Kazaa mp3s

[Beast]

Why are all of the new mp3s all scratched or messed up? More importantly, why do people share them if they know they're messed up? Is it new CD ripping protection or something?

[BigRic]

I always wondered that and the best I could come up with is it's a ploy by large distributors to stop downloading, I mean I get pretty mad when I download songs that are all ****ed up, I guess it helps detere downloading.

[-TIM-]

Yeah, I imagine it's something to do with companies putting up bad files to discourage downloading. And if you notice it's always the same exact noise. That's what makes me think it's an organized effort. Most new songs are no good. I've noticed there's a good handfull of older songs that you can download without a problem.

[Beast]

Hehe found the answer - Limewire. ;)

[AllUp]

Yeah, Kazaa is TeH SuCk

[Beast]

Eh, right after I installed Limewire I started getting popups. Also, my comp detected a virus last night. Don't get Limewire!

[Shao-LiN]

Stop using Kazaa. Download Shareaza.

[Beast]

Does that use the Kazaa network? If so, then why not just stick with Kazaa Lite?

Also, got my WoW beta key, yet? :p

[AllUp]

I still use BearShare on my illegit harddrive. My legit HD has no sharing proggies.

On my illegit, I have Kazaa Lite K+ as a backup, but dont use it for tunes. Better for "other media" and grabbing UFC movies.

[meltedtime]

A lot of those 'damaged' music files are placed on the internet to guage public interest in a song. I know this was done for Velvet Revolver. Their record company released damaged songs to see what sort of public interest there was. They have invested millions to promote this band and download activity gives them a good idea of public anticipation/interest.

melt

[HighExpectation]

soulseek and donate...full albums!!

[TBone4Eva]

Yeah, I imagine it's something to do with companies putting up bad files to discourage downloading. And if you notice it's always the same exact noise. That's what makes me think it's an organized effort. Most new songs are no good. I've noticed there's a good handfull of older songs that you can download without a problem.
They figured out how Kazaa identifies the files. If you open up and look at the multiple sources you will see that the files are all different sizes now. The RIAA has hired companies to use high bandwidth servers to host these corrupt files. So, you may have a listing that has like 84 sources some will be good, others are the corrupt files. The thing is since you download from multiple sources chances are that part of the file you pick up is from the corrupted source. That's why a song may play well for a few seconds and then you get that dreadful noise.

The older songs are beginning to be affected as well now. I tried to download an old Teddy Pendergrass song and got that noise too.

Now, I hope someone gets to read this before the mods delete this thread. :D

[AllUp]

<Has read it before the mods deleted the thread

[Shao-LiN]

Does that use the Kazaa network? If so, then why not just stick with Kazaa Lite?

Also, got my WoW beta key, yet? :p

If it was just Kazaa with a different name, I wouldn't suggest it, hehe.

[Slick 25]

I heard the ****ed up mp3's are a way for the government to detect whos "stealing music." Through those mp3's they can see who has that mp3 and all their information. Now that sounds foolish to me, but I'm not sure what to believe anymore. It seems we get those mp3's quite alot too.

[AllUp]

I refuse to buy a cd unless I can make a mp3 pre-release copy. If it sounds good, I buy it. If they scramble the song they lose a buyer. Also - If they have protection on the disc I'll say it doesn't work in my player and return it, as one is entitled to a personal backup. If I can't make MP3's from the CD it is crap and gets returned - as I don't have 80 CD drives or a cd changer to integrate into my huge few-hundred song winamp playlists

[BIG C]

Why don't you just download Shadow Bit Torent?

It is a lot better and the files are checked, so I have never downloaded anything bad or with viruses.

[Shao-LiN]

Shareaza pulls from bittorrent, gnutella1, gnutella2 and edonkey...It's a better client IMO.

[Beast]

Shaolin's recommendation is superb.

[Slick 25]

ShaoLin, did Shareaza slow down ur computer or have any bad effects on it?

[Shao-LiN]

Not really. Takes some configuring to get it working correctly for people behind firewalls, but they have forums with lots of posts about it.

[emjlr3]

i suggest overnet...it is edonkey reincarnated...good stuff on there...that and DC++ or bit torrent.....at myschool we put up a DC hub and we could all dl off each otehr at over 1mb/s .....i had access to every song and movie ever made....good ish!! :)

[TheGimp]

IMO eMule is a better improvement on eDonkey than Overnet. I use it for most things but it doesn't seem to be too hot for mp3s.



Shareaza pulls from bittorrent, gnutella1, gnutella2 and edonkey...It's a better client IMO.
Does this mean it allows searching of BitTorrent? How does it achieve this? Definitely going to have to give this one a look.

[Shao-LiN]

It's a P2P client, basically. If you run a search for something and someone online has the torrent, it will show up in the search window. You download the torrent executable, open it, then it'll start downloading from anyone with the file, be it bittorrent user, shareaza, gnutella, or edonkey. So it'll pull from many more sources giving you faster download rates.

[Beast]

Yep, it's great!

[ChrisH]

All they (RIAA and them lot) have to do is create a valid mp3 file with the exact same file size as the real song. Then they start sharing them through kazaa. For a computer program, its hard to distinguish between random noise and music, so theres no real way round it. The problem is that when people download the corrupt music files, most can't be bothered to delete, so they just make it worse by passing the bad segments on.

Use another client.

[TheGimp]

For a computer program, its hard to distinguish between random noise and music.

Decent P2P clients will split the file into chunks and hash them. Assuming you get the hashes for the valid file in the first place you'll end up with it.

[TBone4Eva]

Right. The RIAA knows how the hash system works in Kazaa. Kazza only hashes the first few parts of the file, not the whole file, which makes it easy to insert corrupt copies onto the network. Look up a popular song and expand one of the lists. You will see that most of the files no longer have the same size. You will see some that have huge amounts of bandwidth. Most of those are the corrupt files. Unless you download from a single source, the chances are you will download at least part of the corrupted files out there. I had one song that played fine up until the last 5 seconds of the song.

Anyway, as it has been said already, there are better alternatives out there.

[biggimp]

speaking of annoying noises, i am tired of hearing freaking funkmaster flex on every song. if i wanted to hear some dumbass introduce the song id turn on the radio. its even worse when they talk through the whole song.

[Shao-LiN]

Hehe...d/l a different song. Those are usually off of his mix tapes.