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Focused
05-25-2004, 12:27 PM
mines really sucks..just looking for ways to expand

breakfast :oatmeal
meal 2 can of tuna
meal 3 can of tuna
meal 4 chicken breast/fish with vegatables

TheGimp
05-25-2004, 12:55 PM
I just started UD2.0 for the 2nd time yesterday. I'd kill for some sugar. So far today I've craved ginger biscuits, chocolate and for some unknown reason rum. I don't even eat these things on a bulk! Here's my diet from yesterday. And I'm a vegetarian so that's the reason for all the weird meat subtitutes :) 5' 5, just bulked up to 150 lbs, about 16% bf, hoping to get down to single digits.

Breakfast:
40g Pumpkin Seeds

Shake consisting of:
1 Scoop Micellar Casein
1 Tablespoon Brewer's Yeast
1 Teaspoon Flaxseed oil

Lunchbox:
Quorn Chicken Salad consisting of:
300g Quorn Pieces
40g Mayo

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40g Walnuts

100g Fresh Spinach

Dinner:
1 head (300g) of Broccoli
1 Pack Cauldron Food's Marinated Tofu

Pre Bed Shake:
2 Scoops Micellar Casein
2 Teaspoons Flax oil

Supplements:
Multivit
Vitamin C

Other:
1 Cup Green Tea with breakfast

Total: 2030 Calories 159g Protein 49g Carbs 31Pro/10Carb/59Fat

Dedicated
05-25-2004, 12:58 PM
2200-2500 calories 6 days a week
3500-4000 calories every Saturday

Fats = At Least 20%
Carbs = 35-45%
Protein = At least my bodyweight in gram

Current weight = 170.5lbs

I don't plan out what to eat, but I only eat certain things, turkey, chicken, a few good cereals, wheat bread, rice, tuna, tilapia, mackerel, beans, pasta(sometimes), etc etc....

I started at 185lbs so it's working.

geoffgarcia
05-25-2004, 01:05 PM
Dedicated, your going to have hormone problems if you keep your fats under 50g a day, I think 20% at 2500 calories is in that ballpark, so watchout!



2 Teaspoons Flax oil

you mean tablespoons right?
a tsp is only like 4g or something like that
tbsp is 14-15g

9AM
antiC protein shake +hemp, olive, udos (tbsp of each)

10-11AM
10 fish oil caps
1 serving of steel cut oats and 1 serving of rolled oats

1PM
2 chicken breasts, 2 fat free cheese sticks (good protein, no fat)
cup of mixed fruit/veggies (variety of color for phytos)

3PM
antiC protein shake
10 fish oil caps
multivit

6pm preworkout shake
7PM postworkout shake

9PM...dinner, usually chicken

12AM
antiC protein shake + oil + whatever else I need to eat to get to my daily calorie limit (9/10 days I'm under the limit so I guzzle milk, drink oil, eat fat free cheese, make eggs, etc.. to get to the #'s)

I use 2 protein shakes, the mid day+AM/PM anticatabolic shake is:
30% Aussie Caseinate
5% Super Bovine
20% Egg White
10% Soy Isolate
30% WPC
5% Flax Powder
+aminogen

pre/post workout is:
20% CFM Whey
20% Hydro 520
20% WPC
15% Dextrose
15% Maltodextrin
10% HRS
+aminogen

I'll check my breakdown tonight, but typical is:
110g fat (25,35,35 sat, mono, poly)
140g carbs
210g protein

Dedicated
05-25-2004, 01:18 PM
Dedicated, your going to have hormone problems if you keep up 20% fat at 2k calories, thats to low, bump it up to 70-80g at least...drop carbs or protein if you have to, fats are more important unless you don't care about testosterone levels...

Hmm well I guess I was wrong, I looked over my total average for last month and I averaged 72.74 grams of fat per day. But you say "at least", so I will make a huge effort to bring that number up. One thing about fats is that they are not as filling as carbs. I've been cutting without a thermogenic so it's difficult to curb the hunger pains, although I am starting a thermogenic this week so it should be easier to bring the fats up since I won't be as hungry all the time. Thanks for the advice, I will take it:)

If you are curious, my total averages for last month were.
Total Fat 72.74
Total Carbohydrate 218.16
Protein 184.3
Calories 2211.9

How high could I go with the fats? 100g?

geoffgarcia
05-25-2004, 01:24 PM
Ded, no prob, 2 years ago I cut on a <50g per day fat diet, I was weighing about 170ish, and after about a month my testosterone was completely shut off...I felt like a rag doll and couldn't do anything...it took about 2 months to get back to normal, I had no idea what was going on, so the next year, stoopid me did the same thing again, with the same results....I wanted to kick myself when I read what was happening!
so I'd hate to see that happen to anyone else! plus low fat is linked to depression and tons of other bad things

Dedicated
05-25-2004, 01:24 PM
I'll check my breakdown tonight, but typical is:
110g fat (25,35,35 sat, mono, poly)
140g carbs
210g protein
Woah that's prett low carb. How are your energy levels at that intake just curious?

iLUDEd
05-25-2004, 01:43 PM
I just started UD2.0 for the 2nd time yesterday. I'd kill for some sugar. So far today I've craved ginger biscuits, chocolate and for some unknown reason rum. I don't even eat these things on a bulk!

for the 1st 2 weeks i was on UD2, i had dreams of piggin out on chocolate, pizza and all sorts of high carb/fat foods, then id wake up feeling as though i had just eaten them and felt full, it was a trip!

my vote goes to UD2, its by far the best program/diet ive used so far.

geoffgarcia
05-25-2004, 01:55 PM
Woah that's prett low carb. How are your energy levels at that intake just curious?
my energy is fine, I only notice an energy problem when I go below 120 in carbs

Dedicated
05-25-2004, 01:59 PM
my energy is fine, I only notice an energy problem when I go below 120 in carbs
OK thanks.

Veritas
05-25-2004, 02:01 PM
8AM: 25mg E, 200mg C
Breakfast: 1 Protein Shake + 1/2 cup of oats + 1 Slice of Wheat Bread
Brunch: 1 Protein Bar
Lunch: 1 Protien Burger
2PM: 25mg E, 200mg C
Dinner: 1 Can of Tuna, 2 Slices of Wheat Bread, Assorted Fruits, 1 Protein Shake or maybe I'll go out to an Indian Restaruant :)

Harry
05-25-2004, 02:19 PM
Breakfast

Oatmeal
Egg Whites...how may shud i have..im lookin to have just over 30 g pro per meal
Banana
Cod liver oil tablet (this count as a fat)

Mid-morning

Apple
Protein Bar


Lunch

Bowl of pasta with tuna, with some green vegetables

Or

Chicken and bowl of rice, with some green vegetables

Spoonful of natural peanut butter, Fat?


Post-Workout

????

What type of food should I eat here?


Dinner

Steak/Turkey/Chicken, vegetables and a jacket potato.


Before Bed

Sorta confused here aswell. I was thinking a bowl of fruit such as pares, apple, banana, strawberries and melon. Its what I normally have as a replacement for a desert. Is this a bad or good thing?

Protein shake.



Im meant to be getting some fish oil, how often should I take spoonfuls of these and at what time. Ill work out the cals carbs/protein/fats for the above in a second but I just wanna check this looks kool, it is similar to the one I posted the other day but with some variations.

SquareHead
05-25-2004, 02:31 PM
8AM: 25mg E, 200mg C
Breakfast: 1 Protein Shake + 1/2 cup of oats + 1 Slice of Wheat Bread
Brunch: 1 Protein Bar
Lunch: 1 Protien Burger
2PM: 25mg E, 200mg C
Dinner: 1 Can of Tuna, 2 Slices of Wheat Bread, Assorted Fruits, 1 Protein Shake or maybe I'll go out to an Indian Restaruant :)

Dude 25 MG of extasy for breakfast?!?!?! woah and then again after lunch!!!! Your nutz

Sorry I realy have nothing productive to say.

TheGimp
05-25-2004, 02:37 PM
you mean tablespoons right?
a tsp is only like 4g or something like that
tbsp is 14-15g


Nope, teaspoons it is. I know I should probably be having more :rolleyes:

Veritas
05-25-2004, 04:34 PM
Dude 25 MG of extasy for breakfast?!?!?! woah and then again after lunch!!!! Your nutz

Sorry I realy have nothing productive to say.

It does wonders @ School & Work :) I've never been more productive and focused before in my life!

Well its actually Ephedrine, if you didn't know, but I think you're just kidding around :-)