfect diet.

heres the first draft of his fall bulking cycle:

test enanthate- 1 gram a week for 10 weeks
dbol- 50 mg a day for 8 weeks or drol 100 mg ED for 5-6 weeks.
fina-100 mg ED weeks 6-12
ECA or clen-2 weeks on/2 weeks off throughout entire cycle.

oostcycle- clomid or nolva for a month along with the rest of my PCT program.

everyone knows how i am with nutrition and he is the exact same way.
lots of clean calories and 400 grams of protein a day.

remember this is only a first draft....the entire cycle could look totally different within days

[Severed Ties]

Just run the tren straight through and drop the dbol.


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[JustinASU]

Hellava cycle there. Looks solid to me but dbol @ 50mg a day would make me look like a ball of squishy water.

[twisteddendrite]

Hmmmm wheres the prop?

I'm no d-bol, d-rol fan either.

I'm running 250 Test E, 100 Prop, 100 Fina all EOD (Fina for first 4 weeks and last 4 weeks of 12)

I'm not sure I would run ECA/Clen during a bulk. (but I've never tried it)

[tony touch]

clen/eca is fine during a bulk, i always do it (mostly ECA). with the amount of food im eating, it helps keep metabolism high and is very important to me pre workout. Only problem is stunted hunger but there is always a very accessible solution to stunted hunger.

When bulking, I prefer high dose dbols in the beginning but I love prop. Something to consider is the fact that if prop was the kickoff, there would be ED injections for almost the entire length of the cycle...scar tissue sucks man! prop/fina at the end is a possibility however

[tony touch]

ok dbol is now dropped out of the equation...there will be no orals present in this cycle.

test-1 gram 12 weeks
deca-400 mg a week 10 weeks

possibly.....not sure if my "friend" wants to use fina for a fall bulk but rather save it for the spring when he's more worried about staying real lean

[Reloader]

Dang sure are alot of non dbol fans out there..I always thought it was a good no nonsense stapel gear? Espicially if its harder for u to get other stuff.

[tony touch]

nope i luv dbols but at this point, i see no need for orals anymore....i just dont need them to bulk...ill only start using dbols again if i either get them dirt cheap, free or i decide to compete

[tony touch]

or test-1 gram a week
fina-100 mg EOD

soooooooooo many choices but so much time to figure out

he's gonna keep it basic but blast the essentials

[the doc]

moooooooo!!!!

[WillKuenzel]

nope i luv dbols but at this point, i see no need for orals anymore....i just dont need them to bulk...ill only start using dbols again if i either get them dirt cheap, free or i decide to compete
Why would you use dbol if you are getting ready to compete? What would be different about the cycle other than diet?

[Shark]

Why would you use dbol if you are getting ready to compete? What would be different about the cycle other than diet?

I was thinking the same thing. What's the deal with that?

[tony touch]

well i really wasn't talking pre-comp, more like me bulking heavy and hardcore for a competition. Right now, im done bulking heavy (i did that for years and it worked amazing)...everything is about quality. I know, though, that in order for me to show up on stage with the size and condition that i expect....id have to first get up to 210 lbs at about 12 percent and 210 lbs on 5'5 frame is ****ing a lot....i really don't have the desire to get up to that weight right now but there is a main reason why i won't get that heavy right now...

my body is just not ready to be that heavy...I'd look sloppy at that weight and very unaesthetic......I enjoy being lighter and ripped right now (lots of veins..i love that) and i want to see my muscle mature and go through many more bulking and cutting phases before i ever take it to that level....did that make sense?

dbols and anadrols do not fit into the equation right now and yes they can be used properly in both a cutting and bulking situation and yes they SHOULD BE USED PRE-COMP but theres a proper way to use them in that situation