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Jack Benson
05-13-2004, 12:55 AM
I know it's newb question. And no, I didn't search this forum or the net.


Is it ok to eat lots of carbs at night if bulking?

SalahG
05-13-2004, 12:58 AM
I know it's newb question. And no, I didn't search this forum or the net.


Is it ok to eat lots of carbs at night if bulking?

Yes, just don't go overboard. Make sure it's just another regular meal, just like one of the 5-6 you eat during a given day.

Jack Benson
05-13-2004, 01:08 AM
what happens if you eat a lot at night? Is 40-50g of carbs too much at night?

What if you eat like 100g and then sleep?

SalahG
05-13-2004, 01:14 AM
what happens if you eat a lot at night? Is 40-50g of carbs too much at night?

What if you eat like 100g and then sleep?

Well, it'll be hard to go to sleep with 100g of carbs going in to your system half an hour before you hit the sack. A good night time meal while bulking would be a bowl of cottage cheese, some natty peanut butter, and a cup of whole milk. In the end it all really depends on your body and your daily caloric input and output. If your input is more than your output, with a sufficient amount of protein, you'll be fine.

Saint Patrick
05-13-2004, 02:03 AM
The theory is that the carbs will be converted to fat since they're not being used for energy.

ftotti10
05-13-2004, 02:39 AM
As long as you are staying within your daily allowance then there is no problem. I find it important to take carbs before I sleep as I usually train later in the evening. Remember that while you are asleep your body is fasting for eight hours. It is also recovering from your trainining session so it will need to carbs for its energy requirements and also to make sure that the protein is used towards muscle building and repair instead of enery utilization.

aka23
05-13-2004, 09:54 AM
The theory is that the carbs will be converted to fat since they're not being used for energy.

The theory is incorrect.

1. The body does not convert significant amounts of carbs to fat, excluding certain unusual situations (very low fat diet, very high fructose/sucrose consumption, medical conditions, ...). The study at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...2&dopt=Abstract (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=8675642&dopt=Abstract) found that when subjects ate a diet with a 50% caloric surplus of carbohydrates, less than 5g of fat per day was created via DNL (converting carbs to fat).

It is possible for the glyogen stores to fill up, but this requires very extreme conditions. Acheson did a carbohydrate overfeeding expeirment where the subjects started at ~3600 calories and increased progressively to ~5000 calories over the course of 7 days. Before a significant amount of carb to fat conversion occurred, glycogen storage increased to an average of 810 grams over the usual ~500 grams (bodybuilders have larger glygogen storage capacity than average persons). Acheson concluded that the body can handle periodic loads of 2000 calories of overfeeding carbs without significant conversion to fat and to maintain continued conversion of fat, one must continue to massively overfeed carbs, like they did in the study.

2. The body continues to use carbs/glycogen for energy (and recovery) while sleeping. After an overnight fast, liver glycogen levels may be nearly empty.

3. You may be slightly less insulin sensitive at night, but this will probably have little significant consequence. Your calorie balance will be the major factor determining your fat gain. Skipping carbs at night may interfere with recovery and do more harm than good.


I usually eat over 100g of carbs in my 10pm meal and over 60g of carbs in snacks between this meal and my breakfast. While following this diet, I have been able to maintain a low body fat when bulking.

Deathwish
05-13-2004, 10:11 AM
Well, it'll be hard to go to sleep with 100g of carbs going in to your system half an hour before you hit the sack.

I can sleep at anytime usually. I think I'm sleep deficient.

jagleaso
05-13-2004, 03:09 PM
The theory is incorrect.

1. The body does not convert significant amounts of carbs to fat, excluding certain unusual situations (very low fat diet, very high fructose/sucrose consumption, medical conditions, ...). The study at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...2&dopt=Abstract (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=8675642&dopt=Abstract) found that when subjects ate a diet with a 50% caloric surplus of carbohydrates, less than 5g of fat per day was created via DNL (converting carbs to fat).

It is possible for the glyogen stores to fill up, but this requires very extreme conditions. Acheson did a carbohydrate overfeeding expeirment where the subjects started at ~3600 calories and increased progressively to ~5000 calories over the course of 7 days. Before a significant amount of carb to fat conversion occurred, glycogen storage increased to an average of 810 grams over the usual ~500 grams (bodybuilders have larger glygogen storage capacity than average persons). Acheson concluded that the body can handle periodic loads of 2000 calories of overfeeding carbs without significant conversion to fat and to maintain continued conversion of fat, one must continue to massively overfeed carbs, like they did in the study.

2. The body continues to use carbs/glycogen for energy (and recovery) while sleeping. After an overnight fast, liver glycogen levels may be nearly empty.

3. You may be slightly less insulin sensitive at night, but this will probably have little significant consequence. Your calorie balance will be the major factor determining your fat gain. Skipping carbs at night may interfere with recovery and do more harm than good.


I usually eat over 100g of carbs in my 10pm meal and over 60g of carbs in snacks between this meal and my breakfast. While following this diet, I have been able to maintain a low body fat when bulking.

Good Post!!

Saint Patrick
05-13-2004, 03:29 PM
The theory is incorrect.

Like I said, theory.

I never said I believed in it.