Need help making a decision about cycle...

[adrenalinaddict]

Ive been off of my first cycle for three weeks now. I was using Tren for about 6 weeks...and Test for about 5 weeks. My cycle got cut short to do some circumstances. I was supposed to finish out two more weeks of tren and 5 more of test, but decided to cut it short.

Gains were ok. I was up about 15-18lbs. However 12 of that I saw in the first few weeks of tren, and then kinda hit a plateau and was real slow gaining after that. So Im holding steady right now at about 10 lbs heavier then when I started, all muscle gain, still at the same bodyfat.

I want to start a nice test/deca or test/eq bulk towards end of summer(something to that effect, dont have it all worked out yet) however since summer is still here and I have some tren left, I was thinking of maybe running a quick cutter with just tren alone for a few weeks. Just a real short, maybe 3 week cut on tren only to get a little more shredded, and then hold off on the bulk until like September once the sun starts to go.

The only thing is, this would put me at three cycles in a pretty short amount of time. I will be doing time off=time on...but still just wondering what you guys think about running three cycles so close together. I honestly didnt get the gains I wanted (Im happy, just was looking for a few more lbs) since I cut my cycle short. so a nice three week cutter to get more shredded and maybe put on a little more muscle would be nice.

What's your guy's opinions?

[dirtyvest]

TBH I'm not a fan of short cycles, even less so if you're looking to cut a little. Get some clen and ECA going for a few weeks and that would be fine IMO, save the tren for a rainy day. I know tren is fat acting and MAY work for a short cycle, but I can think of better ways to use it.

Dirty

[chris6969]

why did you cut your cycle short? just curious? was it b/c of negative sides or anything?

A lot of people say time on = time off.... ie: 12 week cyle on, take 12 weeks off. Short cycles are generally not a good idea even if you're frontlloading, just b/c you really make your best gains after a few weeks in to your cycle. It just takes a while for your body to kick in to gear. No matter how much you front load.

Now Tren works pretty fast (what I hear - no experience with it yet). However I do plan on doing a 4-8 week cycle of it in the near future. I'll have enough for 8 weeks, but will cut it shorter if I get the desired results fast enough or if I have too many negative sides.

I think a good (test) cycle plan would be like 10 weeks on, about 6 weeks off, then 12 weeks on, then 12+ weeks off. 2 long cycles in a row would give you great results. And taking a slightly shorter "off" between them lets you keep all the gains from the 1st cycle and just add to it with the 2nd.

Thats what I did on my last test cycle and had great results especially on the 2nd portion of it.

[restless]

I think a good (test) cycle plan would be like 10 weeks on, about 6 weeks off, then 12 weeks on, then 12+ weeks off. 2 long cycles in a row would give you great results. And taking a slightly shorter "off" between them lets you keep all the gains from the 1st cycle and just add to it with the 2nd.



Why not doing a 24 week cycle then? 6 weeks will not be enough for complete HPTA recovery so why come off?

[tony touch]

WAIT so u gained 15-18 lbs and u call that "ok" gains? wow youve got high expectations huh?

[CB]

Just save the tren for the end of your next bulking cycle while you wait for the longer injectable to taper out.

[adrenalinaddict]

WAIT so u gained 15-18 lbs and u call that "ok" gains? wow youve got high expectations huh?

Lol...No, I am happy with the gains. I was just looking to put on a little more weight. I love the way the tren worked...truly did change my body, but I guess I was expecting a little more in the weight department. Its nothing that went wrong, just wanted a little more. I was expecting to be on for another 5 weeks, and was just hoping for a few more lbs...but still a great gain.

I lost about 5 lbs almost immediately of what Im assuming was water weight from the test. (My abs started showing again). and so that put me up about 10 lbs in muscle. I had to cut the cycle short unfortunately due to money. I hit a tough spot, and needed to make some quick cash, so had to sell my last bottle of test and cut it short.

The only reason I figured a nice short cycle of tren would be nice was because thats when I saw my best gains. I was on tren by itself for two weeks and man it was a quick change. I put on 10 lbs real quick. However I do like the idea of using it to taper off some longer injectables later. And would probably help to harden up at the end of a bulk stack.

[chris6969]

10lbs in 2 weeks tren alone? nice

how much were you using?

Did you break out at all on the tren only? hairloss? etc? any negative sides?

I'm asking all these questions, b/c I'm getting ready for a tren only cycle for cutting. I was hoping to add 10lbs of muscle and lose 10lbs of fat so I would come out a lot leaner at about the same weight.

[adrenalinaddict]

Ya, Id say 10 lbs in about 2-3 weeks. It was quick. I really enjoyed it. But then I kinda hit a plateau and it was a lot slower gains from there on. I started on 50mg ED. When I started I was using a lab bottle and then I switched to homebrew. This may have contributed to the slower gains. Not sure.

Towards the end, I upped the dosage to about 75 MG ED and I started noticing some hair loss. But I also dyed my hair black at the same time I upped the dosage, so I think I just started noticing a lot more. not sure how much the tren was contributing. As far as acne, I didnt see any acne untill the end of the cycle, and I think that was from the test to be honest. I saw no acne untill the bloat from the test started to kick in. I got worse acne once I came off though. Im still dealing with it now. None on face, just on shoulders, chest, and back. Its not horrible, I just wash it a lot, and tan. But its definitely bearable.

As far as any other sides, I found it a little hard to sleep at night if I took a shot late in the day, increased BP (supplemented with Hawthorn Berry, and took milk thistle too...plus lots of water). No unbearable aggression, I actually was in a better mood normally. My friends said they thought I was calmer on then off, lol. (the only thing was I would get roadrage like a mother every once in a while, but thats normal for me) The test contributed to my great moods Im sure, (plus the 10 lbs of muscle helped). other then that, thats all I can think of. I liked it, have fun with the shots, lol.

[Hatred]

I expected to get huge overnight......when I first started cycling I gained like 9lbs in a week and another 8 in the next two and so on ..blah bla...

[Brawl]

Chris6969 , a couple years ago I ran tren with some test and T-3 . I watched my diet and ran the whole time and I looked awesome . There wasnt much water weight from the test it worked perfect . Tren is the only thing I've done that decreases my sex drive (and thats hard to do . )

[adrenalinaddict]

I expected to get huge overnight......when I first started cycling I gained like 9lbs in a week and another 8 in the next two and so on ..blah bla...

ok...didnt know I was conveying that message. my expectations were only a little higher then what I gained. I was just hoping to keep about 15 lbs. I thought that was a pretty decent number, didnt think that was too high of a goal. I wasnt expecting to get huge overnight, in fact the fact that I gained the 10 lbs so quickly really shocked me. I was expecting to run a cycle that was almost double the time I did, and only wanted about 5 more lbs.

Does that really sound so bad to you? And I said 10 lbs in 2-3 weeks. Is that so unrealistic? I never said 9 in a week and 8 another week. goddamn