Question from my journal

[Focused70]

Well, two questions really:

1. I'm thinking of cutting out the weight gain shake that I've been using and going along with just whey and dextrose. I'm not sure if I should do this -- my aim is to bulk up to about 180-ish and then cut to about 160/165. My question is, will there be less of a fat gain if I stick to whey shakes as opposed to mixing things up as I do now with both a whey-based shake and a casein/whey shake? The casein/whey shake is the weight gain one. Also keep in mind that I eat cleanly most of the time, so any protein not derived from a shake comes from whole foods and soy milk -- soy b/c I'm mildly lactose intolerant. Lactaid is not an option btw -- I get bloated from it.

2. As for whey shakes, how much whey and how much dextrose is a good proportion? From reading a bunch of journals and threads, it seems that 1 scoop of whey to 5 g dextrose is a good round number but I just wanted to find out ppl's opinions, just in case. What's a good brand or will generic whey and generic dextrose do for my purposes?

3. Stupid question: how do you measure taking 1 g of dextrose? Is there like a gram sized scoop or other method that I can use? Sorry for the silly question.

Thanks in advance.

Soba

[geoffgarcia]

1)go with whey isolate over concentrate if your lactose intolerant.
there shouldn't be any diff in fat gain.

2)pre workout I go for about 40g carbs 30g protein, post workout I do about 70/45
supplement direct sells it by the 11pound tub I think
Protein factory sells it (and malto and hydrolyzed rice carbs) by the pound
and you can also get some at your local brewery store.
11 pounds last a LONG time since you probably are only gonna be having it post workout!, maybe 6-10 months

3)gram is a measure of weight, not volume...
so you could look at the nutritional chart and they should give you a volume/weight amount, like 1tbsp = 14g, or 1cup = 110g or something like that..

everything is different, like a cup of hydro 520 whey is like 50g and regular wpc is like 80g

you could weigh a cup and then weigh a cup + the dext and look at the diff!
hope that helps! (PS< I didn't have my coffee...I might be completely wrong)


according to this:
http://www.supplementdirect.com/store_client_files/store_product_files/Pure_Dextrose(091002115921).pdf
1/3 cup = 80g of dextrose

here:
http://proteinfactory.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=22_29&products_id=55

1/2 cup = 80g

[JustinF]

On my tub og dextrose it says 1/3 cup =80g. I don't imagine it would be too much different between brands.

[EdgarMex]

The dextrose bucket I got fro ww.supplementdirect.com said 1/3 cup = 80 grams

1/3 cup = 1 scoop (the scoop that came with my Optimum whey)

I usually put about half scoop on my shake along with 1 teaspoon of creatine (about 5 g) and 1.5 scoops of whey.

[ryuage]

supplement directs labels are mislabeled the dextrose label is one and has been brought up to their attention but they have not fixed it as of yet.

[EdgarMex]

Good thing the bucket is gone, it lasted over a year tho :p

[Focused70]

I have a ways to go before the vat of Nitrotech is used up. What are some good brands out there? (I'm checking out the ones on the site you provided geoff.)

[geoffgarcia]

http://www.blackstarlabs.com/?cPath=3
black star is the old proteincustomizer.com
5lbs = 8.95$

protein factory:
5lbs = 12.45

supplement direct
11lbs = 10$
50lbs = 40$

personally I'd go with the supplement direct 50lb tub and split it into 5 10lb buckets and sell them out on here, I'm sure people would buy some!

although I'm not sure how wbb/hulk feels about group buy type deals