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Focused70
05-11-2004, 09:42 AM
Well, two questions really:

1. I'm thinking of cutting out the weight gain shake that I've been using and going along with just whey and dextrose. I'm not sure if I should do this -- my aim is to bulk up to about 180-ish and then cut to about 160/165. My question is, will there be less of a fat gain if I stick to whey shakes as opposed to mixing things up as I do now with both a whey-based shake and a casein/whey shake? The casein/whey shake is the weight gain one. Also keep in mind that I eat cleanly most of the time, so any protein not derived from a shake comes from whole foods and soy milk -- soy b/c I'm mildly lactose intolerant. Lactaid is not an option btw -- I get bloated from it.

2. As for whey shakes, how much whey and how much dextrose is a good proportion? From reading a bunch of journals and threads, it seems that 1 scoop of whey to 5 g dextrose is a good round number but I just wanted to find out ppl's opinions, just in case. What's a good brand or will generic whey and generic dextrose do for my purposes?

3. Stupid question: how do you measure taking 1 g of dextrose? Is there like a gram sized scoop or other method that I can use? Sorry for the silly question.

Thanks in advance.

Soba

geoffgarcia
05-11-2004, 09:50 AM
1)go with whey isolate over concentrate if your lactose intolerant.
there shouldn't be any diff in fat gain.

2)pre workout I go for about 40g carbs 30g protein, post workout I do about 70/45
supplement direct sells it by the 11pound tub I think
Protein factory sells it (and malto and hydrolyzed rice carbs) by the pound
and you can also get some at your local brewery store.
11 pounds last a LONG time since you probably are only gonna be having it post workout!, maybe 6-10 months

3)gram is a measure of weight, not volume...
so you could look at the nutritional chart and they should give you a volume/weight amount, like 1tbsp = 14g, or 1cup = 110g or something like that..

everything is different, like a cup of hydro 520 whey is like 50g and regular wpc is like 80g

you could weigh a cup and then weigh a cup + the dext and look at the diff!
hope that helps! (PS< I didn't have my coffee...I might be completely wrong)


according to this:
http://www.supplementdirect.com/store_client_files/store_product_files/Pure_Dextrose(091002115921).pdf
1/3 cup = 80g of dextrose

here:
http://proteinfactory.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=22_29&products_id=55

1/2 cup = 80g

JustinF
05-11-2004, 09:52 AM
On my tub og dextrose it says 1/3 cup =80g. I don't imagine it would be too much different between brands.

EdgarMex
05-11-2004, 10:21 AM
The dextrose bucket I got fro ww.supplementdirect.com said 1/3 cup = 80 grams

1/3 cup = 1 scoop (the scoop that came with my Optimum whey)

I usually put about half scoop on my shake along with 1 teaspoon of creatine (about 5 g) and 1.5 scoops of whey.

ryuage
05-11-2004, 11:01 AM
supplement directs labels are mislabeled the dextrose label is one and has been brought up to their attention but they have not fixed it as of yet.

EdgarMex
05-11-2004, 11:15 AM
Good thing the bucket is gone, it lasted over a year tho :p

Focused70
05-11-2004, 11:33 AM
I have a ways to go before the vat of Nitrotech is used up. What are some good brands out there? (I'm checking out the ones on the site you provided geoff.)

geoffgarcia
05-11-2004, 12:02 PM
http://www.blackstarlabs.com/?cPath=3
black star is the old proteincustomizer.com
5lbs = 8.95$

protein factory:
5lbs = 12.45

supplement direct
11lbs = 10$
50lbs = 40$

personally I'd go with the supplement direct 50lb tub and split it into 5 10lb buckets and sell them out on here, I'm sure people would buy some!

although I'm not sure how wbb/hulk feels about group buy type deals