test/tren/t3

[etbaseball3b]

test tren and t3....does that make up a good cutting cycle while also gaining some lean mass?

[tony touch]

why do u need t3 bro?

[etbaseball3b]

a freind of mine is on it....he is doing test and t3, he has lost 10 lbs in 2 weeks....while getting stronger....i have researched it a whole hell of alot, and i feel confident that i know enough about it that i can do it safely....its not like im jumping right into it JUST because a freind of mine is doing it and its working

[OptimumGrowth]

"Only HARDCORE people use T3"

LOL

[tony touch]

1. why would u want to lose 10 lbs in 2 weeks? u realize you're not losing 10 lbs of fat in 2 weeks with t3, i jus dont see it happening.

2. you're ****ing with a delicate mechanism. it is one thing to have a ****ed up hpta, which i feel can eventually rebound under certain therapy but its a total other thing to mess with ur thyroid. having a messed up thyroid can b disastrous. My mother has a messed up thyroid and she has to be on medication for the rest of her life....sound appetizing?

3. you can research all you want but once you start messing with your thyroid or using insulin....you better be damn sure you know EXACTLY what you're doing. For some reason, i just dont feel like you know EXACTLY what you're doing.

4. you're playing with fire.


want a good cutting cycle? you're a baseball player, correct?

----prop/tren 8 weeks 100mg EOD of each (or a bit less depending on your experience which im not sure of)

----clen or eca ran 2 weeks on 2 weeks off

----high protein/low to moderate carbs/moderate fats

[etbaseball3b]

thanks for the advise tony....i already have the enthanate so coudl i just use that instead of the prop

[WillKuenzel]

Cutting is all about your diet. You can cut harder and longer while on anabolics but you first have to know how to cut. Unless you are getting competition ready, whatever you want to do can be accomplished with a proper diet and a little bit of test if you so desire. First learn how to cut before you start ****ing with your thyroid.

[etbaseball3b]

god damn....im ask one god damn question and everyone is flipping out about t3....and assuming that i know jack **** about steroids...supplements...and cutting....and for you homeyeild think if you knew that i went from 230 lbs at 5' 8'....of all fat......down to 160 lbs...and back up to 200 lbs of mosly muscle......you wouldn't automatically assume that i know jack **** about dieting...because i probably know more about dieting than you do....i can never get a straight answer on this damn forum....anytime i ask something about a cutting cycle i get the reply....."it all about your diet".......WELL NO ****ING ****!!!!

[Brawl]

estbaseball3b hahaha calm down we all know now you can diet and lift so ... run the tren and t3 with the enthanate . That was a cycle I posted about the other day great results . Wean off the t3 slowly and dont stay on longer than 4 or 5 weeks at a time .

They probably saw your 23 posts and thought you were a 23 post stud .

[WillKuenzel]

....anytime i ask something about a cutting cycle i get the reply....."it all about your diet".......WELL NO ****ING ****!!!!
Then what do you need all that other **** for if you know so much? I've done my fair share of cutting and know a good bit. I'm just politely suggesting that you try it without the T3. The tren and enth would be plenty.

If you are having so many problems getting an answer you are more than welcome to try to get your answers somewhere else.

[OptimumGrowth]

HEY HEY HEY HEY..... i think et and homeyeild need some hugs, So everyone give these two a big WBB group hug.

[WillKuenzel]

LOL, anybody hugs me and they can have a complimentary overnight stay via the emergency room. :p

[Maki Riddington]

My personal opinion is that when you're cutting, one drug is enough, if you want to put some muscle on then one drug is still enough. It all dpends on how advanced you are and how far past your set point you are. In other words, if you're 250 at 12% and want to get down to 240 at 6%, taking some Test alone may not do the job.

Anyways, to answer your question, I'd suggest a Test only cycle with some Liquidex and maybe some Clen or an EC stack.

[etbaseball3b]

i apologize for the little outburst earlier.....choosing a cycle can be frustrating...at least for me it can be, and i already have a bad temper so....forive me for that.............anyway, ill just try the tren and enth w/ a low carb low fat and no sugar diet....ill be using arimidex throughout the entire cycle....ill be doing the enth at 500mg a week (10 weeks)....and tren at 75mg EOD(7 weeks)...in the middle around week 4 i may throw in the t3 (im getting it for free) and if not then ill do clen for 2 weeks...then ECA for 2 weeks....back and forth....how does that cycle sound?

[WillKuenzel]

It does sound like you've done your research. If the T3 is free then consider it for later. Realize we're not bashing you but just trying to keep ya safe, man.

If you are doing a low carb diet, you'll have to increase your fats a bit. If that's the case, just make sure that they come from the healthy sources like fish and olive oil. You'll have to balance out the calories somehow.

Best of luck and keep us updated as to your progress.

[Brawl]

I stand corrected ... of you already have a temper then stay away from the tren .

[OptimumGrowth]

:bang: <<< etbaseball

[chris6969]

I think tren + test would be good enough for cycling too. Thyroid drugs like T3 should only be taken for a good reason (like body building or modeling being your profession and the difference in cuts could mean big $$$ for you)

From what I've heard... and soon to find out.... Tren will help you up your metabolism enough for some serious definition.

[etbaseball3b]

well right now thats what im running tren and test...i started the test today and i will start the tren on wednsday or thursday when it comes in...is 75mg EOD enough for good results.....and also how should i cycle the injection spots??

[CB]

Delts, Glutes, and Quads. That's six different sites right there. If doing EOD then you only hit each place once every 1.5-2 weeks.

[benfsu03]

My personal opinion is that when you're cutting, one drug is enough, if you want to put some muscle on then one drug is still enough. It all dpends on how advanced you are and how far past your set point you are. In other words, if you're 250 at 12% and want to get down to 240 at 6%, taking some Test alone may not do the job.

Anyways, to answer your question, I'd suggest a Test only cycle with some Liquidex and maybe some Clen or an EC stack.

ive been researching a cutting cycle and im trying to get from 200 @18%bf to about 190 @12%bf. would the tren and enth cycle be a good choice?

[tony touch]

tren, low carb diet and lots of cardio and hard liftin

[Brawl]

benfsu03 if you are cutting using those two you might be 200 at 12% body fat .

The thing for all to remember is DIET 1st , drugs second .

I like tren ,enth , t-3 ... you get bigger and lose fat .

[etbaseball3b]

brawl....what were your gains on the cycle...strength and weight gains....and also how much body fat did you lose

[Brawl]

I went from a heavy 225 down to about a solid 205 . I dont do bodyfat measure I go by the mirror . My strength went up considerably . I would love to have gone longer but I usually go hard for about 10 to 12 weeks then take about 3 months off . I'm lazy .

I looked great , I was scoring pelt everywhere I went . That is the true test hahahaha .

[etbaseball3b]

i may not even do the t-3...i think i might see what i can do without it....i just started the tren yesterday...(my shoulder isn't sore even the least bit for some reason)....and i have d-bol and t-3 sitting right in front of me....WHICH ONE SHOULD I TAKE......i've heard d-bol will interfere w/ your fat loss even while dieting

[etbaseball3b]

also brawl.....how did you cycle the t-3...ive researched various ways to take it....and you obviously had great results w/ it....so how did you cycle it...i have 70 tabs right now but i can get more if needed in a day...and what if i was to throw in d-bol w/ the t-3....

did you use any anti-E's on your cycle?...and how was your pct

sorry for all the questions lol

[Brawl]

No sweat . Some guys will tell you not to listen to me but I have no problems ever with bitch tits , I also never have taken a post drug . I dont seem to have the problems some guys have with those two .

I do have problems with the t-3 and coming off . went up slow 1/2 tab in morning and at night then after a few days I went up to 2 tabs then 3 and topped out at 4 . Mt problem was coming off . I came of without weening off it very much . Go real slow . While on the t-3 my junk food appetite skyrocketed so try to not give in to it .

I wouldnt take the d-bol with the other stuff you are doing . Ohh try not to drink too much with that tren . It kills me when I'm sucking down beer and taking it . I feel like someone hit me with a baseball bat in the kidneys . No beer means an unhappy Brawl haha .

[tony touch]

bro there is no alcohol period while on tren.

i dont use anti-es either and never had a problem but i always make sure to do proper pct....its a must

[Brawl]

I dont have much opf a temper but the tren does make me a little angry now and then . Tony is right ... no beer when on tren except for me . I feel like superman on tren , all hard and strong so the bar is a great place to go to show the strippers how you feel . Hence ... beer is good haha .

[etbaseball3b]

thanks for the info brawl....i don't drink anyway so i won't have to worry about that...i just hate alchohol lol...so how would this look for a cycle of t-3.....1111222233334444333322221111 (each seperate number is a seperate day and it is the number of tabs taken that day).....or should i increase the dosage every 4'th day instead of every 5th?.....i also think that i may do some arimidex just incase the 500mg of test will flare my tits up lol.....and im def. doing PCT w/ clomid...i want to make sure i keep most of my gains.....and a freind of mine told me to take milk thistle w/ the t-3...should i do that?

will i gain the fat back that i lose after i go off the t-3....

and should i take the dbol AFTER my t-3 cycle is over because by then i will still have 6 weeks of my cycle left...and i could do the d-bol for the last 4 weeks of it or something....or just save it for the next cycle?

[Brawl]

That looks pretty close to what I would do You probably could increase on the fourth and even add an extra day when coming down .

No on the d-bol because after I was off the t-3 for about 3 -4 weeks I'd get back on and finish your cycle off with it for another 4 weeks .

Yes you will put weight back on just like normal so watch the grub .

T-3 works best with anabolics .

Get some other opinions tho bro I'm not an expert . I've done it twice and others might know more . Thats what I did and it was good .

[etbaseball3b]

well im going to start the t-3 tomorrow....so any advice would be helpful before i start...or while i am on it...im going to start with half pill in the morning...and half at night....and i will stay like that for 3 days..and on the 4th increase it....so it will look like this...111222333444...and then on the way down i will decrease it every 5th day....so the whole cycle will look like this...111222333444333322221111

[etbaseball3b]

and i mean it is possible to keep the fat off that you burn off while your on t-3 correct?

[CB]

If you keep your diet in check and do cardio, I don't see why you couldn't stay lean after coming off the t3. The drugs will get you there, but maintaining it will be the challenge.