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Jezmason
05-13-2004, 10:13 AM
Since i started bulking 2 1/2 months ago i have put on 13ibs. I am 6ft 2inch and already weighed 224ibs! I have been bulking cleanly and have been having 3800 cals a day(which is quite low for my size). Obviously i have gained a fair bit of fat. Is their any way 2 avoid gaining so much excess fat while on a bulk, or will i have to drop cals even more and bulk even more slowly. It probably has something to do with the fact i have an insanely low metabolism due to a hole in my heart and athma.

raniali
05-13-2004, 10:30 AM
drop cals to *slighty* above maintenance. bulk slower. otherwise, it is par for the course.

Jezmason
05-13-2004, 11:22 AM
Gah...ok then, thanks...

ryuage
05-13-2004, 11:48 AM
at 224 lbs If you are gaining weight on 3800 calories... dang I guess you do have an extremely slow metabolism

Jezmason
05-13-2004, 01:10 PM
Well ,it works out ive been gaining approx 1.6 ibs a week, but its not really visible, not like it is when i usually put weight on (from bein lazy lol). So i suppose thats a bonus

Severed Ties
05-13-2004, 01:17 PM
You could try macronutrient seperations (not eating carbs with fat) not everyone believes in it but I find it very effective for those with a slow metabolism. (like me)


ST

EdgarMex
05-13-2004, 01:38 PM
I've heard about that, but I've seen a lot of people dismiss and never thought of giving it a serious try. Is that just it (no carbs and fats together) or is there more to it?

Adam
05-13-2004, 03:14 PM
I agree with ST. Alot of people dismiss the theory but im cutting right now and losing only fat, no muscle loss. My cals are higher this way too. Im 152lbm and taking in 2900 cals a day. When i bulk im just going to keep the same diet and make a few modifications to it.(like more carbs in carb meals, more fat in fat meals)
And I too have a slow metabolism.

Jezmason
05-13-2004, 04:16 PM
ThanX people

Don Birnam
05-13-2004, 05:56 PM
Can one of you post a sample of your macronutrient-separation diets?

Vido
05-13-2004, 06:57 PM
No specific foods, but:

Meal 1: Protein + carbs
Meal 2: Protein + carbs
Pre-Workout: Protein + carbs
Post-Workout Shake: Protein + carbs
Post-Workout Meal: Choice of protein + carbs or protein + fat
Meal 6: Protein + Fat
Meal 7: Protein + Fat

This is very general and can easily be changed, but the idea is usually to have your carbs earlier in the day and around the workout, and then just stick to protein and fats before bed.

ryuage
05-13-2004, 06:59 PM
I tend to follow the same principles of not mixing carbs with fat... usually have 4 carb+protein meals with trace of fats then some veggies+protein+fat (usually some pb)

You could read more about it at www.johnberardi.com