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wleon
05-16-2004, 11:21 PM
OK so I been stuck in between 160 and 158 pounds and I can't seem to lose any more, I am eating 10 x my weight, I was loosing a little bit better before in the last 4 months I came down from 170 pounds.

I am getting so mad that I am thinking to take some 4 days and only eat 1000 calories to get the weight moving again but of course I am concerned that I will make it worst ....

I thought that if I starve myself before survival mode kicks in and slows my metabolism, I maybe able to pull it of... but I don't really know

At this point I am getting desperate that loosing some muscle won't botter me to much, I am 5.8 and my body fat is 16%

For the last two weeks I been doing morning 30 min of cardio mon to friday beside my MAX OT lifting routine

geoffgarcia
05-16-2004, 11:35 PM
10 times bw is below your bmr and very unhealthy, I advise you to get a book about how to do a proper diet

wleon
05-17-2004, 12:00 AM
geoffgarcia

any particular book that you would recommend ?

wleon
05-17-2004, 12:04 AM
geoffgarcia


in the few pictures that I have seen of yours, you certainly look ripped, in your case... I know is different for everyone, but what type of ratio (e.g. Bodyweigh X12) you use when cutting ?

do you do any cardio ?

Shao-LiN
05-17-2004, 12:14 AM
hehe...you always type radio for ratio.

wleon
05-17-2004, 01:05 AM
hehe...you always type radio for ratio.


you would think that by now I will remember to double check the spelling of that darn word ....:read:

TheGimp
05-17-2004, 07:05 AM
wleon you may want to consider eating at maintenance, or even above, for a few days, perhaps a week, in order to reset your metabolism. And after that you should probably be eating more than 10xbw, that seems a little low.

geoffgarcia
05-17-2004, 08:50 AM
wleon, finding the amount of calories you want to take in is not as simple as just multiplying your weight.
Its determined by how much lean body mass you have, how much fat, your age, height, activity level, etc...
for myself I consume 2800 on workout days and 2600 on days off (on a cut)
on a bulk I'm in the 3500 on non workout days and 4000 on workout days...

The key is getting enough fat and protein...
I have a good amount of info saved up in my journal, it might be a little technical though...but there are a lot of great places to start reading on the net here are some good links:
http://www.exrx.net/Nutrition.html
http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/magazine/fatlossdiet.htm
http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/magazine/howtoanalysizeyourself.htm
http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/magazine/howtoanalysizeyourself2.htm
http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/bodybuilding-supplements-guides/hardgainer-weight-gain-guide-1.htm
http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/bodybuilding-supplements-guides/diet-and-nutrition-guide-1.htm

wleon
05-17-2004, 09:01 AM
thank you

Shao-LiN
05-17-2004, 09:45 AM
I'd agree. Eat at maintenance caloric levels for maybe 2 weeks, and then diet again. You need to know that just multiplying your weight by an arbitrary number doesn't exactly narrow down your ideal cutting or bulking calories. It is merely a guideline/starting point from where you need to adjust. If your weight isn't going down at about a pound week, then lower the calories by 100-200 until you are.

When you do eat at maintenance, and I highly suggest it, drop the calories about 500 and assess your weight loss from there. In the end, it is how your body responds. No calculation can give you an exact measure of what your body needs, it can just give you an estimate.