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Growth
07-15-2004, 03:15 PM
Ive been looking at a few other peoples cutting diets, particulary those on low/no carb diets like myself. Ive got the feeling im not eating enough, but the thing is im generaly losing steady weight and increasing strength. Heres what i eat;

Mon-Fri

730am - 1 piece fruit / vegetable
830am - 1 glass water
930am - 1 piece fruit / vegetable
1030am - 1 glass water
1130am - 1 piece fruit / vegetable
130pm - 210g salmon, 1 glasss water
300pm - workout
630pm - 200-300g of meat (chicken, beef, fish, etc)
- and a good portion of vegetables, glass of water.

Sat & Sun

Generally sat and sun are both 'cheat days', not neccassarily eating bad food, just alot more, cereal for breakfast, meal for lunch, meal for dinner, snack in between etc

So is it okay that i only eat this much? The Mon-Fri calories would be at best around 600-800. My weight loss although fairly steady is quite low only around 0.25 - 0.5 kg a week. Do you think if i increased calories the weight would come off quicker?

Batman
07-15-2004, 03:47 PM
If you Increase the calories, the weight will come off slower, depending on how much you add... Slower is usually better in the sense that you won't lose as much muscle.

geoffgarcia
07-15-2004, 03:51 PM
how long have you been on this diet for?

_-_v_-_
07-15-2004, 03:54 PM
Good god.

600-800 calories?

Are you mad?

Strider2
07-15-2004, 03:59 PM
Wow, thats insane.

Growth
07-15-2004, 04:09 PM
Been on this diet for around 1 month, before that i was eating more calories but weight loss stopped, the new diet has got things moving again. My abs are the most visible theyve ever been and my strength has surpassed my 198 pound bulk (currently 169 pounds)

raniali
07-15-2004, 04:10 PM
you are essentially starving yourself. your body doesn't like to be starved. in retaliation, your body will shut down and slow many metabolic processes. this will make it virtually impossible to lose weight AND look good AND be healthy. you MUST eat more. not only will you feel better, but your body will function better. what you are doing is seriously unhealthy -- think anorexia.

_-_v_-_
07-15-2004, 04:15 PM
Agreed.

You couldn't possibly be doing yourself greater harm.

Eat.

Vido
07-15-2004, 05:10 PM
A piece of fruit/vegetable is not a meal.

Scott S
07-15-2004, 05:39 PM
730am - 1 piece fruit / vegetable
830am - 1 glass water
930am - 1 piece fruit / vegetable
1030am - 1 glass water
1130am - 1 piece fruit / vegetable

So that's... maybe 5 grams of protein over 18 hours? Smarrrrt. :rolleyes:

Growth
07-15-2004, 05:40 PM
Could someone give an example of a more appropriate diet. Also, what are your thoughts on the fact that wieght is decreasing at an acceptable rate, i have no visible muscle loss, infact i measured things like arm size, waist size, chest etc at the end of my bulk and basically arms, chest have stayed that same, waist has decreased, and legs increased. My strength has improved. I dont feel unwell or anything. Are you sure its neccassary to eat more. Dont mean to sound ungrateful for your opinions tho. Cheers :)

AstronautJones
07-15-2004, 05:47 PM
It is absolutely mandatory. Unless of course, you're like 6 years old.

Jezmason
07-15-2004, 05:54 PM
Jesus christ man, thats insane!

kozen
07-15-2004, 06:13 PM
how is he increasing his strenght on such a low calorie diet

kozen
07-15-2004, 06:16 PM
Another concern is that your only drinking 4 glasses of water a day. I drink more then 4 glasses of water in one session at the gym

Jasonl
07-15-2004, 06:53 PM
Another concern is that your only drinking 4 glasses of water a day. I drink more then 4 glasses of water in one session at the gym
Well if those "glasses" were actually litres, then he's be ok.

Growth
07-15-2004, 09:42 PM
Yeah i drink at the gym almost between every set. Im also wondering how im able to increase strength, everyone told me you cant when cutting, but ive been acting as if im not on a cut, adding small increments each time i go, taking long rests between sets etc, and my strength hasnt gone. Of course i feel thrashed after the gym but thats about it.

When you look on the food label, there are two energy ratings right?, on is KJ and the other is calories, maybe im reading the wrong one. Im reading the on thats calories, its about 4 times less than the KJ

It doesnt seem to be that much of a low food diet anyway. When i was at school al i ate was breakfast, lunch, and tea. This is almost the same.

_-_v_-_
07-15-2004, 09:55 PM
Let's do the math, here, shall we?

Let's assume you eat no vegetables, only fruits. Let's also assume you eat large fruits. Hell, let's assume you eat beef rather than chicken, turkey, or tuna.

One large apple: 80 calories

Let's assume you eat three of them over the day: 240 calories.

210g salmon: Roughly 400 calories, I'd estimate.

200-300g meat: 400-600 calories.

At a MAXIMUM, you are getting perhaps 1200 calories, which is woefully insufficient.

Now let's do a more reasonable calculation:

Broccoli: 20 calories
Orange:50 calories
Broccoli: 20 calories
210g salmon: 400 calories
200-300g chicken: 300 calories

Wow. All of 800 calories.

Isaac Wilkins
07-15-2004, 10:03 PM
Heh, when the big V says you're eating too little, you're eating DAMN little.

Why all the fruit on a "low carb" diet? Not that I think you should exclude it, but bring up the rest of your calories.

You should be trying to get a significant protein source in each meal. Milk, eggs, salmon, tuna, meat, whatever. Each meal.

Look around on here some more, find out what people are doing for diets. We've gone through a lot, and you're in the right place.

_-_v_-_
07-15-2004, 10:13 PM
Heh, when the big V says you're eating too little, you're eating DAMN little.

LOL. I was waiting for the irony to sink in :)

CiteCollegiale
07-15-2004, 10:40 PM
eat a dozen hard boiled eggs each breakfast

emjlr3
07-16-2004, 08:41 AM
yea i dont understnad how someone could even live off that....how many calories do you burn a day just being alive....then that added to lifting....your like eating much less then you use...starving every bit of you....hrrmmmmm

grneyes34
07-16-2004, 09:15 AM
Yea, WAY to low in calories.....I would've starved to death on the first day!!!!

ryuage
07-16-2004, 10:35 AM
he never mentioned his weight, how do you know he doesn't weigh a buck? what are your stats.

Vido
07-16-2004, 11:03 AM
eat a dozen hard boiled eggs each breakfast

What kind of advice is this?

TBone4Eva
07-16-2004, 11:17 AM
Hmm, is it possible that he is still gaining strength due to his CNS getting more efficient with the lifts? How long have you been training Growth? With that small amount of calories you have to be losing some serious LBM unless you are a genetic freak.

Growth
07-17-2004, 09:41 PM
Last time i weighed in i was 169 pounds. Ive been lifting almost 3 years. Like i said in the previous post i havent lost any significant amount of LBM but of corse there would be some, measurements of most limbs would indicate no loss, and my legs have increased alot. I only wieght 169 but pushed out 715 pounds for 8 reps on the leg press last time i went gymn. Legs seem to be an amazing muscle, i add 10 pounds each heavy session without fail and the legs just keep taking it.

I think the end result of this thread is that im going to change the breakfast to a meal that has 40 odd grams of protien in it, and a handful of complex carbs. Thats all, just because results on this diet have been so good so far that it must only need a small amount of tweeking.

Thanks all for adivise.

David
07-17-2004, 10:31 PM
eat a dozen hard boiled eggs each breakfast


What kind of advice is this?

That's the same thing I was thinking. There's a lot of interesting characters on here, that's for sure.

Maki Riddington
07-17-2004, 11:03 PM
So that's... maybe 5 grams of protein over 18 hours? Smarrrrt. :rolleyes:

*** I fail to see how this post is helping him? The last thing this guy needs is smart as s replies. He's asking for help.

Maki Riddington
07-17-2004, 11:04 PM
eat a dozen hard boiled eggs each breakfast

*** As Vido has said, what will this achieve?